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CNNW Fareed Zakaria GPS March 29, 2020

Infertile women who cant have a child, cant carry a child biologically from having a surrogate, it would stop lgbtq couples from having a child, which is wholly ironic to me as this is the state that first passed marriage equality. Now you say to the couple who you said you can get married, but you cant have a family, because you cant have a child, makes no sense to me. But those are the main discussions. Lets go to work, guys, i have to go. Thank you. Governor andrew cuomo of new york discussing a number of things from antisemitism to discrimination. Then he vented his frustration over the recent 2 trillion stimulus bill, now law, from the federal government, saying that help from washington never came to states who got no money for lost revenue. And he had a response for House Speaker nancy pelosi, who told our jake tapper earlier today that that kind of assistance may come in the next bill. He wasnt too happy about that. But on coronavirus, he covered a lot. Cuomo trying to inform, allay fears and promote calm. His state of course having the most cases, confirmed cases of coronavirus and deaths, the latest numbers, 59,000 and counting cases. More than 965 deaths. Governor cuomo reiterating that there isnt a lockdown in place in new york, but a stay in place, unless you are an essential worker. He also just responded that thousands more people, large alarmingly, he said, would pass away until they pass the curve. Yesterday he mentioned he thought the apex would be reached in 14 to 21 days. Now he says its a rolling curve, it could come at any moment. Ive got a great panel with me, joining me, dr. Esther chu, an associate professor at Oregon Health and science university. Dr. Carlos del rio, professor and chair of the department of Global Health at emory university. And cnn chief media correspondent and anchor of reliable sources, brian stelter. Cnns Kristen Holmes it at the white house, well get to her in a moment. Brian, to you first, Governor Cuomo trying to pacify, at the same time inform. But hes also being a realist, saying this country is fighting a virus, at the same time fighting fear. Its incredible, the leadership were seeing from governors including andrew cuomo, trying to explain to the country whats about to happen, because as we see, the disturbing data on the corner of the screen showing us that the case county and the death toll. Cuomo and other governors are telling us this is going to get worse but we can get through it together. If you looked at the words cuomo put on the screen during his presser, words like strength and stability, hes trying to reassure people that many, many people who get sick will survive this and get through it. Hes trying to free up the hospitals to take care of as many people as possible. Hes trying to give a calming message that makes new yorkers and people around the country feel better and more confident. We are still not seeing cuomostyle briefings from the federal government. We know the white house is watching cuomo very carefully and learning from him. I think its important that the federal government be saying the same things that cuomo is. We are starting to see that from dr. Deborah birx and others, saying every metro area in the country, every city will be affected. Frankly, fred, were already seeing that. This already is spreading in all 50 states. But the federal government messaging needs to be more like the state messaging. Here are the numbers so far, more than 130,000 coronavirus cases across the country. More than 2,298 deaths. Were talking about 50 states, washington, d. C. , and u. S. Territories. Dr. Chu, you heard from andrew cuomo, while hes trying to pacify, calm people, even give advice about how to find joy in all of this, in response to fear in so many households, he also still reiterated that thousands more people will pass away until after the curve. So help people understand what he means by the curve. Is he talking about that apex . Thats how he described it earlier, that there will be more cases in the coming weeks and its only until after that, that would be passing the curve . Yeah, our estimates of how bad its going to get are really theyre a moving target, and theyre best guesses, because as you know, weve gotten so far behind in testing. And even the numbers that we have rely on testing that were not applying evenly over the population. I mean, we really are still testing the sickest patients. Most of the people we test are in hospitals. So were relying on epidemiologists and statisticians to make best estimates about what were headed into. The curve is, as you said, when cases will peak. And those are different estimates by city, by county, and by state. But were looking at estimates for many states that show that the peak will probably hit over the next several weeks to months. And trying to scramble and put in place the resources that we need for that absolute apex is the work that were all doing on the ground. Dr. Carlos del rio, Governor Cuomo there saying a real sign that perhaps there will be a turn to some normalcy is when there will be an athome kind of test for coronavirus. I mean, that is the thats the hopeful Governor Cuomo speaking. But how far away might that be . And what has to happen in the interim . Well, i think there are a lot of Companies Working on tests. And every day, new tests are appearing. In fact Abbott Laboratories yesterday got approval from the fda for a very rapid test that will give a result in 15, 20 minutes. I think science and technology are advancing rapidly and helping us in this pandemic. Lets not forget that science is behind our success. I want to say two things, i want to recognize that we need to remember that every single one of those deaths is a person, its a relative, its a friend, its somebody we dont know, and i think we need to think about that. The other thing is, i want to praise all my colleagues, Health Care Professionals who are really on the front lines and really are battling this and who really are doing what i think is a yeomans job and we all need to recognize that and thank them every day. Total agreement there. We cant thank enough the medical workers, all those on the front lines, the First Responders, and hey, how about the folks trying to keep things open for everyones survival from Grocery Stores, people at the counter there . There are just so many people that we all have to that anything thank. Brian, Governor Cuomo talked about rhode island and its executive order of stopping anyone from new york from relocating to rhode island. The governor said it was not only not legal but it was not neighborly to stop new yorkers in rhode island. And the governor of that state rethought things through after a discussion with Governor Cuomo and repealed that. How important was that to perhaps relax the fears, particularly of new yorkers, and perhaps Rhode Islanders too, that that executive order has since been repealed . Absolutely, i was hearing from folks in connecticut and rhode island last night who were worried about these restrictions that were being put into place. Certainly the president s talk yesterday, his trial balloon about a quarantine caused some concern from new yorkers as well, people wanted to know if they should leave the city and leave the state before roads, bridges, tunnels, and airports were closed. The president walked that back, of course, and we see the rhode island governor walking back her executive order. Those are good signs, we need more state by state coordination right now so there isnt this confusion, because confusion does cause concern, does cause in some cases chaos and panic. Most people are taking this in stride and living up to this national moment. Theres an incredible amount of unity and, you know, what people feel in these communities. But when we get mixed signals and disturbing comments from mayors, governors, president s, it does cause worry. I was driving through empty streets in new york, there are these beautiful street posters that say thank you to the Grocery Store workers, the firefighters, sanitation workers, the childcare aides, all of those folks who are helping people, nurses in hospitals, to help them stay employed and stay working. Its those kind of gestures, giving thanks, that is so important. We need states to coordinate better and for the federal government to get on the same page. And we thank the people who are working with you and i, brian. I walked down the hallway and i said thank you to the engineers keeping us on the air. And the janitors, the teaches jarn janitors. Thats absolutely right, the security guards in our building. Countless people keeping essential infrastructure online in new york and cities across the country. And ours is a service, were trying to be that conduit to help get the information from you, dr. Del rio, dr. Choo, from the governor, from the president. Were trying to be a conduit to make sure everyone gets the most concrete, reliable, sound information. But it does take a team. We usually have, you know, teaches dozens, sometimes hundreds, of course, for any number of shows, to try to get this information out there. And this weekend, brian, you and i can both relate, weve got a handful of people, but mighty work still being done and a big thanks to everyone for allowing it to happen. Kristen holmes is at the white house. Well continue this conversation and disseminate this information from the white house, kristen, often we know the president takes cues from the new york Governors Press conferences. And while the governor made it clear that executive order out of rhode island has since been rescinded, i understand there are some travel advisories now being put out by the cdc. You have information on that . Reporter yeah, thats absolutely right, fred. We saw this very different tone toward Governor Cuomo from President Trump yesterday. Yesterday during that press briefing, cuomo was blindsided by reports that President Trump was saying that he wanted to put a quarantine on new york. We heard some pretty sharp words from cuomo, later in the day saying essentially that a quarantine on new york, connecticut, and new jersey would be essentially a federal declaration of war against the states. Today, he was talking very favorably about what President Trump ended up doing instead, which was issuing that cdc travel advisory, essentially Governor Cuomo here saying that he likes what he did because it affirms what the state of new york was already doing. But one thing to make very clear here, he kept saying this is not a lockdown, this is not mandatory. It really goes to show this kind of pushpull of power that weve seen play out throughout the coronavirus response. He have the states on one side against the federal government, governors kind of pushing, pulling against President Trump. And thats what we saw play out here. Now, Governor Cuomo says hes on board with this cdc travel advisory. We are going to wait and see what other announcements may be made later tonight with this press briefing with President Trump. Were expecting at some point earlier this week, President Trump to discuss what new guidelines there may be. Remember, he wants to reopen the economy in some way or another, something were keeping a very close eye on as we head into that briefing. Okay. Dr. Choo, what would you want to hear from the president in his Late Afternoon briefing . Of course, you know, every medical, you know, employee, pe personnel, wants to hear about the delivery of masks, ventilators in the immediate term, but that doesnt seem to be happening anytime soon, at least in the next 24 hours for many medical facilities. What would you want to hear from the president this evening that might bring some hope to the teams that you work with . We are really waiting for a strong central coordinated approach to everything that we need. So its not just the personal protective equipment and the resources like ventilators. Were facing so many limitations. Its tests, its space, its Health Care Workers, its equipment, its medications that we need to take care of our patients. And like Governor Cuomo said, these efforts have been occurring really on a hospital to hospital basis. We certainly need to coordinate more across cities and across the state. What we really need nationally is a central, very wellorganized, very rapidly deployed and adaptive system so we understand what the needs are. As we pull in resources, there is equitable distribution that makes sense so were not in competition with each other. All Health Care Workers need from the president a very strong statement about how important staying at home is. If there is equivocation there, it makes our job harder every single day. Dr. Del rio, what about the Mental Health of these medical teams . Its heartbreaking to see the testimony from so many nurses and doctors tearfully talking about. They consider it their duty. It is the most important thing to them to report to work, to be able to help people, even if it means not having masks, even if it means reusing a mask all day long when it should have been disposed of after its first use. How concerned are you about the Mental Fitness of all of you on the front lines, and how youre enduring this . Well, were very concerned about it. And we, all of us at our different institutions are actively working on it, people at emory and grady are working hard to provide support. We have something called caring communities for coronavirus care providers that actively is doing this and is doing it frequently. But i also worry about the Mental Health of children and of others who are simply at home and dont understand whats going on and fear and anxiety i think is very big. And i think we need to reassure people that this is hard, but this too will pass. You think what we need is a message of unity and a call to action from the highest level that really gets us rowing in the same direction and we see a path forward. What i hope to see from the federal government and from local governments is not actions that dont seem to have people helping each other. I want to see a battle, a clear plan of action over the next 30, 45, 60 days that we can all align with and feel confident. I think when there is that kind of messaging and theres hope, i think the Mental Health of people is in a much better place. And in the meantime all of us really love this mantra, were all in this together. We sure are. Absolutely. Dr. Esther choo, dr. Carlos del rio, brian stelter, Kristen Holmes, thank you so much. Ahead, the Coronavirus Task force has received proposed guidelines on reducing social distancing. What do they say and will they work . Well hear from dr. Fauci, next. 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