All good. Im chris cuomo. We need to fight through as much of the uncertainty as we can. I know youre asking how did this go from 15 days to hearing about plans for more than 18 months . And yes, we are now hearing that the young arent in the clear. We are seeing cases pop up abroad and here too and some of them are bad cases. What changed . Heres the good news. We have the nations top coronavirus medic, dr. Fauci is here tonight. Okay . Hes a trusted source for information. Hes always been straight with me. Ive known him a long time. We also have obama Homeland Security chief jeh johnson here. Another trusted source. What does he say about what we can do to build capacity . How big a problem are we facing . He knows. And Dallas Mavericks owner and business titan mark cuban weighing in to help us understand whats going on in the markets and what he wants you to know about what the right and wrong fixes are Going Forward. Listen, for all the uncertainty, we know we have tough days ahead. Lets get the information. Lets get together and lets get after it. I know the uncertainty is driving you nuts. How many of us are going to get it . How long is it going to last . How many may we lose from this . We dont know. But we do know that there are things that we can do. You and i, you and me, the government. That will help us win this war, and thats what it is. Fair question. Are they happening fast enough . Testing kits. Masks. Ke ventilators, beds, medical staff scrambling for them. The president today signed the relief bill. And invoked the defense production act. Thats from the 50s, wartime. It allows for government to ramp up production and address shortages. But then he said in a tweet not long after he may not be exercising those powers just yet. Only in a worst case scenario. Well, whats worse than knowing what we do right now . Is that we dont have what we need to fight this. Cnn obtained a contingency plan from the trump administration. It could include multiple waves of illness. 15 days, 18 months. Which is it . Again, we are lucky to have dr. Anthony fauci back with us, director of the National Institute of allergy and infectious diseases. I dont know where youre getting the energy from, but thank you for being with us tonight. Its an important night. Good to be with you, chris. Doctor, the idea of we understand that you cant know definitively how long anything takes here. But its jarring to hear the president or anybody say its not about politics. This is going to be a couple weeks and then well see. Maybe july. And then hear about a plan for 18 months. What can you tell the American People . Well, all of that is not incompatible with each of the things that was said. As i told you before, chris, when you have an outbreak like this, if you look historically and what has happened more recently in china, and in south korea, and now its going on in a very dramatic way in europe, you have the outbreak goes like this and then it spares up like this, and then after a while it goes down. If its left to its own devices, youll get the maximum peak, a lot of suffering, a lot of illness, a lot of death. What our responsibility is and what we are doing very, very vigorously right now is to put into play the kinds of things that would blunt that curve. Ive said that many, many times. But when you blunt the curve by modifying society, particularly with the rather dramatic physical separations which people call social distancing, you can blunt it, but it is unlikely that you are going to make it completely disappear. If were lucky, it will happen. But what more likely would happen is that we do this, go down, and if its still around, wed have to deal with it next season. Thats the challenging issue. The good news about that, that will give us time to test and prove whether drugs are safe and effective, and as ive told you many times, the vaccine whose trial we started just a couple days ago in a year to a year and a half we should know whether were ready to go. It is not untrue that in 18 months or next season we may see another flair, but wed be much better prepared than we are right now. Right, and there are a lot of variables at play. I get it. I wanted to hear it from you. Hearing it from politicians is one thing. Hearing it from now is something else. Ill hear you and let the audience decide. Quickly, is it true that you guys are starting to get a better feel for some drugs you may may be able to help treat some of the worse cases . Yes. The answer to that is yes. When you say a better feel. But no definitive proof yet, chris. And thats important. Whether anecdotal reports that there are a number of drugs that are already out there that were repurposes. Drugs used for other diseases that are reported the fda is totally on board with this now. I was on the phone like a half an hour ago. If you have a good basis to try it, youll be able to try it . I had been hearing theres snags and they were afraid of what drugs youd expose people to, but if theyre in a life or death situation, you might at well throw everything at it. Yeah, but chris, if you do it in a protocol theres a balance between just throwing the drug out there which is not a good idea. But you dont want to make it unavailable to people. What you do is you do a bit of a compromise. You do it under the auspices of a protocol. So you can make it very heavily available that at the same time youre learning something. Youre learning how safe it is. And does it really work. We need to do both. We need to make it available at the same time as we learn whether or not it really works and whether its safe. Now, young people. Theyve been nonchalant about some of this, some of them. Lets not generalize. But young people have been given the impression that if i get this, im going to be okay. So some of the isolation seems overblown for them. Lets leave it for the old folks. Now were hearing about cases of young people getting hit hard abroad and here at home, being in extreme distress with cases. What changed . Well, nothing has changed except we learned more and more. Again, remember, chris, a couple times ago when i was on your show, i told you this is a work in motion. Its evolving. Every day we learn more and more. And when you see reports from other countries and now even in our own country you realize there are things you didnt fully appreciate, but getting back to young people, there are two reasons why young people need to take this very seriously. One, you yourself can be in harms way. I mean, obviously most of the difficulties are in people who are older and or who have underlying conditions. And many of the young people who have actually gotten into trouble did have underlying conditions. But youre not out of danger. But even as important is that you have a responsibility, a society responsibility, to protect the vulnerable. And you do that, interestingly, by not letting yourself get infected, because you need to make sure that you dont inadvertently pass on the infection to someone who would not fair as well as you fair because youre young and healthy. So theres a two pillar. Yourself and your responsibility to society. A couple more quick things and ill let you go. First, this new understanding of how long it lives on surfaces. Do you have a new understanding and does it inform on what we need to do . Yes. I mean, a study from my own group at my institute was done to show that if you do different surfaces, and you look at the level of virus thats viable, thats culturable and dangerous, over a period of time, depending on the surface, it can be anywhere from a few hours to in some places even a day or so. Now, that day or so may actually be so low its not going to hurt you, but you dont want to take any chances which is the reason why you want to make sure that you do clean off surfaces that are commonly used. But more important than all of that, ive said it many times, chris, make sure you wash your hands as often as you possibly can. Absolutely. We got it. Happy birthday two times in a row. Soap and water. Dry them off. I got it. Something i keep hearing from people that i want you to address dr. Fauci, swine flu, 61 Million People americans were affected. 12,000 people died. We didnt do this crazy stuff with the economy. Why . Why are we doing it all now when we didnt do it then . Whats your answer . Chris, this is different. This is totally different. The swine flu of 2009, the h1n1 was truly a pandemic. It spread widely. However, the lethalness, the capability of causing really bad harm with morbidity and mortality was much less than what we have seen in china, of what weve seen in south korea, whats going on in europe, and what were starting to see now in our own country. So there are worlds of difference between those two. Dr. Tony fauci, i know how busy you are. I know youre in the bubble, but i cant tell you how Many Americans are looking up to the information youre giving them. The consistency you provide, and it means everything to us on this show. Thank you, sir. Good to be with you, chris, as always. Stay strong. God bless. The different fronts in this fight. I wanted him to hear whats coming out and you got to hear from him what his take is on them. All right . Hes the best weve got. You got the medical precautions. 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We keep hearing capacity, nobody has the capacity. My brother andrew keeps saying i cant do it. Im trying to repurpose old hospitals and people are offering me things but i cannot fill out what i need. And the federal government keeps saying they dont have what they need. Yet, i dont feel like everything is being thrown at it. What am i missing . Well, first, i got to say Anthony Fauci is you heard the interview. Hes a rock star. I worked with him during the ebola crisis. At the same time hes briefing the president in the situation room is personally treating ebola patients. I listen to everything he says. Hes always been straight. Youve always been able to trust him . Absolutely. Second. If i were still in washington, id think about this. First, this exponential growth were seeing in the cases here in new york its approaching 20 of the entire nation in new york. I wonder whether its simply because were testing more people, or the virus is spreading to more people, or some combination of both. Thats critical to know. You need to know where the virus is spreading to to know how to track it. Now, in terms of the government response. In a situation like this with a lethal virus spreading across our country, first and foremost, it is up to state and local governments to regulate, encourage, discourage human behavior, human isolation. The federal government is should be principally responsible for providing the resources, getting the resources out to the field, out to the hospitals, out to the states, out to the cities. And we seem to be settling into that track right now. There is no one size fits all for the nation in terms of human behavior. So the government at the washington level has to be out there providing funds for masks, for ventilators, for test kits. We desperately need test kits inspect hospital beds. And resources like the ships apparently on their way to new york, and a lesson i learned from eastbound labola in 2014. First reactions are not always the best reactions. Those of us in washington when youre dealing with a crisis in high anxiety like were in right now, sometimes tend to lurch toward Political Solutions that sound good. That sound big and important like im invoking my authorities under the National Procurement act or the National Defense production act, wartime authority. My first question when i hear Something Like that is okay, what are you going to do with that . Now that youve invokeed this authority, triggered the authority, what are you going to do . How are you going to spend our taxpayer money, and while all this money is flying out of the federal treasury, lets please in washington avoid earmarks, pork slipping other things in. Lets make sure the resources and the money go to the places most in need right now. Two more hot points. One is the idea of the core of army engineers. I know were not china. We dont have the man power and the capabilities to build up as quickly as they did, but whether its the best medical capabilities in the world. Tony fauci keeps saying that. But the Human Capital has to be treated right and have what they need so they dont get sick. But building temporary hospitals and putting things up. California and new york are asking for it. Two of your big Population Centers but its not happening. I dont understand why. What is a good reason to not do that yet . I think our nations military whether its the army corpse of engineers, perhaps even active duty military personnel need to be in this fight. I would not federalize the national guard. There is something called title 32 status which enables the federal government to pay for resources for your brothers command and control in new york state. Our Defense Department is immense in terms of personnel, the resources. Lets think about smart ways to use the capabilities whether its hospital beds or active duty, consistent with the u. S. Military thats not supposed to engage in domestic law enforcement, and lets be smart about how we use this. How long should it take . When they ask i need you to build me hospitals . When i was at dhs, we had craig fugate at fema. Fema is incredible in terms of their ability to deploy resources overnight, quickly. And the u. S. Army could learn from fema. I would like to fema to help guide the way in terms of getting resources quickly out to the field in this situation. Chris, this is our 9 11. And it could be worse than 9 11. And so it requires mobilization, focus among government officials, but it also requires personal commitment and sacrifice among the american public. Those of us in washington have gotten out of the habit of asking the public for their help in dealing with a crisis. But we need to mobilize public support, public sacrifice, public effort, to fight this, and we will fight this and beat this eventually when the vaccine gets out there, but up until now weve got to engage in social isolation and do what our leaders tell us and well get through this. I havent seen the city feel like this since 9 11. The existential threat then was theyre going to keep getting us. We dont know when its coming, but this is it. Theyre going to come and kill us. This is the First Time Since then i felt it except they dont have that took like a month and a half before people started to turn like theres an enemy we can get. Here its a longer haul. Id love to shake your hand, but not right now. I appreciate you giving your perspective to the audience during this time. Thank you. Glad to be here. Were rolling out a new series to try to track whats happening here. Okay . Organizations that throughout this crisis represent the can in american. 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