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CNNW Early Start With John Berman And Christine Romans March 25, 2016

Europe. Possibly linked to the brussels and paris terror networks. The manhunt is still ongoing. One for the man who dropped off a bomb and ran at the airport and one who participated in the metro bombing. We learn of new intelligence failures. Top belgian officials admitting mistakes were made. We are covering the story the way cnn can with correspondents around the world. Lets start with Senior Correspondent Frederik Pleitgen in brussels. You report raids have happened across belgium in the last few hours. Reporter absolutely, victor. A flurry of activity by the belgian authorities. The recent one in the Early Morning hours of today. Police say they conducted a raid in the forrest area. It is an area where last tuesday, an apartment was discovered where also the dna of Salah Abdeslam, of course, implicated in the paris attacks and had links to the people who conducted the brussels attacks. His dna was found there and a few days later, he was apprehended by police. Several people overnight were detained. It is unclear if they will remain in custody or be charged. Then the raids that happened overnight in various locations in brussels. Among them where i am right now in the schaerbeek area which is where the plotters of the airport and metro went on to those locations from that apartment here. There were also arrests in another district called jette. And three people were taken into custody in front of the prosecutors office. We are waiting to see if they will remain in detention or if they will be let go. We know a forensic unit, victor, was in the apartment for several hours. We know belgium has lowered the security alert level. We see a lot of activity trying to penetrate this Network Across that neighborhood youre in there in brussels. Fred, thank you. Overnight in france, a paris suburb on lockdown as a major raid is conducted. A high level militant was arrested in the advanced planning of an attack. I want to bring in correspondent Jim Bittermann in our paris bureau. They had been looking for this guy for some time. They found him in the neighborhood of argentoi. Tell us about it. Reporter exactly. They found him yesterday morning, actually. He was picked up. He had been on the run since convicted in brussels. Police picked him up and on interrogation, they found he used an apartment in the northwest paris suburb. They raided that apartment at 5 30 last night. While the raid was still going on, the interior minister did the most extraordinary thing. Went on television at 20 minutes until 11 00 to talk about the fact there was a raid going on and not having all of the details. What they did find was a small quantity of explosives and hand guns. He said in the Television Discourse last night that the planning was going on for some attack in the paris or france area and the exact details are unknown. He said we will hear more from the paris prosecutor. The identity of the man is not known. A 34yearold frenchman. He was convicted in Brussels Court last july. What makes this interesting, i think, although the interior minister made it clear this was not linked to the brussels or paris attacks. What makes it interesting is his conviction last july in brussels was along with another person whose name appears everywhere. Abdelhamid abaaoud. Thought to be the ringleader for the paris attacks. Clearly he is in the terrorist cell and terrorist network that the investigators in belgium and france are investigating. Christine. Thank you, jim. Belgian authorities admitting mistakes were probably made leading up to the tuesday bombings. This morning, there are new questions about how suicide bomber Ibrahim El Bakraoui managed to slip through the cracks. He was deported by turkey and warned he was a militant. Turkeys president saying this was not the first time turkey warned european officials about a terrorist and only to be ignored. Lets bring in our correspondent arwa damon. This is what officials are calling a lack of urgency on the part of the european officials. Reporter and turkey is frustrated by all of this had not just because of the unnecessary loss of life, but turkey feels as if the west does not consider it to be an equal or credible partner despite what may be publicly said. Turkey for years has been gathering intelligence on a number of individuals. It has a watch list of upwards of 38,000 names that have been provided to turkey and every single time one of those people tries to enter the country, turkey says that it deports them and notifies the respective nation. In the case of el bakraoui, this is what happened. El bakraoui was actually not on any of these watch lists. He came into the country and started out by going to a resort town on the coast. A lot of people trying to join the fight in syria, especially if they are trying to join alongside isis do first try to pose as tourists because turkey has been cracking down. El bakraoui ended up where we are now in the city of gaziantep. One of the main transit hubs for anyone trying to get into the war zone. Intelligence is closely monitoring individuals who come through here. We dont know what it was about el bakraouis behavior that raised suspicious, but they were raised. They detained him and notified the netherlands because that is where he would be deported to as well as belgium. About what the turks firmly believed was his intent. To go and join isis on the battle field in syria. The netherlands say they were informed of the deportation, but not given the reason why. Belgium acknowledging this is an intelligence failure on their part. Speaking to the Bigger Picture in all of this, clearly there are severe issues with basic communication and following up on vital information. As you were mentioning, this is not the first time the turks say they provided information to europeans that has not been acted on. Two other cases we are aware of. One in which the turks notified the french of an individual actually on the watch list. Alerted to them by french authorities. They said he came to turkey. They deported him. He carried out a knife attack. Then a man who the turks flagged to the french as a person of interest and went on to be one of the main paris attackers. Thank you, arwa damon. And colonel leighton said they dont trust the turks here. That shows the divisions that are rife within the intelligence community. Officials are admitting the mistakes were made. Can europe fix the terror crisis . And now investigators warn new attacks could be coming. Oh, look. Another antiwrinkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen. Neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair works. In one week. With the. Fastest retinol formula available. 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And now if you buy a Samsung Galaxy s7 edge you get one free. 13 minutes after the hour. More on the intelligence failures that led up to the bombings in brussels. Authorities trying to figure out how to plug the security gaps. This is the same plan they agreed to, but failed to implement after the paris attacks. Lets go to washington and bring in former Deputy Director of the joint chiefs of staff. Colonel cedric leighton. They identified the man arrested overnight in paris. The man arrested and convicted in absentia in brussels for financially paying for and helping recruit young men to go to syria to go to the fight in syria and come back. The money guy here. What does that tell you about what officials and investigators are doing right now to pick up the loose ends and thwart any attack that could be happening . Christine, if it is the money guy, that is a big deal. It shows they have gotten through to the web of connections and they in essence picked up the bombmakers because of thing deaths in brussels. You also have a situation now where you have the money guy from argenteuil. If that is the case, they are trying to roll up the most important isis cells they can find right now. If they have the money guy, the hope is they can understand exactly where the money is going. Who is paid, how they are paid and what they are paid for and where the money comes from. Is it something that just comes from raqqah . The reported capital of isis in syria or other sources . That can open up a plethora of information that allows for further analysis and perhaps other arrests may be coming out of this as a result. This french suspect shares commonality with Ibrahim El Bakraoui as i read this profile that negates the narrative of the disenfranchised young men looking for inclusion. We know he was known by police for trafficking jewelry in 2013 and 2014. We know el bakraoui, described by the belgians as a criminal, but no connection to terror. It shows the line of general criminal activity and crossing over into terror. Thats right, victor. Thats an excellent point. What youre seeing is the under worlds comes together. Criminal under world and terrorist under world are finding common cause. They can use each other for purposes and for the criminal element, this brings about adventure and ability to bring a cause greater than themselves. When they do Something Like this, it really allows them to go beyond just petty theft or other acts of petty nature. When you do this, you have an interesting nexus that should be followed through by all Law Enforcement in europe. Criminal activity can often mask other things. In this case, when you talk about brussels and some neighborhoods outside of paris, you hear about lack of opportunity and high unemployment and how this jihadi narrative just sort of strikes a chord there. It is not the whole story. In some cases, we see educated young men from middle class families. We talk to mothers who are horrified who raised their children the right way and their sons are arrested. Do Law Enforcement need to do more on the front end in prisons and in schools . Instead of solving the crime at the end, do more to prevent the allure of the jihadi narrative of the young men in the first place . Christine, i think so. Going after crimes and criminal acts is reactive. You know, were very good at that. We tend to react to stimuli of various types. All nations do that. Its much more important to get at the root causes. When you talk about this, it is not just disaffected youth, but you are dealing with people who have the means, but also getting an opportunity to lead. In some cases, that leadership opportunity is what they seek. They dont necessarily care where theyre leading, but care that they lead. If they can lead an enterprise like an isis cell, they say why not. We have to prevent that. Perhaps it is a bit of a moral education more than anything else. It is an effort to recognize these things are often based on factors as desires to lead and influence and that is one of the major elements in the narrative. It is complicated and so many different threads to sew together to solve it. Colonel, thank you. Nice to see you. We will continue with the coverage of the breaking news overseas in a moment. Lets look back at the eight tea teams moving on. Andy scholes with the Bleacher Report next. It took Joel Silverman years to become a master dog trainer. But only a few commands to master depositing checks at chase atms. Technology designed for you. So you can easily master the way you bank. If you misplace your you can use freeze it to prevent new purchases on your account in seconds. And once you find it, you can switch it right on again. Youre back freeze it from discover. Get it at discover. Com. Its intelligent drive is msystems. Ng. 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