This is the third in school this year in 2018. You see chaos. Terrified students hands on heads running to safety. Twriet enned parents rushing to the School Waiting for word on their children, are they dead oral live. And watching, as you see here, heavily armed s. W. A. T. Teams, Armored Vehicles surrounding Douglas High School in parkland, florida. Just before the end of the school day when the fire alarm went off and that is when they say the shooting started. I heard screaming. I heard about five, six gunshots. We thought they were firecrackers because they sounded like them. We werent sure what was used. And we heard the police yelling. Heard banking on the doors. Its in sane. Its unnecessary. There is no words to describe how i feel right now. I was shaking. I was panicking. It was all out panic at the school. Panic. School quickly put on lock down. This picture from student huddled on the floor after hearing shot after shot. Police say the shots fired from both inside and outside the school. The victims both students and adults. Many students hiding in their classrooms, in closets for more than an hour until authorities were table to track the gunman down. Law enforcement sources tell cnn the man that you see here is the suspected shooter. Handcuffed in police custody. His name nicolas cruz. We are told he was taken without incident at the high school. President trump tweeting shortly after, quote, my prayers and condolences to the families and vic ems of the terrible florida shooting. No child teacher or anyone else should feel unsafe in american school. It is the kind of official response weve heard after each of these deadly shootings. Rosa flores is outfront. What are you learning in the last hour about what authorities know about the shooter and the shooting tonight . Reporter you know, at this hour, jim, we are learning a bomb squad is going through the school. The school is a very big building. Portable buildings as well. So they are doing this as precautionary measure. This is after four to five s. W. A. T. Teams swept the entire building to make sure that the building was safe, the bomb squad now inside. And we are told once that happens, then the medical examiner will get access and Law Enforcement will begin to process the scene. But we are learning a few more details about the shooting from the sheriff from broward county. He says the shooting actually started outside the building. That the shooter moved inside, leaving behind a deadly trail. We know that 17 people are dead. 12 people dead inside. And as you mentioned earlier, the intense moments where students were trying to communicate with their parents and parents were trying to do the same. And add min straight ors and teachers were trying to keep calm and peace inside that building so that students could be safe. The dramatic moments, of course, were exchanged through Text Messages with parents as parents didnt want to call students because they were afraid and they wanted to make sure they could communicate with them in ha safely manner. Again, at this hour, investigators here telling us that this scene will be processed, it will take time, jim, as you know. Its pain staking. And of course extremely graphic and painful for those investigators that will have to go through that school room by room as the deadly trail from the sus secretary was left behind. And for the parents certainly parents tonight getting word their children did not survive. That was rosa flores live at the shooting. Alleged gunman described as nicolas cruz in police custody. Working Law Enforcement sources. Symone, what do we know about the suspect . There were warnings prior to the shooting. Thats right. There were warnings, certainly from students who have talked to reporters at the scene who have said that they warned, that they knew that this would happen, they all talked about that he liked guns, this shooter, so wellknown to the students. Other thing here, we learned a lot, jim, when you think about it. In the press conference sheriff held a short time ago, we learned that the shooter here, nicolas cruz had extensive social media presence. The sheriff didnt really go into a lot of detail about that social media preference, but we learned that there were things on his social media that concerned them. And he sort of talked about that. We also have learned obviously his age. We learned he was expelled from the school about a year ago or so for disciplinary problems. We dont know exactly what those issues are. Obviously there is still a lot of things we dont know. But these Little Things that we do now know from the police, from the sheriff are going to be key in this investigation. And its going to play an important part. And also giving us a kind of window into perhaps what was going on with this young man who seemingly by all accounts was known to students at the school. So the question really now becomes is what people knew, when did they know it, and why didnt they report it. Because it certainly seems when his name was thrown around, that he was possibly the shooter. People were not surprised. Also learning about the weapon, and sadly the kind of weapon we see used so often in Mass Shootings like that. Yeah, we are learning and i want to be careful here. Because these ar15 told its an ar15 style weapon used here. Large capacity, can fire a lot of rounds. We know that this type of weapon has been used in other shootings. We have talked about this weapon. We have talked about how shooters can access this weapon. And its been used in several Mass Shootings. The police, the atf now are tracing the weapon. Serial number perhaps on it they can now trace to try to find out exactly how he came into contact with this weapon, whether purchased by him, whether someone purchased it for him. And thats all going to factor into this investigation. But like i said, jim, by all accounts it seems that students at the school were aware. This is a high school. That students there were very much aware that he was into guns. Thanks very much. Outfront now well go to one of the Young Students who experienced this shooting today. 17yearold student at the high school. Ma sill, first let me ask you how are you doing tonight . Im doing okay. Still shaken up. Im sure you are. I can only imagine. Tell us if you can, and i know this will be difficult to the recount, but tell us what you saw, what you experienced there as this happened this afternoon. Well, it was a second fire alarm that went off today around 2 22 and we were suspicious because we already had a fire alarm drill going off, so we werent sure if this was real or not. So apparently the shooter pulled the alarm so he could have kids in the hallway to shoot. I was on the top floor, right below me on the first floor i heard shooting and saw two guys running, i wasnt sure what it was, then i heard it again, thats when me and a grou of people ran downstairs, and i could tell he was on my left side because thats where i heard the gunshots from, and it was very loud. Then i went to make a right and i just ran, and i had my back bag on my back, just in case i got shot, it would go through my books, i ran to where there was students and teachers, and and we went out, then from there i knew it was a real shooting and i saw three helicopters thats when everyone was all for themselves and i jumped the fence and ran with my book bag on and everything. And i was in front of westerly for about 20 minutes, then after that we got escorted to walmart which is right next to the westerly middle school. Then as i was walking literally a few feet from me i see cops, and i see a kid in handcuffs, i guess that thats one of the suspects. Is needless to say i was in danger two different times. And my mom was across the street trying to get me, but the cops had us on the floor for about 20 minutes, and my mom was waiting for me. And i was with a group of kids. And i didnt know. I didnt know if any one of them were shooters or not. So i felt very uncomfortable because anybody could be a shooter. Oh, god, of course you would. And i have to tell you this is difficult and painful to recount again so if you want to stop at any time just tell me there is no need. I would ask, though, if you can, what was it like when you saw your mom . Well, i was just well, another thing that happened was on my way out of west, my phone had died, so i couldnt really contact her. But i found a friend and used her friend and contacting my mom back and forth with her. And i knew she was right across the street. And i saw her walking and i saw her there for about five minutes as cops were taking down my name and stuff. And then after that, she just came to me and she just hugged me and stuff. And it was just like i knew i was safe but like i still didnt feel safe because there was a whole bunch of other kids around me, which easily could have been shooters. So i was just paranoid, but happy at the same time. How in gods name would you know. How are you doing . Are you okay to keep going . You just tell me. Yeah, im fine. Im fine. As you were there, confusion, i would imagine, because i know a the lo of students were saying earliner the day you had a fire drill, right . Yes. Then the fire alarm goes off again, so like you said you dont know if this is another fire drill. How did you figure that out . Were there folks there telling you what to do as this was happening . Basically a month hag we ht faculty and like teachers, they had a paper code red, black, saying if this happened what to do. So basically we went over a code red, which is gun on campus, we went over that about a month ago, and there were rumors going around the school there would be a fake shooting to see how the students would prepare for it and stuff like that. So when we first heard the two gunshots nobody did anything because we thought that was a drill, you know. Yeah. And then i just saw people running, then i heard it again. And got louder and louder. And thats when i just ran downstairs. And i could tell he was like right around the corner because it was very loud and i heard shooting and ran opposite. I know it has to be confusing in that situation to distinguish what it was. A lot of people havent heard gunshots. You must not have heard when you first heard the shounds. At first i heard it i didnt know what it was. I was still puzzled. And i heard four more shots. I was like okay i dont care if this is fake or not, im going, im leaving, you know. You did the right thing. Ill tell you, you did the right thing. Im so glad you are safe. Im sure your glad is as well. Im sure you are reaching out to classmates to make sure everybody is safe. Yeah. There is still people texting me right now if im okay. Im a new student at that school. I transferred my senior year. And i had all my old school seeing if i was okay. And, you no he, im texting all my friends from the school seeing if they are okay. And so far everyone who i know is okay. Except for one of my favorite security guards got shot. Im not sure if he is living or not. Oh, goodness, we are sorry to hear that. I just want to say we are thinking about you tonight. Please take care of yourself. Im sure your mom is going to be hugging you tonight. But thanks so much for taking the time to tell the story. Yes, thank you. Just a harrowing account. Outfront now, we have a lot of folks who dealt with this kind of thing report. We have chris former fbi director for the criminal investigative direction. We have julia chyme depth of Homeland Security. Also Jason Campbell was with the fbi until recently. Darren porch erie tired lieutenant with the new york police department. And former secret Service Agent for president obama. Darren, if i could begin with you, you were on the nypd, i imagine you dealt with shootings in this city before, and helping deal school for this kind of thing. Shooting in schools is more aberration than the norm in place like new york city. I did my doctor rawl at the university. And even as young lady mentioned rural rural colorado in the theater, they thought it was a drill. But going back to this particular story, what happens here with schools, schools are a place of peace, they are not ha police of war. So how do we properly fortify our schools but at the same token not line the perimeter with tanks . One of the things we have to take into consideration, this was a person that had a known problem, a known history with that school. Therefore, this should have addressed a harbinger for violence with this particular person. Generally speaking, when i look at School Security, it should be internal and external. Internal you have people at the doors, inside the facility. External, just to make sure that the place is the way it should be. Now, why a lock down didnt occur to me is really surprising . Because shooting started externally. The people at the door should have immediately locked those doors and prevented him from coming in. Because school doors traditionally are very thick. And this somebody that was in possession of an ar15 assault weapon. Its a civilian equivalent to weapons soldiers use in iraq and afghanistan. This was something on the streets that entered our school system. So what could they have put in play. And the mean thing, key focus i have is they should have locked those doors down and prevented him from coming inside. Well, chris, if i could talk to you. You heard just from the poor girl we were just speaking to then she had heard that one of the security guards was shot, perhaps that was in the initial exchange of fire, we dont know. I do know weve spoken to witnesses who said teachers did lock the doors to rooms, hid kids in closets, ive often heard, you often hear that rules about run, hide, fight, when you are in a situation like this. But based on what weve heard again, just piecing together incomplete details at this point, but have you heard something thats worried you about preparations or prevention or reaction to a shooting like this . Well, not enough information at this point, jim. I mean, that school, like every school in the country, has a lockdown policy, and you know thats evolved over the years. It is run, hide, fight. I this i we put not enough emphasis. I think we are a trade to talk about going in the offense in these situations, because when you get 17 casualties thats a turkey shoot, its in discriminate firing at his leisure. But what jumps out at me really, jim, is the pointed statement that sheriff israel made about lt Early Warning system. The people that are closest to this active shooter and we see this time and time again, they are flashing red, they are showing signs, they are posting. Ive seen this persons posts on social media, and that should have at least resulted in a restraining order by the school against this kid and extra precushions just to keep him off the campus. This guy had no business having an ar15. I want to get to that. We just have coming in now, a reaction from florida senator marco rubio just tweeted the following, quote, just finished update from fed authorities on Florida School shooting it is clear design was designed and executed to maximize the loss of life. Josh campbell, if i could go to you, you hear about that, for instance this account that he pulled the fire alarm to get people out into the hall ways coming out of exists. Carried a gun. Police say he had multiple magazines. Sounds like he was prepared to kill as many as possible. Sure does. And speaks to the chaos of the situation. Let me start, jim, by commending you for the way you conducted interview there with maisal, a victim, type of interview was the way fbi would treat someone to gather information, what happened. And you have to do it delicately. I think her story shows us two things. First thing being chaos. In a situation like this where we heard earlier rortsds covering this story now for quite a while, the initial reports were that there was a fire alarm that was going off so students thought maybe we are supposed to eggs it. Then there was a lockdown order so maybe they stay where we are. Complete chaos. Then second thing just as important, her story shows the numbers we are seeing, and i hope they dont continue to rise, the numbers of victims, thats just one number. There are also countless emotional victims out there also going to require support from Law Enforcement and community. Just shows us how tragic these swangss are. We heard on the phone 17yearold girl thinking about all that she witnessed today go to sleep tonight. Julia, if i could go to you, after violent insurance dernts like this, you do hear of some warning signs. In this case we hear of troubling disturbing posts on social media. We understand this student was disciplined from the school, possibly kicked out before. There was some warnings about him. So you might say well then why wasnt he stopped . But i imagine there are a lot of kids who might have warning along those lines who dont go this far. How do you make judgments . You are with the department of Homeland Security how do you recommend schools make judgments like this . Well, i think what you have to do, because there was more than just warnings in this case, at least what we are finding out so far, and im sure well find out more, this was a sire wren going off both publicly and obviously probably within his family and community. So part of it is empowering community and family members to feel confident in speaking out about the potential of violence of this person. There is a lot of shame, concern, or maybe they have been ostracized from the family. Its the familys problem. I hate to admit that. Because if the family does not take care of it and does not understand whats going on and propensity for violence, look at what happens, it extends past the family. We saw this in columbine. It was a case of a man with a lot of issues with his mother. Thats what it was. And so part of this is just people feeling empowered to Say Something is terribly wrong here. And then on the school side, we are going to learn a lot, and im absolutely losing it tonight, jim, i mean, im so sick of this. I cannot tell you. And i have kids in high school in urban public high school. So the school had sufficient sort of knowledge and for whatever reason they didnt feel empowered. The Law Enforcement wasnt giving them enough resources. So there was two sort of data points here, right. You sort of have the potential victims sort of wanted the school to, needed the school to pay more attention, and then the family. Im with you. You are a parent. But its difficult to watch. Sick of it. Seguin and again. Jonathan, the weapon ar15, as it was happening, first question that popped into my mi