Sterlings claims he is not a good role model about his history with sterling and future of the l. A. Clippers. First lets quickly get you caught up in how we got to this point exactly. It all started when the woman, v. Stiviano posted a pk tour, showing her with Magic Johnson. For whatever reason this photo upset Donald Sterling. He said it was simple jealousy. Others say it was flak out racism. Here is part of the conversation subsequently released. I saw someone i admire. I admire Magic Johnson. Okay good. Sorry. He made a lot of changes for his community, for the world, for the people, for the minority. He has helped a lot of people. Im finished talking here. I have nothing more to say. Im in a picture with someone i admire. Okay. And he he happens to be black and im sorry. I think its nice that you add mir him and in your whole entire life admire here. Bring him, feed him. I dont care. But dont do it for the world to see. And dont bring him to my games, okay . So now Magic Johnson find himself in the middle of something for taking a picture with someone that he does often. Now this went much, much further. Lashing out in a way that is simply shocking. Here is a man who i dont know if i shared this, he acts so holy. He made love to every girl in every city and in america and he had aids. And when he had those aids, i went to my synagogue and prayed for him. I hope he can live and be well. I didnt criticize him. I could have. Is he an example for children . He has money, hes able to treat himself. But Magic Johnson is irrelevant in this thing. I didnt do anything harmful to anybody. I respect him and admire everything he does. I would like to help even more if he would offer me an tount to help. I like to help minorities. He called you up when the tape came out and told you not to say anything or something . Yeah. Why did he say dont say anything . He said wait, be patient, ill help you, we will work it out. Why did he say that . I think he wanted me just to do nothing so he could buy the team. He thought the whole thing would be revolved in two weeks. What has he done . Can you tell me in big Magic Johnson, what has he done . He is a business person. Hes hes got aids. Did he do any business . Did he help anybody in south l. A. . I think he has hiv. He doesnt actually have full blown aids. What kind of a guy goes and has sex with every girl then catches hiv. Is that someone we want to respect and tell our kids about . I think he should be ashamed of himself. I think he should go into the background. But what does he do for the black people . Doesnt do anything. Were going to have Magic Johnsons feelings about those particular comments in this hour. We begin our conversation today talking about the first recording that surfaced. Recording that started it all. When you first heard the audio tape that was released, a couple weeks ago, what did you think . Well, i was just i was blown away. I was i couldnt believe that he had said those things. First of all. Made those statements. Those racist statements. And then, you know, threw me in. Dont bring him to my games. And so you personally attack me. And so and i had known donald. Not very well. I knew him. I met with him three or four times. Been to his office. Were you guys friends . I would say we were friends. My first trip, when i got here in l. A. , over 35 about 35 years ago, dr. Bus took me to his beach house for his annual Beach House Party in the summertime. Thats one of the first things i did. To reflect back to that, to the statements he made about myself and minorities, it was disappointing and i was in disbelief he would say these things. And then, you know, to throw me into the situation. I dont know the young lady. Barely know donald. So now im caught in the middle of a love affair, whatever they have. And so it was sort of disappointing. But i had to respond, okay, you dont want me to come to your games. Okay, i wont come to your games. You dont have to worry about that. But i was also upset because he threw minorities in. Africanamerican webs latinos, into the situation. I had to speak up. Look, im one of the leaders of the black community. I cant let anybody attack our people and not respond. Thats why i responded. First of all, you said you were photographed with v. Stiviano. You are probably photographed with millions of people. He said you knew her and new her well. I never met this young lady. I took a picture with her. Looked like at a dodger game. Thats it. Thats all i know of her. And then, he said, im trying to set him up. How am i trying to set you up. One of the things he said in the interview. Let me play that part. He said to me, that you called him up, he doesnt have your number, he didnt call you. You called him up after the tape was released end told him to kind of lay low. Dont say anything public. I want to play that mp Magic Johnson, made a public comment. Do you have something to say to him . What can i say to him. It doesnt matter. It doesnt matter. Im hurt. But it doesnt matter. Youre hurt that he that he spoke out publicly . Im hurt that he called me up and said, dont say anything. Wait until you hear from me. Then later someone said he doesnt want to be involved. Then he released a tape that i said to him, that i said to him in confidence. These are the facts. Im sitting in my office, i get a call from Donald Sterling. He called you. He called me. I took the call. Apparently he has your phone number. Yes. His assistant called my assistant and she put him through. This is what happened. He asked know go on the Barbara Walters show with him. This is a week ago, week and a half ago. He met with Barbara Walters on a friday. It was before that. I told him i wouldnt do it. I said the number one thing you need to do which you havent done is apologize to everybody and myself. Ill get to that, ill get to that. So he wanted you to go on with Barbara Walters sitting next to him . Sitting next to him. To give him cover . Exactly. So i said no. Then i told him, i said, donald, you should consult with your attorneys. This thing is a big thing. You should deal with your attorneys and let them advise you on what to do. You need to go public and apologize to everybody. How did he respond . Well, i apologize later. But i want you to go on this show. He was adamant about me going on the show with him. I told him no, i wouldnt do it. Thats what happened. Thats it. Then i called adam silver, our great commissioner, and told him what happened. You told adam silver that Donald Sterling called. Had just called. I wanted him to know that it happened so he wouldnt be blindsided either. So then i called all my people to let them know, Donald Sterling had just called me. Theres a report that an attorney for you or somebody called his attorney and said, look, dont keep calling magic. Dont call magic back. Yes. Because he wanted to call me again. So my people, my attorneys and advisers said, look, you cant be talking to donald. I said, okay. So thats what happened. So we just called his attorney and said, dont be personally calling me. I didnt want him to feel that he could just call me because he hadnt apologized to me. This is really weird. Im really disturbed by the fact that, you know when he called me, he should have said, magic, im sorry. Right, and i asked him specifically if he apologized to you. And he said, no. No. He didnt apologize at all. It seems like a surprise to him that he should be expected to maybe an apologize. He said dont bring magic to my games. He is the one who made these comments. So i was expecting at least an apology. And American Public wanted an apology. He finally did that. But this is sad. When i saw the interview, its sad. It really is. Im going to pray for this young plan. I hope donald can see the mistake that he has made and also the people he has hurt along the way. And then whats really sad, you know, it is not about me. This is about the woman you love, outing you and taping you, and putting your conversation out here for everybody to know. That wasnt me. I didnt do that. I dont know this young lady. This is between you two. But then he want to include me. And im not included in this situation. Then he wants to, you know, ask me what ive done in the Minority Community. Thats well documented what ive done. And were going to talk about that in a moment. Magic johnson was gracious, throughout our interview today, including during a part that was very uncomfortable to bring up. I played for him Donald Sterlings outrageous comments from when he and i spoke yesterday. Can you tell me, big Magic Johnson, what has he done . He is a business person, he hes got aids. Did he do any business did he help anybody in south l. A. . 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Nutrition in charge™. Improving everything from booking to baggage claim. Were raising the bar on flying and tomorrow well raise it yet again. One of the frankly strangest parts of my interview with Donald Sterling was his attack on Magic Johnson as a role model, somebody who has done a lot for his community and his very misinformed rant of Magic Johnson having aids, for the record, he does not have aids, he is hivpositive. Some of his responses. Two comments that outraged a lot of people, i was shocked, frankly when he said them to me. Listen to this. Can you tell me, big Magic Johnson, what has he done . He is a business person, he has he has got aids, did he help anybody in south l. A. . Well, i think he actually has hiv, he doesnt have fullblown aids. What kind of guy goes to every city and sleeps with every girl and catches hiv . Is that someone we want to respect and tell our kids about . I think he should be ashamed of himself and go into the background. Here is a man, i dont know if i say this he acts so holy. He made love to every girl in every city in america, and he had aids. And when he had those aids i went to my synagogue and i prayed for him. I hoped he could live and be well. I didnt criticize him. I could have, is he an example for children . Im embarrassed to even play this in front of you. Yeah, yeah, well, you know, here is a man who we would think would be educated. And a man who would is smart enough to build his type of wealth and own a team that has an incredible platform to change the world. But he is doing it in a negative way. You know, first of all 22 years ago i announced that i did have hiv. And i came out like a man. You know, i told the world. Because of the hiv virus that i have obtained, i will have to retire from the lakers today. I didnt blame nobody else. I understood what i did was wrong. Okay . So i announced that to the world. And i hope that i was able to help people in doing that. And i think i did. You helped countless numbers of people. And i have been to hospice, hospitals, hugging people with hiv and aids, you know, before they were dying. Or people who had didnt know if they could live a long time. I hugged them. I counseled them. I talked to them. I talk to them about taking their meds and making sure that they stay on their regimen, which is key. I talked to a lot of young people who had just gotten hiv and thought about committing suicide. And i tried to talk them out of that. And we have given away over 15 million, my foundation. I joined the hiv president and aids council. I have done a lot of work in the hiv community. The Magic Johnson foundation has done work for over 20 years. You have given millions and millions for hiv aids, education, you have expanded out to other areas for people in underserved areas, community outreach. The idea you dont go out and do stuff, you dont put ads in the paper about what you do which is something that Donald Sterling has done, but you do the work. Yeah, i do the work and we work with great hiv organizations across this country, we partner with them. So i dont have to sit and publicize everything i do. It is not organic like that. Look, i just feel sorry for him. I really do. It is sad. It is interesting to me that he clearly doesnt know the difference between aids and hiv, which is you know, whatever, a lot of people of probably dont understand that difference. But also that in this day and age he would bring this up as somehow what he feels is like a club to wield against you. And to me there is a larger issue here of discrimination against people with hiv. Right. And attitudes towards people with hiv. And i was reading studies on the way over here. You know, there is still this stigma about hiv in this country. And i think some of what he said really it is like a teachable moment on this. There are still people who believe you should not you know, they dont want somebody working in the kitchen who is serving food to them who is hiv positive. They dont want somebody working in the office, going in the same bathroom as them. There is still this stigma around them. Anderson, our biggest fight in the hiv aids community is stop discriminating against people who have hiv and aids. We have to continue to educate people just like Donald Sterling about those who are living with hiv and aids. And then the last thing, we have to continue to care for people who have it. I hope this doesnt set us back. The stigma is still there. We know that. We have been fighting it for years. And what we want to continue to do is just educate the world that it is okay, a person, you can high five a person who has hiv. It is okay. You can play on a sports team with somebody. Exactly, your kid can go to school with somebody, a kid who has hiv. There is nothing that is going to happen to them, so it is a shame that donald used this platform with you to, instead of coming out and apologizing to the world, which would have been great. And said you know what, im sorry i made some mistakes. And just left it there. Magic johnson should not have been included in your conversation. Because i have nothing to do with this. But since you put me in it again and then you want to try to disrespect me, the work that i have done in the Minority Community that really makes me upset. And then my competitive spirit comes out because i have done all of this great work. All the kids weve sent to college. I have 150 kids on scholarship right now. And again, this is not something you publicize and a young man talked about going to school, and you gave millions to open up churches in urban communities. And again, you dont trump this. Even your business work. Not your foundation work, even your business work is devoted to largely underserved communities, urban communities and bringing businesses in. You were instrumental in bringing in starbucks and all of these businesses and movie theaters into areas. It was important that we have options that we can go and go have the best cup of coffee served by starbucks. But also it brought jobs. See it brings jobs. We have created thousands and thousands of jobs in urban america. Those people can now walk to their job. They can take care of their families because of starbucks, 24hour fitness, on and on, the Magic Johnson theaters. So i have continued to do good work in urban america. I will always do that. My whole life is devoted to urban america. So you know i just wish he knew the facts when he is talking. But he is a man who is upset and he is reaching. He is reaching. He is trying to find something he can grab onto to help him save his team and it is not going to happen. It is not going to happen. Well, beyond the factually incorrect assertions that Donald Sterling made about Magic Johnsons track record of helping other people, what is strange is the animosity that he has against him, which is misplaced. It is not lost on magic. He needs to address this young lady, because that is the problem. That is where the problem started. Not with Magic Johnson, it started with his girlfriend. Yoe on car insurance. Everybody knows that. Well, did you know that game show hosts should only host game shows . Samantha, do you take kevin as your lawfully wedded husband. Or would you rather have a new caaaaaar say hello to the seasons hottest convertible. Ohhh. And say goodbye to samantha. [ male announcer ] geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 or more. Colace® capsules, for comfortable relief from occasional constipation, announces the 50,000 spa wellness giveaway. Couldnt you use a spa treatment . Visit colacespa. Com to win weekly trwith secure wifie for your business. It also comes with public wifi for your customers. Not so with internet from the phone company. I would email the phone company to inquire as to why they have shortchanged these customers. But that would require wifi. Switch to comcast Business Internet and get two Wifi Networks included. Comcast business built for business. When i spoke with Donald Sterling, he maintained that he is a good team owner for the l. A. Clippers and that other owners support him. He seemed to be clining onto the idea that he can maintain ownership of the clippers and said th