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CNNW Cuomo Prime Time November 13, 2020

Trump is talking seriously about announcing that hes planning to run again in 2024. Aware that whether he actually does it or not it will freeze an already crowded field of possible republican candidates and republicans say it will keep the wide support he showed even in defeat and could guarantee a lucrative book deal or speaking fees. Sources tell cnn they expect trump to tease a 2024 run when he does finally acknowledge the results. Those sources expect trump to dismiss the 2020 race as a fraud with no proof and hinting ill be back. Sure, this may all work out well for him. But the rest of the republicans are submarining your democracy in the process. This is not America First. It is trump first and only. You need more proof . Just today the cisa, thats the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency, part of Homeland Security, trumps own administration obviously, says in a new statement in boldface, there is no evidence that any Voting System deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised. Why wont the cronies in congress own that . Why wont they put you first instead of trump . Together as ever as one. No matter who you voted for, whether you voted at all. This has to be about us. Its our only way through. And those who should be serving us, doing their job, but theyre only serving their own dilatory druthers. Every day they talk about trumps cause they abandon your own. Theyre not even talking about, let alone acting on the worst pandemic numbers to date. Theres nothing else to do. Theres nothing to do differently . Were dying at a faster rate and theyre doing less. They promised stimulus postelection. Remember that . Where is it . 709,000 more americans just filed for unemployment first time. More people are on food lines than at any time since the great depression. What happened to America First . Mr. Mcconnell, leader of the senate, he wont answer if biden should get classified briefings even though hes entitled to them as the president elect. And no movement for stimulus by him. Senate majority whip john thune says yeah, give biden the briefings but only because, makes sense to prepare for all contingencies. Look, taking office after being elected president is not a contingency. Its called democracy. And all of those undermining it know it. There are questions, they say. Based on what . Where is the proof . If questions were enough, trump would have been removed, not just impeached. And even more of his minions would be exchanging their names for numbers. Even those who appear to step up like senator lankford, who did publicly voice support for biden getting briefs, quickly gets on bended knee. We dont know yet, but we know there are issues, so allow the Legal Process to go through, allow the hand recount to happen in georgia, and once we get all past that then well know who the actual winner is. But at this point we dont know. Shame on him. Look how different he is when he doesnt know that the cameras on. I believe that verse, whether president obama got elected, whether President Trump got elected, whether now Vice President now president elect joe biden gets elected. In gods house hell tell the truth. Good you still keep that clear. And guess what . Maybe he doesnt keep it clear. You know what happened when that tape came out . He denied saying it. Its on tape. How stupid do they think you are . I can keep exposing the hypocrisy. But wouldnt it just be better for them to do their damn jobs . They want you to think votes for trump were fraudulent and yet they also want you to think that all the votes for congress on the same ballots are okay. All the wins for republicans. All the state legislative wins. Theyre good. But the trump ones, i dont know. Once people believe in absurdities, they are capable of atrocities. Voltaire was right. And these trumpets are wrong. This is the last chance for the sore losers on the left to steal the election. Theyre saying its rigged. But they have absolutely no evidence that its rigged. I dont think we should give them the time of day. Also hes about to win. We know its a matter of time. About to win michigan officially. That would put donald trump over the top, over 300 electoral votes. It was a blowout. I just wonder what these democrats are doing trying to convince their electoral representatives not to vote the way the people wanted. There are six of them. Now theres these states, lets have a recount. Its a crisis when the people running your democracy dont believe in democracy. We believe in free speech. We believe in accepting winners and not being sore losers. They have no actual proof of voter fraud or any wrongdoing. And both the white house and the Wisconsin Elections commission have both said zero evidence whatsoever. Now, what happened to the peaceful transition of power and supporting the Incoming Administration . You seriously cant make it up. You change trump for biden and the rs for the ds and theyre saying the exact opposite now of what they said then. With the exact same basis of proof. Zero. Its as obvious as it is ugly. Now, president obama, who welcomed trump to the white house right after his victory in 2016, he nailed it. He nailed whats going on today. Listen. They appear to be motivated in part because the president doesnt like to lose and never admits loss. Im more troubled by the fact that other republican officials who clearly know better are going along with this, are humoring him in this fashion. It is one more step in delegitimizing not just the Incoming Biden Administration but democracy generally. And thats a dangerous path. The question becomes will our institutions rise above the rabble . Well, heres one good nod. The joint chiefs of staff chair just said something that really shouldnt have to be said at all. Maybe it does. And he said it on veterans day, of all days. While trump is upending the pentagon to fill it with loyalists. Listen to this. We are unique among armies. We are unique among militaries. We do not take an oath to a king or a queen, a tyrant or a dictator. We do not take an oath to an individual. No, we do not take an oath to a country, a tribe, or religion. We take an oath to the constitution. Thank god for that. At least they still seem to be keeping the priorities straight. But how sad that the chair of the joint chiefs is a standout for saying the obvious. Doesnt it just expose what is not being said by those in power right now . This is america, lest we forget. Not long ago the head prosecutor at trumps impeachment trial told republicans, if you find the courage to stand up to him, to speak the awful truth to his rank falsehood, your place will be among the davids who took on goliath. If only you will say enough. That was chairman and congressman adam schiff, chairman of the house intel committee. He joins us now. Welcome back to prime time. Thank you, chris. So you foresaw Something Like this. But what do you make of so many members of the Republican Party in your ranks in congress holding up a baseless assessment of this election . Well, its shameless and it does, as president obama said, put us on a very dangerous path. But its the culmination of four years of this. The president was really only able to attack, for example, the independence of the Justice Department because the republicans stood mute or went along with it. He was only able to violate the hatch act and host a convention on the white house grounds because the republicans went along with it. He was only able to fire inspector generals or punish whistleblowers or any number of antidemocratic acts over the last four years because the republicans went along with it. And now most dangerously theyre going along with the big lie about the election we just had. And where does it end, chris . You might say, well, it will hopefully end with the Georgia Special election because right now they dont want to piss off the president and risk retribution in georgia. But it wont end there either because as long as hes hanging out the prospect that he might run or even if he doesnt run in four years he might bestow the crown on someone else, theyre going to continue to debase themselves and with it to debase our democracy. Has anybody come up to you in private and said hold your horses, i heard some things that youre going to want to have vetted about this election as well . Has anybody offered you anything . No. No. And i mean, look at the and you alluded to it earlier. But the incredible statement coming out of the department of Homeland Security, that cisa Agency Within homeland clear as day basically saying theres none of this massive fraud in terms of this particular election system that the president is alleging, basically you have the department of Homeland Security saying in effect theres nothing truthful about what the president has just said. I give them credit for courage. Thats a gutsy thing to do. But its the right thing to do. There ought to be more people in congress, within the executive branch as well, to show that kind of courage. So lets deal with the what nows questions. What now in terms of what can you guys do . Doesnt look like much. What now in terms of what this means for your ability to get any stimulus relief going or any kind of different approach to the pandemic that is eating us alive. You know, what does this mean for all these problems . Well, you know, i think that we can because well have to compartmentalize the need to get a relief bill passed. It just cant wait. It cant wait until we have a new president sworn in. There are millions of businesses teetering on the edge, many of which will not be there in january if we dont act to remen much the ppp program. Millions of people whose employment is running out or already has run out who are hanging by a financial threat. Schools that need help, cities and states that need help. We need to get this done. I have a little bit more optimism now that the election is over because the problem is this splits the republican conference in the senate. Mitch mcconnell didnt want to bring up a relief package that would divide his members until the election was over. Now he still has some of that same perverse incentive because the Georgia Special isnt over. But he sounds like he is more receptive to actually getting something done than before and we need to make it so. Because it just cant wait. Give me a little confidence in that optimism because to me it looks like you guys are into obama redux where, you know, mitch and the gang are going to just lock it up even though you have the house and hell do what he did to obama. No judges for this cat. Were going to hold up all of his appointments and hes not going to get anything done here unless we want it. Were still in control because they have one house of congress. You know, look, certainly i think thats what Kevin Mccarthy is coming from and that is see if we can prevent them from governing and then try to argue for a takeover of the congress because they didnt govern. Thats what they did during the obama administration. Its likely what mccarthys going to do. And maybe mcconnell as well. But here, chris, this is a reason for optimism. If there was ever a president positioned to break the impasse, its joe biden. Hes had decades of experience working with the congress. I dont think theres anyone who could work it better. He has relationships in the senate. He knows how to get deals done. Unlike donald trump, who was a good marketer but a terrible deal maker, joe biden actually knows how to get deals done. So that should be reason for optimism. And i think the American People are going to need to make it plain to Mitch Mcconnell and Kevin Mccarthy that if they dont come to the table theyre going to pay an awful price in georgia and the rest of the country in the midterms. Mixed me ed message on that. The republicans did well on the congressional side and really well on the state legislative side. And biden was there for both terms with obama. He didnt get any big deals done. The only big thing they got done, which was big, the aca, was a cramdown. Youre right. That was big. And as a result tens of millions of people will have health care that wouldnt have it otherwise. But it wasnt a deal. It wasnt a deal. No, youre right. Twl deals th there were deals that were made. That was as you Say Something that had to be muscled through the congress. But look, i think that joe biden has the personal skills. I also think that hes going to have the country rooting for him to succeed because they need the help. I mean, look at the hospitals are more full than ever with covid patients. People are dying in record numbers. The country sees that. You cant be blind to that. People want to put this pandemic behind them and get the economy fully reopen again. And we know we cant do that until we defeat the virus. So i think thats a perilous thing to get in the way of. Joe biden is going to try to defeat this thing and we can do this. The country has overcome bigger challenges in the past. And i think if Mitch Mcconnell and Kevin Mccarthy are nothing but an obstacle the country will see that. I just wonder if they dont benefit perversely from their efforts on the president s coattails of playing down the pandemic so that their constituents arent as worried about it as yours are. Even when they hear the statistics. And now youve got this time period, this period when we dont know whats going to happen, where the president is like on a revenge tour. Hes shifting up all these seats in the pentagon. You know, gina haspel now in the intelligence agencies seems like maybe she could be rush of revenge. Why do you think thats happening and what could it mean about what else this president will do in his time . Well, i think a big part of it is just plain pettiness. And the desire to retaliate against his perceived enemies. And the president doesnt need much more of a reason than that. That is who he is. He is nothing if not vindictive. But perhaps equally dangerous are the people that he is replacing these agency heads with. And these are unqualified partisan hacks that really dont have the policy chops and theyre not being put in there for that reason. And if were not careful they could create Foreign Policy crises in waiting for the new administration. And of course donald trump wouldnt care anything about that. One of the other points we emphasized, you brought up the trial at the beginning of the segment. In the trial is the one thing you can rely on with donald trump is he will do whats in his personal interest. He doesnt care what it means to the country. And if he can sabotage the next administration, he will do it. If he can retaliate against his enemies, he will do it. If he can stay in office and essentially vacate the election, he will do it. But he wont be able to. He wont be able to. And we just have to hope and pray, as you say, that a few more republicans find their courage and their voice and remind themselves what they ran for office for when they ran for office so long ago. It certainly wasnt to deny a peaceful transition of power. I mean, you add the word more. Right now were just looking for a few republicans, period. To just acknowledge this. Because you know, trump cant do it on his own. He can play with the appointments. But thats why i believe that the finger of blame and shame should be pointed at the republicans in congress, who are allowing this and pretending that this facade, this farce has some legitimacy to it. And i dont know how it ends, at least before like thanksgiving. I mean, whats the chance that anybody gets any help standing on food lines . You know, the 700plus thousand that just filed for unemployment. Before thanksgiving. Chris, its just got to end. We have got to get the relief done. We need to go into session and stay in session until we get it done. One thing that does give me optimism is we need to pass a bill to keep the government open. No one is going to want a shutdown of the government right now. And as we negotiate the package to keep the government open we will be negotiating the package to help the American People. And its my hope and to be optimistic my expectation that we will do both. Well, look, as always i hope youre right and im wrong. Because we need the people need help. This is beyond left and right. This is just about whats reaping. So hopefully mcconnell does act on the instincts you say may be present. Congressman schiff, thank you for your perspective and your optimism. Thanks, chris. All right. Be well. Now, the current president , donald trump, its not that hes never lost. Its that hes never lost and not been bailed out before. Right . Daddy was always there. And then the banks were on the hook so the banks were there. 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