Im jim sciutto in for erin burnett. And front, the recovery of flight 8501. As the sun breaks over the java sea, researchers are looking for the grim task. The debris discovered 62 miles, perhaps than a hundred miles from the last known place in the area. The destroyer, uss sampson has discovered some debris as well. At this hour three bodies have been recovered. Families of passengers first learned when bodies aired on the television. Overwhelmed by the confirmation of their worst fears. A family of five on vacation two families of four a man heading to singapore for his wedding. Earlier a military aircraft spotted a shadow of what looked like a plane in the water and soon what it appeared to be an emergency exit and a number of the bodies. The debris feel is in the cara matta straight and the water there averaging between 80100 feet and large waves hamper the recovery. Among the questions well examine is did the aircraft stall and if so why . And why has debris been found so far from the last known location in the air . And why did authorities wait 90 minutes to declare 8501 missing . Also while no one will speculate on the cause of the crash yet, ceo Tony Fernandez indicated that the Severe Weather is at least a cause for concern. The flights in malaysia and thailand there is a lot of rain. So that is something that we have to look at more carefully because the weather is changing. Andrew stevens is outfront live in indonesia where the flight originated. A tremendous amount of progress the first signs of debris and bodies. What is the latest now as another day of search begins . Reporter jim, this is the grim basically aftermath of an air crash. We are at the sur a baya airport and ive counted ambulances lined up to wait for the bodies to come back and transported to a Police Hospital where the identification will take place. But the conditions were being told are rough, it is still rough out there. That shadow of the plane, such a crucial part of the puzzle finding the actual main part of the plane, they cant relocate it. That is what we are being told about 15 minutes ago. So that is a focus. Search today. Obviously as finding bodies as well. But it has been an absolutely heartrendering past 24 hours for the families of the passengers and the crew on board that flight. Take a look. A grim recovery operation is now underway in the waters off indonesia. There is rescue teams working to retrieve bodies and debris from the wreckage of airasia flight 8501. It was found off the coast of bornio about 60 miles from the last known location over the java sea. It is an experience i never dreamt of happening and it is probably an airline ceos worst nightmare, after 13 years of flying millions of people. It is the worst feeling one could have. Reporter as searchers pull bodies from the waters family members watch the scene on live television. After seeing debris they saw video of a helicopter lowering a diver to what appeared to be a floating body. Some people fainted, others burst into tears. 155 passengers and seven crew members were on that flight. Translator when they explained not only did they find debris and also found bodies floating in the water, everyone became hysterical especially the mothers. One mother even blacked out. Reporter the airbus a 320 lost contact early sunday morning shortly after the pilot requested permission to turn and climb to a higher altitude because of bad weather. Cnn obtained audio of air Traffic Control moments before the plane left indonesias second biggest city. [ inaudible ]. Reporter officials are hoping to find the planes black boxes which should contain critical information about what happened in the planes final moments. Search and rescue teams are diverting all of their resources to where the debris was found. The u. S. Is one of several nations contributing to the effort. A u. S. Navy destroyer arrived on tuesday and another is being prepared to deploy from singapore. U. S. Fort worth, that ship is getting ready to sail and can be ready in a day or two to get on station and can be there fairly quickly. Reporter and we know that heavy rain bands, jim, are sweeping through the search zone. There are swong winds and also strong winds and quite high waves. So this is a challenge for the search teams as they try to pull bodies out and try to locate crucially the main fuselage of that plane which has the voice and cockpit recorders and the black boxes, jim. This is just the beginning of a long and difficult and painful search effort. Thanks very much to Andrew Stevens live in surabaya in indonesia. And now there has been found some debris the next step is identifying the exact location of the plane itself. The main debris field. Tom foreman is outfront with the latest. Tom how are they conducting the search particularly in the conditions there they have much Shallow Water than the mh370. This is only about 100 feet or so. Lets go over the basics. You have three layers of search. The first is what were talking about. We know where the plane went and where the search areas were established and where debris has been found and in the red box and there are royaling waters that can move things around a great deal. That is the first layer. The top of the water. The first layer of searching matters because that is where the first clues come. If you think about all of those things that they found so far, the pieces on top of the water those can give you an if idea of where to look. They may or may not be critical clues to what happened to this plane, but if you take those and go to the second area of searching, which is the water column ben eeblg the surface, this beneath the surface, 80100 feet down to the bottom and study the currents out there, you can reverse engineer where those pieces on the top may have come from what relationship they may have to something on the bottom. So that can lead you to the parts that you really want which is the third level down here. The things that are actually on the ocean floor. Those matter because those are the heavy bits to put it quite simply. You are talking about things that will tell you what happened to this plane, pieces of wings and the tail and the electrical system and the flight data recorder and the voice recorder the engines, each at about 9,000 pounds an landing and landing gear and those are the things if you collect enough of them you can reassemble and get a picture of what really happened to the plane. And they are all in the third layer in all likelihood the bottom layer. What is on the bottom of the water there. So tom, lets compare this to past under water search efforts. We said much shallower than with mh370 and that search still going on. But is tw 800 off the coast of long island Shallow Water as well is that a good comparison here . It is a good comparison. It was closer to shore and that made the search easier. And make no mistake, it is not easy under water. Divers and robotics even 80100 feet down it is a challenge. But that is a good comparison because they were able to go in the water and by searching for all of the heavy bits on the bottom look at what they came up with. They were able to assemble 95 of that plane. They recovered all of the victims, even though it took ten months to get to the last one and it took them a lot of time to get the pieces together. But this is what really counts. Because once you have this you can reassemble the plane and look for damage to the plane and see if it tore apart on impact or landed largely in tact. You can see if there was a fire or explosion or failure of a major system. That is why it is so important that they collect all of the pieces and all three layers top, middle and bottom particularly those big pieces on the bottom because that is how you reassemble in effect the scene of the crime and the accident and how it happens. That is a great point. Because with all of the pieces it took years to figure out what brought that plane down. Four years. And it could take that long. Thank you. And i want to bring in robert quest and president of duquesne seat come that locates the beacon on the flight. Richard, if i could begin with you, wreckage positively identified from the plane. But 60100 miles from the last known location in the air, it is early and we know this is speculation, but does that give you a clue does it tell you anything about how that plane might have come down . Not yet. No. Im afraid it doesnt. We can hypothesize, did it come down because if it fell out of the sky, it should have Forward Movement but this 50100 miles, did it land off but it doesnt really tell us. But what it does do the crucial importance of this is it tells us the plane fell out of the sky in that area. And that sounds obvious. But at least you are narrowing the field down. You have this vast water, but now at least it is not quite as vast. Look at that debris field, where the debris was recovered. You can get rid of the rest of that area. It is not going to be that far away from there. It is just not. And of course again, when we compare it to mh370 remember the large portions of the south indian ocean at the time that is a major step forward. But many steps. And if i can bring you in explain the range needed to detect a ping from the black box . It is no more than two miles or so. So already we are talking about 60 miles from last known location in the air of this plane, which raises the possibility of a very large debris field. So does that make it clear that there is still a lot of work to be done before you can start reliably putting something in the water, a hydrophone and come to find where the black box is . Correct, jim. Good evening jim and richard. Here is a pinger. This is a typical typical of the one installed on the aircraft in question. The range of these pingers is like you said about two miles in great or perfect seastate conditions. So you are talking about not a lot of chop and few waves. So you need to be close to get a good location. So we have a lot of fwhork front of us in terms of narrowing the debris field to tree ang late on a location just yet. But a big step forward in that you have some debris which begins to give you a sense of the debris field and gives you a much better target to look for and listen for for this pinger than for instance when they were listening months ago for mh370. Right. And we like to say you have the hay stack, now you know where to look to find the needle. I like to if you go back a little bit, since they started putting beacons on black boxes in the late 60s, early 70s, theyve had 12 incidences where they have not recovered a flight data or voice data recorder. Of those, three are in relatively Shallow Water. So we still have a lot of work to do to make sure we can try ang late and pick up on the data devices. No question. Richard, well step back a moment to the moment the plane disappeared. Because it is also become clearer it was 90 minutes after air Traffic Controllers lost contact with this flight before they declared it missing. That is a crucial 90 minutes. And i know it is difficult to imagine that someone could have survived this but at least you would have started the search quicker, wouldnt you . But you dont start a search like that. When you declare a Plane Mission mission missing and elevate it to code red and the process. You are putting in place ships and planes and people are starting to move. So this might not just be a pilot dillatory or a radio that failed. So 90 minutes sounds like a long time but look at how long it was for mh370. It was hours. 90 minutes they are not sitting there doing nothing in that 90 minutes. They are calling each other and saying have you seen it. Call the other aircraft and the previous aircraft controller call the company, call the airline. And everybody is going backwards and forwards and before long an hour has gone past. I dont mean to unfairly lay blame and maybe you can tell us you know this well if it is completely unreasonable to imagine you might have saved lives had you been able to move more quickly . Yes, is the short answer. You could save lives if the plane didnt fall out of the sky. But the hypothesis, assume the plane landed on the water and attempted water landing. And that 90 minutes could have been crucial. Yes, absolutely. It could have been crucial. Something we dont know but it is a possibility you have to account for. The 90 minutes on its own is not an unreasonable amount of time before somebody pushes a Big Red Button and says panic. Thank you, very much Richard Quest and anish patel. Outfront next there is the look at airasia stalled in flight. How is it possible for a plane to stall. And the planes black box is still under the sea. What the u. S. Navy is bringing to that search. And another airasia accident again with an airbus a320. 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Reporter when an airline loses lift or stalls the result could be catastrophic. Once you are in an unrecoverable stall what happens . There are various types of stalls but for the most part on a swept wing airplane you are going to see a flat situation because the pilots will try to control it and will almost be like a leaf. How is that possible . Well how can you be moving forward. It is possible because they go to such a slower speed. Reporter a stall occurs when not only the airspeed slows but the wings are at such an extreme angle or as pilots call it the angle attack the plane loses lift and can plummet. The reason the airplane flies is because you have high appreciate pressure on top of the wing and low pressure underneath. And the more the attack occurs the more likely you get a stall. Reporter in the case of qz 8501 already possible information, air data control showing it descending before seeing it disappear on the radar. We havent verified it with data that he was avoiding weather by going up and that is not something we like to do. We would like to go left or right. As with flight 8501 and air france 447 was flying from rio to paris on a powerful storm. Ice formed on the planes exterior. The tubes deliver critical information to the planes computers. Pilots had confusing signals as to what was happening with the plane. They were getting horns and sirens readouts on the displays and they are trying to determine what is happening with the airplane. Reporter the 447 pilot, thinking the plane was losing airspeed, increased power and climbed, pushing the airplane into a catastrophic stall. The flight voice recorder captured the confusion in the cockpit, with the stall warning blaring, the captain said watch out, you are pulling up one of his copilots responded, am i pulling up . And despite heat at that altitude and in those stormy conditions ice could rapidly and easily form. Were the pilots of 8501 getting similar information about what was happening to the plane . You are talking super cools water droplets. What would happen the concentration was such that it blocked the pedo tubes and the heating system failed or didnt keep up with it. All questions for investigators as the search for victims continues, the search for answers just as intense. So the question is could we have another airbus plane with a similar problem to 447 and that is something investigators want to understand. Just as one who flies, as we all fly so much just the idea that these modern aircraft could just fall like that is stunning. Hard to get your head around. Jim. No question. That is early and one question. Thank you. And here is dan yl sousy. And Richard Quest, and the host of quest means business. And dan duke a retired United Airlines pilot who has flown the a320 in this part of the world. And david, i begin with you. This is a difficult assignment at this stage because it is early. But we did get new information today. The most crucial you found debris from the plane so you know it hit the water. But two also that much of the debris at least today, 60 miles from where the last known communication is what does that tell you . Well part about the debris still has so many questions in it for me. And it could be answered by a thousand different scenarios. So to go into any of the scenarios isnt beneficial but one we should point out. That debris is not indicative of what would be a single point of impact. If you look at 447 it would be a bigger concentration concentration . More than that yes it would be more but concentrated and spread out and after these days it would have a pattern to it. And i spoke with david gallo about that pattern and where they pick the pieces doesnt necessarily tell us there was a significant point of impact. So well hold out on. That and what new clues can tell us and what value they add. And richard, looking at the bodies, a difficult subject, but this has been raised by several experts today, if the clothes have come off the body it is an indication that the body was outside of the aircraft possibly the wind would take them off, is that a key clue at this stage or could that mean as david referenced multiple things. Multiple things depending. What it wont tell you let me reverse engineer this. What it wont tell you is why the plane came out of the sky. It could tell you give an indication as to the condition of the plane. Yes, it can give an indication of the nature of the fall the nature of the velocity of it and how they perished on the way down. But you get better information from the aircraft itself in terms of the metal and the stresses on the metal. Of course when you find the black box, presumably you do. Dan, i would love to speak to you as well. You have flown the plane. Nobody knows the inside of the cockpit and the conditions the crew might have gone through. Stall is a possibility of many. How can a pilot get out got an airplane out of a stall and would this pilot been specifically and repeatedly trained