Outfront, tonight, the breaking news the family of Tony Robinson an unarmed teenager kill by police is speaking out and demanding answers. His uncle spoke out just a short time ago. He called on police to stop targeting young black men. We are all left to deal with the aftermath. Robinson died on friday night. Police say the officer was forced to open fire after getting into a struggle with the 19yearold. That deadly encounter now sparking protests across the city. A thousand people gathering across the streets and also inside wixs Capital Building to demand change. The department of justice announced it is conducting an investigation. Ryan young is out front live for us in madison, wisconsin. Ryan are police expecting more protests there . Reporter they are expecting more protests. In fact we talk to some people who said they plan to walk into city hall to protest all day long weve been walking with them as they walk inside the State Capitol. Watched them chant. I want to show you the growing memorial across the street here. Thousands of people have been walking and talking about this in the area. They want change. They want a difference. [ chanting ] they came armed with their voices. Young protesters marching through the streets of madison into the State Capitol propelled by their anger. Wanting the world to hear their outrage over the killing of Tony Robinson. An unarmed teenager shot by a Police Officer. I think the killing of Tony Robinson was just the icing on the cake accident and they said no more. It didnt take a lot to organize this. This speak to a universal problem with Law Enforcement. Especially what happens over the summertime. Specifically as it pertains to the systemic argumenting of young black males. Scanner traffic gives us a glimpse of 911 call just before the incident. Another call said robinson was trying to strangle someone. Officer matt kenny reports he heard a commotion inside this apartment and forced his way through the door. The officer indicated a fight started and he was hit in the head by robinson. 30 seconds later. Shots fired, shots fired. Robinson died after being shot. He was unarmed and thats going to make this all the more complicated for the investigators, for the public to accept to understand that deadly force had to be used. Reporter this isnt the first time officer kenny has been involved in a deadly shooting. In 2007 he shot and killed a man in what the police chief described as suicide by cop. He was exonerated of any wrongdoing. As this community struggles to deal with this shooting weve learn friday night wasnt Tony Robinsons first runin with the law. Back in december he pleaded guilty to armed robbery, but his mother maintains his son was not a violent teen. My son was the kindest, lovingest, playful kids. He played games all day long. He loved his family. He loved his friends. He was never never, never, never hurt a person never. My son was a very tall big boy, 64 220 pounds but never fight. Reporter we heard over and over this is not ferguson especially from the protesters. They said they wanted to remain organized, that way no one gets hurt and nothing gets out of hand. Thats something the family also wants. To make sure it remains a peaceful protest. James palmer the executive director of the Wisconsin Professional Police department and i know that you cant get into specific details of this case because this investigation is going on this independent investigation, but looking at some of the facts here and what weve heard, just speak more generally about deadly force, when you see it being justified in the case of an unarmed person. Sure thank you. First, i want to say on behalf of all the law, everyone in the Law Enforcement community our hearts go out to the robinson family. I think everyone acknowledges and recognizes that that family has suffered a tragic loss regardless of the circumstances, but you are correct that there are circumstances in which an unarmed individual can pose a deadly threat to a Law Enforcement officer that would generally justify the use of deadly force, and obviously that will be a consideration and an assessment that the department of criminal investigation here in wisconsin will have to make. So when is the case when someone who is unarmed poses a threat enough to a Police Officer, that deadly force can be utilized . Sure. Well there are a number of farks that the investigators will evaluate. The proximity of mr. Robinson to officer kenny. To what extent you know officer kenny could have utilized alternative measures. The real fear for any officer when being attacked is generally speaking is their weapon will be taken away. An unarmed individual can become armed very quickly. You just heard some of the words from robinsons uncle. I want to listen to a little more about what he said today about issues between police and young black men. The problem with the way that Police Policies are being carried out specifically as it pertains to young black men, because the numbers dont lie. He said specifically as it pertains to young black men, but hes making a larger point here that goes beyond robinsons death. Can you react not to this case in particular but really to that larger point that hes making there . Well i think thats a discussion that the Law EnforcementCommunity Across the country is willing to embrace. Just last week president obamas task force on 21st Century Policing presented its report to president obama, and one of the recommendations was that the Law EnforcementCommunity Engage in a nationwide discussion and dialogue about Law Enforcement practices and training. Here in wisconsin, we have the benefit of a law thats first of its kind in the country that mandates an independent and transparent investigation. We understand in madison there really is a culture of activism thats present here and people are right to have questions and right to express their concerns and we believe at the end of the day, when the investigation is completed, that hopefully those questions will be answered. Youve spoken to officer kenny. How is he doing and what did he tell you about this incident . Well, without going into the details of incident itself because it is under investigation, officer kenny, this is a stressful time for any officer involved in this situation. No officer begins his shift with the expectation or even the desire to take a life. They simply want to come home do their job and come home and certainly thats true of officer kenny. Its a stressful period for him and his family but he also understands, like i said that a family here has suffered a tragic loss and he respects the fact that there has to be a necessary investigation to evaluate his conduct and thats something that serves not only the Law Enforcement community but the General Community as well. Jim, thanks so much. I really appreciate you being with us. Thank you. Outfront former nypd officer Eugene Odonnell and hes also a professor, and we me we have van jones. Van, to you first, were seeing actually lets come back to van in just a moment but eugene i want to talk to you about one of the 911 calls that weve been hearing. Lets listen. Apparently tony hit one of his friends. No weapons seen. I got another call for the same suspect. Went inside stride to strangle another patron. You hear it there. He says no weapon seen and i know we just heard from Police Expert in wisconsin that an unarmed man can become armed, but if robinson was acting out, threatening people but wasnt armed, isnt there an alternative . There must be some alternatives for an officer to try to make sure that this doesnt escalate to the point of shooting someone who is unarmed . Of course officers have broad discretion in these situations. They dont know how these things end. So expost facto is pretty much a valueless judgment. You dont know these things can rapidly deteriorate and remember every time the police are there, deadly force is there. They dont know how its going to end, but they also need to go in, right, with the proper training, with a certain mind set to try to at the end of the day not kill someone, so what is that . Well, the law gives them Broad Authority if they needs to do it. Thats the bottom line. They are not expected to be attacked. Its incumbent on the person who is attacking them. Its incumbent not to attack the police. Well see what happens in this case. But last week we saw a depiction of the l. A. P. D. As some sort of brutal organization. They are owed an apology. They responded to an armed robbery. They frontally attacked, and they were injured. The guy was a robber. They were owed an apology. Well see what happens in this case but the police are going to have broad protection always in these situations because again these things can deteriorate quickly and Police Officers do get killed in these situations as much as many trivialize that. Van, can you respond to that . Eugene is saying that its incumbent on a person not to attack the police or this can happen . Of course threats be very clear. We dont want any Police Officers hurt by anybody any time. Im from a Law Enforcement family. Thats the last thing anybody wants. Theres something in our country called excessive force. Police have the right to use the force necessary to effect an arrest. In our country, any force beyond that is called excessive. We dont tolerate that in america. Were now in a situation where people are saying if you do anything to a Police Officer, they can kill you. Thats not our country. Thats other countries. I want to Say Something about madison in particular. I was just there six weeks ago, dr. King day. I was there with the governor who was a republican. I was surprised six weeks ago by how tense madison was racially. There was already a group formed young, gifted and black that was demonstrating and talking about Police Misconduct and Police Violence. This is six weeks ago. They already had to pass a law to change the way that these shootings are handled so they are handled now by outside investigators because there was so much concern already about Police Misconduct and Police Violence that yeah. So we already are dealing with a situation where before this individual incident which may have gone one way or the other, we dont know there was a pattern and a practice and a building level of concern. Sure. Its a bigger issue and we even heard the uncle of mr. Robinson to say that. I want you to look at something thats really striking to me van, especially compared to when you think of the Ferguson Police force, predominantly white even though it represents an area thats predominantly black. In madison youve got 80 of the officers is white, 79 of the population is white. You are looking at a much more representative Police Department in this case. Does this impact your assessment about whether race is involved here . Well, it could and it could not. Let me say a couple of things that you see differently from ferguson positively. The mayor came out and was very kind and showed concern and consideration. The police chief showed concern and consideration. Even mr. Palmer who was just on showed concern and consideration. You didnt hear that from ferguson. You didnt hear that from our other guest who frankly said you had the right to kill people . Who said that van . You did. Absolutely not. Theres a need to have a political conversation in this country but we really have to be concerned but when this conversation becomes so political and hijacked this end dangers our police force. Weve got a serious crime problem and people are trying to grandstand and elected officials need to get on board here and be emphatic here. Ferguson reveal we have Serious Problems in the country. Most of them are political failures. Lets be clear. But playing misconduct rhetoric are endangering Police Officers. You put words in your mouth, sir. Youve tried to correct the record. I would like to have an opportunity to speak. Please dont put words in my mouth. This is the kind of attitude. You see the difference between mr. Palmer who was very measured and calm and recognized there was a balance, the balance the need to be respected and also the need for the citizenry to be respected. The problem were having that the dialogue breaks down the minute something says somebody says something they dont like. Can i finish my sentence . We have to protect the police also. Wemt the police to be respected and we want the police to be trusted and we also want the police to be trustworthy and one way that police can earn trust is that when things happens that are horrible tragedies, a young man who is not armed, losing his life. They speak to it as a tragedy. The Community Members need to say the police have a dangerous job. Thank you. You do and my father was a Police Officer and he has a dangerous job. It is certainly a dangerous job. Final word to you eugene. Anybody who thinks dont think we have a serious problem. Are they racial . Unequivocally. No doubt about it. We also have serious crime problems. We have a nation that has a lot of guns and this conversation can dangerously create chief ramsey last week said he visited a cop in emergency room who was shot at and didnt shoot back because he was afraid he would be in the next ferguson. Gentlemen, we will continue this conversation. Its one we need to have. Thank you so much eugene and van. Outfront next president obama distances himself from the Hillary Clinton email controversy. Her camp says that shes ready to talk but is the damage already done and how did the baby survive 14 hours trapped in a car that was submerged in an icy river . Its being called a miracle tonight. Breaking video, it shows the moment of impact during the Boston Marathon bombing. One of accused bombers appears to be watching it all unfold in front of him. Theres a gap out there. Thats keeping you from the healthcare you deserve. At humana, we believe the gap will close when healthcare gets simpler. When frustration and paperwork decrease. 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Hillary clinton appeared on stage four times today, but no mention of her controversial use of only personal email while secretary of state or the private server she keeps it on. There will be no mistakes in my rise to the top if i decide to run, who knows . Saturday night live started its show this weekend with a parody of clinton herself. Those emails are clean as a whistle. This is not how Hillary Clinton goes down. I mean what did you think my email said . Hi its hillary. I really screwed up on benghazi today. Please. So far, though almost a week since the news first broke, Hillary Clinton has only sent a lone tweet saying the state department would release her emails. After her event monday she left the venue in manhattan without answering questions. Secretary clinton, will you explain the emails . Two sources familiar with her plans say she will address the issue soon likely in a press conference heeding calls from fellow democrats. I think she needs to step up and come out and state exactly what the situation is. I think from this point on the server the silence is going to hurt her. The white house is distancing itself from the political firestorm. In an interview with cbs news this week president obama said he was caught off guard. Mr. President , when did you first learn that Hillary Clinton used an email system outside the u. S. Government for official business while she was secretary of state . At the same time everybody else learned it through news reports. Today, White House Press secretary josh earnest clarified the president s comments saying he was actually aware she used a personal email account. The president , as i think many people expected did over the course of his first several years in office trade emails with his secretary of state. He was not aware of the details of how that email address and that server had been set up or how secretary clinton and her team were planning to comply with the federal records act. Out front tonight, former special counsel to president clinton, lanny davis and we have the chief strategist for the Republicans