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CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront June 24, 2015

Burnett. Outfront tonight we begin with breaking news. The boston bomber speaks. For the first time Dzhokhar Tsarnaev directly addressing his victims, saying i am sorry. Tsarnaev apologized saying if theres any lingering doubt, let there be no more. I did do it along with my brother. I am sorry for the lives that ive taken, for the suffering that ive caused you, for the damage that i have done. Irreparable damage. Two bombs planted by Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his brother, tamerlan exploded near the Boston Marathon finish life. Tsarnaev was formally sentenced to death today for killing four people. Three at that finish line and one Police Officer at a college as the tsarnaevs fled. Well be speaking with a survivor of the bombing who was in that room who spoke to tsarnaev today. First i want to start with deb feyerick. Deb, there werent cameras inside the court but you were able to watch as tsarnaev spoke. An incredible moment when you think about it for the first time speaking to victims that were able to speak back. He murdered four people injured more than 160. What did he say . Well it was incredible and it wasnt just what he said its what he didnt say. He spoke in this very thick, almost russian arabic accent. He talked about allah and the prophet muhammad. He said this is a month in which hearts change. But he did apologize to the victims. He said im sorry for the lives i have taken, the suffering i have caused and the damage i have done. And he also as you say, he confessed. Thats what a lot of people were waiting for over these last two years, to hear something that sounded even a little like something that sounded a little like a confession and remorse, and they finally he finally came out with that so it was very very moving. But i spoke to several people afterwards and they just didnt buy it. They just didnt buy it. They said no it was too little too late. There were those who said we forgive him but there were others who say not a chance erin. Deb, to your point, he didnt have an accent before. All of his friends said he had a completely no accent at all. So youre talking about a heavy accent. Exactly. And hes talking about the month of ramadan. Well this happened two years ago. He had two years to feel sorry and now hes citing this particular month of ramadan. What was his demeanor . Did he come off to you as someone who was sorry . Reporter he came off as somebody who had really found religion. Again, you mentioned some of those friends of his who say he never spoke with any sort of an accent whatsoever. He wasnt a particularly religious individual. You know they talk about him hanging out, smoking pot, interacting with women. So he wasnt particularly religious. But the words that we heard today were all couched in that sort of very strict sort of almost praising praising allah, talking about a month of forgiveness and reconciliation. So its not clear whether he did this or would have done this independently or whether in fact it was because of the time that this sentenceing is occurring in. But ill tell you the judge was very strict when he said i sentence you to death by execution and the judge essentially said in order to do what he did, quote, you had to forget your own humanity. So it was really emotional. The people who stood in that court, look some of them their lives are changed. They cant even go outdoors without fearing that something more will happen. But others were much more defiant. Rebecca gregory basically saying you know referring to that image of him in that holding cell when he held up his middle finger she said you know, that smirk, that smile its so funny that you smirk and flip off the camera. I feel that that is what we are doing to you. And then she looked and she said hows that for a victim impact statement . So she made very clear that she is surviving and that she is going to move forward and live her life in a very rich and very full way, erin. Deb, thank you very much. I want to bring outfront now boston bombing survivor scott wies weisberg. He was in the room and Police Officer ed devoe. Both of you were there today. Both of you were face to face with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Scott, let me start with you. You crossed the finish line three seconds before the bombs went off. Tsarnaevs attack will stay with you forever. He said today, quote, i am sorry for the lives that i have taken, for the suffering that i have caused you. Do you accept his apology . No. I dont. When he said it you know i had been through the trial for most of the time. There wasnt much facial expression remorse at all given during the trial. And today even though he said those words, it really didnt mean much to me. I felt they were words that were part of more of a script in terms of maybe to help his appeal process, maybe for some future stuff. But for me and the survivors, we all have these injuries that are lifelong. Theyre not going away. I mean so to all of a sudden say youre sorry for what you did when it was all orchestrated planned, you knew what you were doing, it was well thought out, you were right after the event youre back in school youre partying youre doing things that people that are remorseful just dont do. Chief devoe, were you surprised tsarnaev spoke today . I was very surprised. You know every indication we had was that he was going to remain silent like he had the whole trial. So it was surprising to us. And, scott, you not only heard him, but you spoke to him today as a survivor. And youre talking about the injuries are going to last for the rest of your life. A lot of things that he did to you are going to last for the rest of your life. You talked about how your marriage fell apart after the bombing, how you lost the ability to work as a doctor the way you had before. What impact do you hope your words had on him . I was hoping that my words by letting him realize that what you did to myself and these other survivors with these hidden and invisible injuries is that were going to have to reinvent ourselves. Were changing our lives to learn how to deal with what has happened to us. You changed our lives forever as a result of participating in one of the most Memorable Events in u. S. History. I mean and that is huge. I mean i was there running a dream of my life the Boston Marathon. You know as a result of it im wearing hearing aids i have a brain injury i have ptsd as well as you know im grateful to be here i have three kids. But all of the things that have occurred since then and that im still dealing with and i will continue to deal with theyre not going away. And that is a result of april 15th 2013. Chief devoe, you know tsarnaev tried to make the case today that the trial had an impact on him personally which is hard for pretty much anyone to symptom ktomach. He said immediately after the bombing i learned some of the victims names, their faces, their ages. They had burdened souls. Now all those who got up on the witness stand, that podium related to us and to me. I was listening. The suffering that was, the hardship that still is with strength and with patience and with dignity. Do you believe him . No not for a minute. I dont. It was too little too late. Some of those comments what you just read erin you know if he really did feel the remorse after he saw the damage he did, which he tried to tell us today in court, the bombings happened on monday. There was tuesday, wednesday, thursday. Shawn collier was killed thursday night. If he truly meant what he said today, shawn would be alive today. The manhunt, the shootout in watertown, dick donahue almost losing his life battling the streets of watertown wouldnt have happened. So i dont really he didnt say much to me that got to my attention. He spoke, you know and had some things but he talked more about allah than he did about the victims and the survivors. And i think thats to me and to my officers today is all about the survivors. We watched them. Theyre friends of ours now. Weve interacted with them. Theyre the courageous people. You saw that as it came through. All right. Well chief devoe, scott, thank you both very much. The judge ended today saying whenever your name will be mentioned what will be remembered is the evil you have done when he spoke to Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Thanks to both of you. Outfront next breaking news. A new clue. A bloody sock found in the hunt for two convicted killers. My guest, an inmate knew both men and Joyce Mitchell. Plus we found a place where the Confederate Flag was banned but a noose was found on public display. A special report outfront from ole miss. And the racist group that inspired the charleston shooter doesnt pay taxes, and its perfectly legal. The goodness that goes into making a power kale chicken caesar salad is rivaled only, by the goodness felt while eating one. Panera. Food as it should be. Breaking news tonight. New leads in the manhunt for two convicted killers on the run. Law enforcement officials expanding the search investigating new clues, including this. A bloody sock left behind in a cabin where the killers likely fled saturday. The search area now is 75 square miles in upstate new york. Its rugged terrain, mountainous, its right near the Canadian Border and now the attorney for the woman at the center of the investigation, the one who confessed to putting hacksaw blades in frozen meat is telling cnn that his client Joyce Mitchell never had sexual relations with the men. Jason carroll is outfront in cadyville, new york. Jason, theyre at the correctional facility right now, at the actual prison right now, how come . Reporter well thats because you have investigators from the new york state inspector generals office. They are there looking for more information to try and find out exactly where the Security Breach took place. Theyre going to be looking at visitor logs other documents as well. Also trying to find out if richard matt gave any of his paintings to anyone else there at the prison. All this as the intense manhunt enters its third week. The search perimeter, nearly 75 square miles of rural, dense terrain, 1,000 people helicopters and allterrain vehicles but the focus still on an area immediately surrounding that hunting cabin in Mountain View and a report from a witness who says he saw a man running from his hunting cabin. We have virtually 100 assurance that they were in that area. I believe that they were at that point last seen as of 10 30 a. M. On saturday morning. Reporter despite david sweat and richard matt avoiding capture for 19 days there are clues that could help investigators learn more about the escaped killers physical condition. There are numerous items we recovered from the cabin. Although i cant specify what those items were we have no definitive information to reveal that someone was injured. Lets face it, a bloody sock could mean somebody could have a blister or it could mean a lot worse. Im hoping for the best. Reporter as the search intensifies, so too does the investigation into the inmates escape. Joyce mitchell the prison worker now under arrest for her alleged role admitting she stuffed hacksaw blades and other items into a large frozen slab of hamburger meat. Mitchell then allegedly convinced a guard at the facility gene palmer to pass it on to richard matt. Palmers Attorney Says his client had no knowledge there was anything inside the meat. As for mitchells relationship with the escaped inmates, her attorney again denies it. She has indicated to me and to my knowledge to the police that she never had sexual relations with david sweat. Thats all im going to comment on because she has indicated that i believe on multiple occasions. Denied that on multiple occasions. And richard matt did she mention anything at all im not going to get into richard matt. Reporter her attorney also saying he is reviewing 20 hours of interviews mitchell has given to police. What is she seemingly what has she admitted to at this point . Im not going to comment on on that. Thats something that shes talked to the police. She may be in a position to continue to give help assistance to them and i dont want to be in a position of harming her plea bargaining opportunities. Reporter and notice erin there he said plea bargain. No word from the District Attorney whether or not a plea deal is even under consideration or on the table. Erin. All right, obviously theyre hoping so. Thanks so much to you, jason. Joining me outfront now, eric jensen a former inmate at the clinton correctional facility. He served nine months there until march of 2012. So what that means is that he worked with david sweat and richard matt in the tailor shop which was supervised by Joyce Mitchell so he knew all three people at the core of this story. Eric thank you for being with me. So you worked with matt and sweat, you were in this tailor shop. You knew Joyce Mitchell. I did. So you knew all of these people. What were their interactions like with her . Their interactions with her were like they knew her forever, like they were best friends. Like they knew each other prior to coming to prison thats how close they were. When they intermingled it was always a long conversation. Not just like a hi and bye. Different than with anyone else . Of course of course. And how did she respond to them . She responded to them with david, for example, she brought him tattoo supplies art supplies food special food you cant get inside the prison things like that. So you think the relationship she had with david sweat was the closer of the two . I believe so at that time. But this was also three years ago so things could have changed. Right, right, right. Now, in the tailor shop where you were. Yes. What was the situation like . Would they have been able to spend time alone . Yes. Her and david sweat . Yes. At the end of the each day youve got to count the garments. The garments are either the pants theyre called state greens what the inmates wear in all facilities in new york state. Now, when we make the greens theres a quota that has has been made at the end of the day. Or at the end of the week. At the end of the day well count and see how much more you have to produce. You get bonuses and stuff like that on your paycheck if you complete more. At the end of the day theyll go in and count these. Its a storeroom. So she would count with david sweat is what youre saying happened. He was the head of the tailor shop as like as high as an inmate worker you can get in there. So her attorney you just heard talking to her reporter said joyce never had sexual relations with david sweat. Right. Based on your impression as someone who was in that tailor shop when they were there, do you believe that . My impression is yes, from the dealings and interactions and just from what i youre saying yes that they did have sexual relations. Yes, especially from what you hear and see now about her sneaking escape tools in frozen meat. You wont do that for somebody that youre just friends with. I mean willing to throw your life away with you know what i mean because thats all in right there. So the Governors Office has released a picture of the manhole where sweat and matt apparently came out. Yes. You can see the manhole in relation to the prison its very nearby. Youre saying having been in the tailor shop that you can actually from this picture, so you see andrew cuomo the governor looking at the manhole, you see the prison in the background. You can see the tailor shop. So if you were in the tailor shop you can see the manhole . Yes, you can. You can see all those streets, you can see the little town. You can see down i believe route 374, correct me if im wrong, but its the road that runs parallel to the jail and the other ones that run down towards the power plant. So you can see sort of a map of the town. Pretty much. From the tailor shop. Its a small town. You can see a lot of it. So what was your impression of the two inmates . Were you social with them . Were they social with others . Me and david, we actually worked out together a couple of times. You and david sweat . Yes. We played chess. We compared artwork. He was very ingttricate with his artwork. I used to do tattoos and draw a lot so we would go down to the tailor shop and show each other our work. Did he ever talk about Joyce Mitchell . No. Never talked about her as like anything other than what she was, a civilian employee. I appreciate your time. Thank you very much, eric. Youre very welcome. Joining me now, Sergeant Joseph jackalone. Good to have you with us sergeant. A Quick Reaction to what eric had to say. He said it was clear that Joyce Mitchell was close to those inmates more so than anyone else this was a few years ago when he knew them. It seems from his telling that this has been going on for quite some time and no one seemed to really pick it up. Usually the outsiders are the ones that pick it up. The couples think theyre being secretive but it seems as if everybody else knows but them. Now, theres been no confirmed citing of the two escaped killers since saturday. But now we do have this new clue a bloody sock that theyre saying possibly could be there. And theyre saying virtually 100 assurance that the men were there in that cabin in that area. Do you think that last sighting is for real . Do you think that theyre really nearby at this time or no . Yeah they have to be within that area at this point. I mean theyre not going to get too far away especially if it was one of them that was running from the cabin. You know the issue it comes down to what im concerned about is the firearms and maybe these camouflage clothing thats helping them hide during the day and might be another good reason why we cant find them. They also believe that they could have multiple weapons and ammunition they could have taken from those cabins. Its very standard for those cabin to be equipped in that way in that part of the country. Do you think they could have talked about the canadian board border . It is right up there at the Canadian Border. Yeah i think theyll stay away from the Canadian Border. Its probably too hot. Originally probably Law Enforcement was going to be putting all their assets up there thinking that they were going to go to canada. So i think theyre going to be hiding in and around in the area trying to get out, maybe back to maybe pennsylvania or even

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