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CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront August 13, 2018

Hypocrisy. President trump over the course of nearly three hours spent four tweet. From the most powerful leader on earth slamming an exadviser. While that adviser Omarosa Manigault newman calling her whacky, vicious, not smart, a loser, nothing but problems, a low life, someone who missed work and meetings. Im selectively picking. He went on and on. Thats on top of saying this. Do you feel betrayed by om omarosa, sir . Low life. Shes a low life. Okay. We heard you. Low life. Okay. Never mine the president s spending his time with this sort of personal nastiness. How about this . Because this is the bottom line. He hired omarosa. He paid her with taxpayer money. The top salary level in the white house which is 179,700 a year. And when she was fired by john kelly for, quote, pretty serious integrity violations, Trumps Campaign then offered her 15,000 a month through the year 2020 according to the Washington Post. Whoa. Why was trump paying someone who is not smart, a loser and a low life to work for him in the white house and for his campaign . Lets be clear, doing that with american taxpayer money and a lot of it. Was it her public taunting of him . Every critic, every detractor will have to bow down to President Trump. So no woman problem for him, do you think . You know what . Donald trump has an authentic problem. Hes too really for the republican party. We like to hear that. Those immensely flattering comments certainly seemed to impress him in the past because the president has publicly praised omarosa again and again and again. Omarosa, whos actually a very nice person but i dont want to say that, because ill destroy her image by saying that. Shes actually a very, very fine person and a pastor. Omarosa is a wonderful woman. You are amazing, okay, and i just want to thank you so much for everything you did. She worked so hard. I like omarosa. Omarosa is a good person. Okay. A good person who works so hard. Pardon me for being slightly confused. The tweet today that said she was a low life and not smart and missing meetings, was it true . Theres one thing we know tonight. If what trump is saying in his tirade is the truth, his words from the campaign trails were lied. His willingness to look the other way to pay omarosa with Campaign Donor money, not his own, yours, raises serious questions. Abby phillip is out front. The president was hoping this fight with omarosa would go away but President Trump himself is making sure that does not happen. Absolutely, erin. The president pouring fuel on this fire with a former aide that frankly he made famous. He both made her famous during the apprentice years and then hired her on the campaign and brought her in the house. Now this has become a disagreement with her making bombshell claims about the president in her book and going on a media tour to expound on them. The president responding to her this morning after spending really eight months not really saying a whole lot. She left the white house having been fired in december. Then went on big brother and began talking about President Trump. The president really said nothing. It was extraordinary. A lot of people wondered what it would take. Now we know. Now we know that these claims, these latest claims that omarosa has made which include some claims about the president s own ability to do his job, recordings of him in conversations with her, recordings of others in the white house, they really have led to so many questions, both about concrete questions about national security. But also about what else is out there. I think thatsthe question right now that a lot of white house aides are facing head on. Theres a sense of paranoia here in the building as they wonder what else does she have taped and how did she get away with it for so long. Abby, thank you very much. I would hope they have some paranoia about each other. Everybody seems to tape whatever they want, violate all kinds of protocol. Its shocking. I want to go to mark and patrick healy. Patrick, we have these four tweets over about three hours about omarosa by the president of the united states. This is what he chose to spend that time doing today. He came up with lots of descriptions. Whacky, vicious, not smart, loser, nothing but problems, low life. I can go on and on. I mean, its extraordinary, because President Trump was the only person in the white house who wanted omarosa there. She was there because he believed that she could bring some, you know, some kind of value to his inner circle. I think he really liked the flattery. We know that about President Trump, that he felt like he likes people when they go on tv and they say things like he has an authenticity problem. I mean, a, it doesnt make sense, but b, its the kind of thing that he loves to hear that sort of flattery about himself. He cannot simply write off omarosa and what shes saying by president ial tweet after tweet. He basically own this is problem. He empowered her. He flattered her. He kept her around. And now shes doing what i think a lot of us knew was coming. Shes clearly cashing in on this. But to raise the question what else does she have taped and how does that happen in a white house where an aide who, you know, only the president really want there is is secretly taping his own advisers . Mark, how does that happen . Are you shocked to hear she was sitting in there, you know, you obviously worked there as well, recording random conversations . It is shocking and disappointing. Not only does it violate a trust with the president , but it violates the trust amongst the staff. If you have to worry about these things, you cant have open candid conversations and the give and take that is required as youre dealing with some of these very challenging issues not only domestically but around the world. If the staff cant speak free will amongst each other to work out and make the best suggestions possible to the leader, then youre doing a disservice to the leader and ultimately in this case to the country. I want to ask you about it, marc. The president saying she signed an nda. The Washington Post has a copy of the nda she was asked to sign. Look, the ethics under president obama said no one in the Obama Administration signed ndas. The former white House Counsel said people didnt sign them. Would an nda, if she had one, be enforceable . I think if it covered the time while she worked for President Trump in the white house i predict it would be enforceable. We dont want to put handcuffs on the people who work in government to prevent them from speaking to members of congress, to the media if necessary. Its not done. And also just to be clear, you work for the american people. Its not a dictatorship, right . You work for the american people. The president s saying that she signed a nondisclosure agreement. Kellyanne conway is saying others who work in the west wing also did so. You worked there. You now work for trump 2020. Have you signed one . Ive signed many going back to the 2016 campaign, going through the transition, and one of the first things that happened when i left the white house in october and moved over to the political side was i signed a nondisclosure agreement. I actually looked over the weekend and compared the language that had been reported from obama from omarosas and mine and they look to be identical. So this is not hush money because this is not a an attempt to keep someone quiet. I can tell you from my fact that they dont want me to be quiet. They brought me out here so i could speak more. Yes, if you say good things about them. If you came out and said i want to tell you about the tanning bed or the things that she is alleging without proof i want to add, they would have a problem with that. Lets just be honest, right . The nondisclosure agreement covers speaking disparagingly about the personal side of your interactions with the principles on the campaign. But you signed one. You dont when youre in the white house, you dont work for him. You work for us. The ndas im talking about are the ones i signed on the campaign. Those are the one, and i dont know if omarosa signed one from the 2016 campaign. Did you sign one in the white house . I believe i did, yes. And you dont have a problem with a personal loyalty to trump overall . I have a sense of loyalty to any elected official i work with but i would keep our private conversations private and that way they can trust my counsel. Then my job is to in this case as a spokesperson and i go out when the Decision Maker makes the decision, when the elected official makes that decision, ill go out and i will say the things that need to be said on behalf of our administration. Go ahead, patrick. I just dont know why the taxpayers of this country would want to be paying money to Fund Government salaries of employees who work for them but have signed a nondisclosure disagreement for a president whos operating like this is a business. Like this is part of trump, inc. , where basically he decides what the employee gets to disclose or not disclose be it on congress, the media, or anybody else. Thats not how this is supposed to work. And beyond that with omarosa, the idea that the Trump Campaign may be giving 15,000 a month to an employee, lets say like an omarosa, if she had been brought on, and signing an nda, it looks like hush money. It has that sort of feel about it. I dont understand what that money would be like for omarosa if she is sort of a low life or these other words that President Trump used. Why even think about giving her money . Lets remember here, when she first departed the white house, the for next day she went on National Television and said she resigned. She praised the president s leadership. She said he is not a racist. So what has changed here in the last eight months is omarosas story because shes now trying to sell a book. If she had continued on with the campaign, then she could have marc, youre completely right, her story has changed, but so has his, right . I played him saying all these incredibly kind things about her, right . And now shes a whacky loser low life. So he was either lying then or hes lying now too. Well, i think what were seeing now is that omarosa was not going to honor the loyalty that President Trump has shown her over the course of 15 years or to the longstanding tradition of not violating that confidence when youre having those interactions between Staff Members or between the principles, whether that be the president or any level of elected official. She has now decided that shes going to throwaway that and say everything that she thinks in some cases making up. Which may be true, but again, im pointing out he lied then or he lied now. Thats all im saying. He said one thing then and hes saying a completely different thing now. When it comes to this issue, the nondisclosure, marc is saying he didnt have a problem but at some point if he had something he wanted to say that was negative, youre saying you dont think the nba would be upheld because the person does not swear to the they swear to the american people. I think thats right. If he had something important to say, even if it was disparaging to the president , we wouldnt want to have a contract that says he couldnt march into the office lets say of a member of Congress Without a subpoena, without being compelled and say theres something going on at the white house that you need to know about. This contract could be read to prevent that and so i think the judge would decline to read it that way and would allow someone in marcs position to speak to whoever he needed to speak to about something that was important. Even if it despaisparaged him. Roger stone claims he has new evidence that the government was spying on him. What is his proof . Roger stone is my guess next. And peter strzok, the fbi agent who wrote antitrump Text Messages. He was fired. And serious security concerns being questioned after a baggage handler stole an airplane, a passenger airplane. Okay we need to get all your School Supplies today. School. Grade. Done. Done. 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Game hog champion. Introducing e trade personalized investments professionally managed portfolios customized to help meet your financial goals. Youll know what youre invested in and how its performing. So you can spend more Time Floating about on your inflatable swan. [ding] trump can onfidant roger st claims the government is spying on him. Stone saying a whistle blower told his lawyer there was a fisa application to surveil him. The walls seem to be closing in on stone in the Mueller Investigation. At least five Stone Associates have been subpoenaed by the special counsel. Stone himself of course at this point as far as we know, well see if this changes in the next few seconds, but has not. Roger stone, political adviser to the president , roger, good to have you with me. I appreciate your time tonight. I was reading your article that you wrote and you said that you got this whistle blower who has informed your lawyers that your name is in the carter page fisa application and that it was clear in there that there was a fisa application to surveil you. Have you actually seen that fisa warrant . Are you sure that it exists . Well, first of all, the new york times, the newspaper of record as you know, erin, report t report ted this on page onen a story that said that carter page, roger stone and Paul Manafort were all subject to fisa warrants. A whistle blower has told my attorneys that this was referred to in the redacted portion of the fisa application for carter page and cline also reported it from a separate source in his book. I believe it to be true. Obviously we would explore this if there is any effort to bring a bogus charge against me. I believe on the basis of many of the questions that lawyers for those who have gone to the grand jury and lawyers for those who have been questioned tell my attorneys that on the basis of questions that are asked, its apparent that my email, my Text Messages and my phone calls have been breached. So thats what those have been questioned. Theres five of them. One of them was your friend Kristen Davis who testified before the grand jury, muellers grand jury on friday. Have you had a chance to speak about what exactly she was asked . Well, at this juncture we are communicating through our attorneys because i dont want there to be any inference that i have in any way tampered with witnesses. But based on what we can learn, friday was kind of like the deep state trifecta. In one day, Kristen Davis, longtime associate of mine, someone for whom i have extraordinarily high regard, in fact, im the godfather to her son, testified before the grand jury. My longtime traveling aide Andrew Miller was held in contempt because of his refusal to testify. Were all the questions she was asked, though, Kristen Davis, were they all about you . Because you had referenced that those who have been questioned, theyre making it clear that they think that the feds were in possession of, right, your texts, your emails. Was she also under that impression from what your lawyers have communicated . Yes, i think thats fair to say. The point of course of this is that there is no evidence and there is no witness who can testify truthfully to say that i either colluded with the russians, collaborated or was involved in any other illegal activity in connection with the 2016 election. So Kristen Davis as you point out, right, not the first person to go in front of the grand jury. Five total, Andrew Miller, you mentioned another one, sam nunberg, michael caputo, your pan to the wikileaks founder Julian Julian assange. All of them are on there. Youre the un named american mentioned of five russian intelligence officers. Why, roger, do you think muellers interest in you has seemed to grow . Its person after person after person all of whom have one thing in common and that is they are associates of yours. Because this is a politically motivated investigation. Because i am the conservatives that liberals unfortunately love to hate because i think i was very effective in my advocacy and my efforts to elect donald trump. But at the same time, and not all of those people have testified yet, but none of those individuals have any evidence or proof or can say truthfully that i was involved in russian collusion, again, any trafficking of allegedly hacked emails with wikileaks or any other illegality pertaining to the 2016 election. That is a dead end. If the government wants to bring a charge without evidence, thats certainly possible. I think we understand that a slick prosecutor can mislead a grand jury to indict the p proverbial ham sandwich. Youve seen bob mueller do with your former associate Paul Manafort. Before i ask y

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