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Here it may never see a doctor. They may never see a doctor. On the episode of the whole story with Anderson Cooper airs sunday night at nine pm eastern, ten pacific, only on cnn. Thank you for watching, Laura Coates Live starts right now. Laura, hi. Itll be the whole story with abby philip on sunday, you mean. Thats what youre talking about. All hyped up myself. Thank you so much. Everyone, it is everything, everywhere, all at once for President Biden. And this time it is personal. Tonight on Laura Coates Live. Weve heard it over and over, that phrase that all politics is local. Well, maybe it should be all politics is personal. It certainly seems to be for President Biden. In a just 18 days it is going to be 2024, i know, im with you, i cant believe it either. But in 18 days it will in fact be 2024 and the president will be running for reelection in the face of some significant headwinds that are turning into quite the hurricane. I mean, everything, everywhere, all at once. You have got wars in ukraine, israel, bombs still raining down, youve got hostages still desperate for rescue, families torn apart. Some of bidens own Staff Members holding a vigil outside the white house, masked it conceal their identities and calling for a permanent ceasefire in gaza. The president giving a very personal message to israel. I want them to be focused on how to save civilian lives. Not stop going after hamas, but to be more careful. Then there is ukraine. Biden is trying to push his own party where they dont seem to want to go. He is open to changing Border Policy in exchange for the votes to pass the aid that ukraine desperately needs. But, democrats have been bulking at support in policy that they frankly once slammed. The president s Approval Rating is, well, underwater. In poll after poll after poll. Now he faces what very will be the biggest challenge of all. House republicans Impeachment Inquiry with a notable lack of evidence to back up any of their accusations against the president , it kind of reverse engineering. Biden calling it a baseless political stunt. Even fundraising off of it. Perhaps this seems familiar to you. Impeachment, fundraising off of it, talking about it being baseless. Kind of a page out of the trump playbook. But maybe for different reasons. Well, he is the expert, after all. He had been impeached not once, but twice. But this inquiry, well, it is personal for joe biden, he says. He is focusing on hunter biden, of course, foreign Business Dealings and what could be more personal for the president than the man he is called his only surviving son . That after beau biden died of brain cancer in 2015. My father was not financially involved in my business, not as a practicing lawyer, not as a board member of burisma, not in my partnership with the Chinese Private businessman, not in my investments at home or abroad, and certainly not as an artist. The big question is, it can joe biden turn this around . The headwind in the space . The idea of all and everything, everywhere, all at once . People, they have counted him out before, havent they . Look, this isnt the first time in my life that ive been knocked down. No, its not, but The Big Question is what will voters think on november 5th. Will they lift him up once again to the white house . There is a lot to talk about with former 2020 democratic president ial candidate andrew yang, he is also the author of the last election. Andrew, its so good to see you here tonight. Im glad that youre joining me. How are you doing . Im doing great, laura. Those polls you showed there, they are actually a little bit worse for the president. I think a cnns last poll had him at authorities of a percent, and that is what the five average is now. It is great to be here with you, i think this is the most important topic for our politics in the next cycle. The poll polls that have the averages seem to be the latest one, but im not going to were talking about underwater or, like, under the water. Were talking about the numbers that are facing the Biden Administration right now. Now you have got this Impeachment Inquiry, it is not the full impeachment. We know maybe parsing the words for many voters, it is not sufficient. But republicans have been itching to launch this impeachment, even though there is no evidence, there is no definitive high crime or misdemeanor or any definitive ties, if any, to hunters by financial dealings or what he may have done wrong. I wonder though, from your perspective, how Will Americans see this given, look, in just a few years ago everyone was talking about democrats, if youre republican, saying they were undermining the sanctity of the use of impeachments . I think this is an overreach on the part of republicans. Its going to remind a lot of independents why they dont like republicans because it feels like they are playing politics and just goingfortat. You impeached our guy, so were going to impeach yours. Like, you said the evidence is very, very thin. The president have a number of very significant headwinds. The Impeachment Inquiry, to me, is not one of them. We look at the headwinds, hunter biden, i hate to use alliteration here, but the headwind of hunter might be really significant here because he has been a source of turmoil for his father. He believes, hunter, even on those steps of the capital and talking in the past, about how he is perceived as a political pawn that is being used, in spite of the criminal indictments that are absolutely there. He has said in the past that they are trying to kill him just to get to his father. That, i wonder, that takes a toll on the average person, but how about the toll on the presidency . You couldnt be a father without this taking a toll. I do think that a lot of americans see this as a political ploy, as a weaponization of family, in a way, that hunter biden, unfortunately, has become something of a symbol on the right whenever you talk about corruption for the Republican Party. They just say hunter biden and that is a function of the polarization of todays political climate. Let me ask you, you mentioned that you think the impeachment might not be as biggest headwind. What do you think it is . If you look at all the polling, laura, you see that the economy is number one on voters minds and the president s Approval Rating, when it comes to the economy is in these 30 or 40 range. People look back on the trump years. If youre an independent, i think that the polling that i have seen sees that trump has maybe a 25 point lead on the economy above that President Biden was independent. This, to me, is an okay economy but the perception is lousy. It is tough for the president to make an affirmative case when that is the way americans feel every time they go to the Grocery Store or look at their bank account. I heard someone use the phrase steel and all mics, the way people judge their own viewpoint of the economy by the way they feel. Of course, how do you message around, telling somebody know you dont feel the way you actually do feel . But how do you turn it around . Well, this is why, in my opinion, the democrats will be wellserved by having a competitive field. Because the Biden Campaign tested this out. They said, you know what, were going to spend 25 million boosting our numbers in the swing states, which is either in aggressive or desperate move 12 months ahead of the voting. Its not something that you ordinarily see. In that 25 million did not move the president s numbers up in that swing states and the senate, in large part, on bidenomics and the economy. Its not a winning argument. Its hard to convince americans that things are good when they dont feel that and their own lives. When you mention a more competitive field you are talking about candidates other than donald trump or joe biden, specifically. Is that right . Oh my gosh, laura, 70 of americans are not excited about a biden trump rematch. Biden said himself that there are 50 rematches that could defeat donald trump. A generic democrat leads donald trump in all the same polls that has biden losing him, in virtually all the swing states. 39 , 37 , and these are way under water relative to the 48 than obama had at this stage in his reelect or the 50 that he would ideally want. Anyone else with an Approval Rating at this range went on to lose. So President Biden, if he views trump as an existential threat to democracy, and i think a trump would be a catastrophe, he should be looking for a better, stronger candidate to defeat trump in the general next november. You know, im going to extend the analogy of being underwater. I do wonder, with the dates that are in mind, as the ship sailed . These are, right now, youve got trump as the runaway. It seems, so far. Youve got biden as the only strong candidate in terms of even the Polling Numbers are there. He doesnt seem to have anyone in the realm of possibility to unseat him as the person who will secure that nomination yet again. Are the Polling Numbers so instructive that we are within a year of the election . Laura, not a single vote has been cast in the democratic primary. There is still ample opportunity for gavin newsom, gretchen whittler, jamie dean phillips of minnesotas already declared that he is at 15 in New Hampshire and climbing fast. Not with single vote has been cast. This is the time for the Democratic Party to find the best candidate to face off and defeat donald trump in november. The numbers are clearly showing that joe biden is not that candidate. Its interesting because most people assume, at this point in time, youre talking about a third party run. You just named a string of democrats from Gretchen Whitmer to gavin newsom dean phillips and beyond. Is there a risk in undercutting the incumbents opportunities to get reelection right now at this juncture, or do you think, look, it doesnt take a thirdparty run, its a test for the American People to know that this is the person they want to be the person who has that nomination . Laura, voters are begging for a better alternative in november. And the Democratic Party, in my opinion, owes the American People a real process of competition to determine the nominee. If you coronated joe biden and the numbers are clearly showing that. Right now, if the election were held tomorrow, he would lose to trump. Betting on a turnaround for an 81yearold incumbent with, lets call it a 38 Approval Rating, is not found it in any reality. Again, they spent 25 million to gooses numbers and saw absolutely no results. You can add more money into that mix, but people have already made up their minds about the biden economy. The Democratic Party, by the way, if you had somebody like dean phillips as a democratic nominee, all of the sudden there would be this generational contrast because you would have a 54yearold against trump and trump would be the 78 year old and the old one, as opposed to having an incumbent where 70 of americans are concerned about his age, which i think is a very legitimate issue. Youre talking about a very, very demanding, i stress role and joe biden is easily the oldest president on record. Why am i not surprised that you have or the math pan are so concerned about the numbers. I shouldnt be surprised about that very notion, but let me ask you about the republican side of things. Because certainly the age is a factor on both. You mentioned the excitement, really not being there when it comes to biden or a trump, compared to previous administrations or previous campaigns. Do you see any republican in the field Beating Trump out for that gop nomination . Because that might be an entirely different ball game for who is on the democratic side. What i said about the Democratic Party goes for the Republican Party just as a strongly where generic republican would be a much stronger candidate than donald trump. If nikki haley were to be the nominee, i think she would be a very, very formidable opponent against anyone on the democratic side. But the numbers are very, very strongly indicating that donald trump is still the prohibitive favorite. And people would not be surprised to hear that that makes extraordinarily frustrated because i think somebody like nikki haley would be a vastly superior choice. But donald trump has 30point lead, even nikki haleys home state of South Carolina at present. Unless the numbers shift dramatically over the next number of days out expect trump to emerge as the nominee. Just me are not going to endorse joe biden . Look, im in any one but trump guy, but the Democratic Party owes the country the best possible nominee to defeat trump in november. Numbers show clearly it is not joe biden. I wish dearly, ill make this a personal plea, President Biden, you have done extraordinary things for the country. But now it is time for you to be a statesman as opposed to a political figure and for the good of the country lets have the next generation step up. You were right, there are another 49 democrats who can defeat donald trump, lets get one of them in that spot. Real quick, do you know of another person who is willing to do that right now . I know there are a lot of conversation around, you just said that, but President Biden is the one running for reelection. You have dean phillips. Is that the list . Well, there are a number of people that we all know, laura, like gavin newsom in california who is chomping at the bit. We talk about them, andrew, thats my point, people talk about them but they have not committed to run. They have not said that they would. They have, in fact, thrown their support behind biden talking about Beating Trump. Its exactly why joe biden needs to lead them and say, hey guys, please do throw your hat in the ring. Then the very next day you could see a number of people do so. To your point though, laura, Congressman Dean Phillips is the only person with a Backbone Distend up and say, look guys, were on a path to disaster. Lets actually compete. I give him all the credit in the world that there are many, many democratic insiders who are saying the exact same thing behind closed doors, but they are leery about going out in the open and saying it in public. So, credit to dean phillips for making the case the majority of democrats want to see the. You should have a competition for the strongest possible nominee. Andrew, thank you for stopping by. Its always great to hear the insight. Thank you laura, its great being with you as always. Up next, speaking about behind closed doors, its inside the giuliani courtroom. Ill talk to the journalist who got the scoop and can take us right inside. Next. Well, a defiant and unapologetic Rudy Giuliani is trying his case, not in a court of law, about, you probably guessed it, and the court of public opinion. With defamatory statements about Georgia Election workers, ruby freeman and shaye moss. But is that has a long time prosecutor, remember, he was the u. S. Attorney in the Southern District of new york, now he is the defendant with the defendant words right next to him on the table. Is that how he has behaved in front of a jury . It is he as defiant . Is he as apologetic . Lets go inside of the courtroom with someone who has been there all this week. Features writer new York Magazine andrew rice. Andrew, so glad to see you here. Ive been dying to know more about what was happening inside that court, because people can talk big and bad on the courthouse steps, but when theyre in front of a jury, when theyve got the judge presiding, sometimes they sing a very different tune. Walk us through what was going on in that courtroom. I think you hit it right on the head. There is a real kind of a bifurcation between the Rudy Giuliani that we saw outside the courtroom, every day at the end of the trial over the course of the last few days has come out and given very brash statements. He accused people of being, the lawyers in the case as being somehow affiliated with hunter biden. He accused said that he didnt regret and other things that he said about any of the election workers. Inside the courtroom, a very different story. He was restricted from really saying much of anything of substance and when it came right down to it, today, he had a chance to take the stand. He was on the fence and he passed it up. What was his Body Language like . Was he somebody who seemed very confident in front of a jury, spine straight, or somebody who had a different appearance . I mean, hes 79 years old now so i dont want to be unfair to him about his appearance. But it is fair to say that he looks a little older, a little more stooped. He seemed at times kind of disconnected, distracted, not really paying attention. He had an ipad there and you could see him flipping through the New York Post on his ipad. During the actual testimony . Yeah, during the testimony, during extensive portions of the trial. Really kind of looking at emails. He was not deeply we should say that i dont think you is deeply engaged in the arguments that were happening in the trial. How about during the testimony . Because there is a point, he described something, i think that he called the testimony on tuesday a pretty boring day. Of course, that was far from the truth because that was a day of testimony in fact by one of those Georgia Election workers. There is also these really searing moments in trial that played a voice mail messages in the courtroom. I want to give the audience a warning, they are pretty disturbing. Here is just an example of a portion of what the jury has heard. [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] thats just a portion of it. Im wondering how the jury was reacting . I mean, those were some of the tamed ones, to be honest. These two women, these two election workers, Working Class Black Women From Georgia got up on the stand and, i have to say, really gave really, really compelling testimony about what it was like to be a regular person in the eye of this a political storm. To be identified falsely by the Trump Campaign as people who are responsible for, not just they claimed that these two individuals were responsible for stealing the entire state of georgia. So they had the two lead of the entire hatred come down on them as a result of that. Andrew, i want to know, the jurors. How are they reacting to it . Thats what i really want to understand. Well, i think the jurors, as jurors are supposed to, they didnt betray a lot of emotion. I will say that, at one point in the testimony yesterday when ruby freeman, the mother and pair was testifying, she became very emotional. She started to talking about how she really couldnt username anymore, people knew who she was because of this ignominy attached to her name and she could introduce Upper Salford people. She moved to a new place, she gave up her home, moved to a new neighborhood, she just felt like she didnt have an identity anymore. I saw one woman who was similar looking to ruby freeman in the sense that she was an older African American woman, dabbing her eyes with a tissue. And then, next to her, a woman who was a white middle aged women also started and seemed to be quite emotional. I think that it is only an eight person jury, so if two of the eight people are crying on the plaintive is talking, its not good for the defendant. Andrew rice, to say the least, you are correct. Thank you so much. Sure. Well, speaking of another trial, marvel star Jonathan Majors is over the alleged assault of his girlfriend. Well talk about it, next. Loving this pay bump in our allowance. Wonder where mom and dad got the extra money . Maybe they won the lottery . Maybe they inherited a fortune . Maybe buried treasure . Maybe it fell off a truck . Maybe they heard that xfinity customers can save hundreds when they buy one unlimted line and get one free. Now i can buy that Electric Scooter im starting a Privateequity Fund that specializes in midcap. You do you. Visit xfinitymobile. Com today. All right, once it going to be guilty or not guilty . Thats the question the new york jury is currently waiting for Jonathan Majors. Is the Marvel Star Accused Of Assault and harassment against his former girlfriend, grace jabbari. The domestic dispute allegedly occurring in march of this year. Now, jabbari alleges that a cut behind her ear, a fracture in her right middle finger, and injuries to her right for arm are all the fault of majors. Now, he insists that she was the instigator. The jury was shown this clip of majors and jabbari in the back of an suv, that is where jabbari alleges the assault actually occurred after she saw a romantic text on his phone from someone else. There is also a video of him appearing to run away from jabbari on the night of the alleged assault. There is also Video Evidence from the night of the incident of jabbari inside of a club, using the finger that she claims as broken. From the day after the alleged incident, Body Cam Footage from when majors called the police to his home because he found jabbari distraught in a closet. Thats not all, because the prosecution is trying to paint a picture of majors as an abuser. Using evidence from before the alleged incident like this one. How do you come home drunk and start in our house . I would like to get to the point. When your friends know what job im on and go [inaudible] in what i mean . I wont. Do you understand that, that team, that business, grace has been a friend on commission. You know that is . That is martin kings wife. Michelle obama, Barack Obamas wife. I shouldnt have gone out. The prosecution also showing texts from the aftermath of another alleged violent altercation where majors allegedly threatened to kill himself. Lets do a bit of a mock trial right now, i want to bring in attorney and Legal Affairs commentator areva martin who will be playing the role of the prosecutor in this instance. Also with me today is cnn legal analyst joey jackson will be the role of the defense. And, you know what, im gonna be the judge in this because the two of you definitely got this. Lets just say that the court is now in session at this moment. Obviously this is the court of public opinion, theres a lot going on in the law. But i have to ask you, areva, if you are the prosecution in this case how confident are you feeling as the jury is deliberating right now . Im feeling pretty good right now, laura, because the evidence that the prosecution presented in this case is very, very persuasive and compelling. This young lady was hit by a mack truck and, in this case, that stands for a Master Manipulator and abuser and someone who was incredibly controlling and that is what we saw in the audio. It is what we saw in that videotape, and it is what we know, now, Jonathan Majors to be. He abused this woman on the night in question. He had a pattern of abuse and he even trained her on how to hide the abuse from the authorities from medical professionals. And he used the race card. In this case used the race card to tell her dont ever call the authorities on me, dont ever report may because, as a black man, you dont know how substantial the consequences will be for me. And, the evidence presented, i think, it creates no doubt, in the minds, and should not create any doubt in the minds of these jurors that he is guilty as charged. Joey, quite the accusations leveled. Of course, identified by the prosecution in this case in the court from, as well. But, you see it differently . No one deserves to be abused ever. No one deserves to be falsely accused of abuse ever and i think that is what we have here. At the end of the day my former office, the Manhattan District Attorneys Office that i respect so much, is very worried for a number of reasons. We have to look at the evidence. Who did, at the end of the day, try to get away from someone who is scorned . This is about a person who is extremely jealous, its about a person who noted a text message that indicated he may have been involved with someone else, and as a result of that went bananas. The reality is that the driver of that car indicated and called her the cycle woman. He was, that is Jonathan Majors, trying to extract himself from the situation. Should we not believe our lying eyes as it relates to the video that you played with him running away . Should we not take note of the fact that he went to the prosecutors and tried to file a Cross Complaint . Why is it that they took her side and not his . Why was it that she went out partying immediately thereafter . Why was that she was chasing him . Why was it that she continued to pursue him as he tried to get away from her, trying, in the very best that he possibly can, not at all to be involved with her . This is a matter of a person who obviously wanted to exact revenge upon him and that is what she is doing in that courtroom. Again, no one should ever be abused, but no one should be falsely accused of it. If you say it is your finger is broken and your partying and using that finger and drinking without a finger, why exaggerate . He is not guilty. For even, how do you respond to the fact that he is seen running away in the video . No doubt he is seen running away, but what he is also seen, or what we also see in that video is him slamming her body, trying to force her back into that car. This notion that, somehow, a woman that has been abused, as we know now for over twoyear period, that she would have to follow a kind of this abuse by the numbers. That she cant try to seek closure, that she cant follow, him and none of that undermines the fact that he abused her in the back of a car. The socalled witness that calls her a psycho woman, he did not witness anything. In fact he said that he felt like the woman in this case, the girl as he called, her it was a doing something. He was not an eyewitness. He gave no credible testimony that can establish that anything happened in that vehicle other than what mr. Jabbari testified to. Lets face, and these are charges brought by an attorneys office. She was the only one who had the courage to take the Witness Stand and tell the story of what happened that night. We didnt hear from Jonathan Majors, he didnt take the Witness Stand to try to defend themselves. Obviously that was his right, but the evidence that was presented, the medical evidence is consistent with the injuries that she described. The evidence, the pattern of abuse, this is a man that would abuse this woman and then write her a text message and say im going to kill myself. Im going to kill myself. I am a monster, i have a temper. And then he told her, he insists, you are not good enough. Why arent you like herenda scott king . Why are you like Michelle Obama . Let me get joey in here to distress that claim. I think its interesting, your characterizing the abuse broadly. Obviously we are talking verbal, physical, there is demarcation between these aspects of it but collectively the prosecution is focusing on it. What do you say of those claims, joey . What i say is that we have to keep our eye on the prize. Whatever prosecutors are noting a history and pattern and what happened yesterday, the day before the week before, that is because they dont have the evidence with respect to the now. The fact of the matter is that after he ran away she called him a total of 35 times. She went out partying that evening, et cetera. She was a woman scorned, noting that she wanted to exact revenge. He, if you want to talk about courage, had tremendous courage. Why . Because when she came in drunk after a night of partying, unconscious, taking pills, right . What did he do . He called 911. What did the police do . The police immediately said that he was the one who should be responsible. He, in fact, indicating that he was a product of abuse. Why take her side, not his . Why not adequately investigate. Why not do your job . Why, all of a sudden, say that he is the guilty party here . The fact of the matter is that, at the end of the day, its not about yesterday, the day before, it is about the now. And the now establishes that hes not guilty. You know what im going to do, both of you, im going to stop at their. Because the now is for me to remind the audience hear that you are both playing the roles of prosecutor and of course role of defense council, although both of you address all of the issues that really have come up and how i tell you, the jury is going to be out for this one if you guys were the lawyers. How is it going to end up . I just dont know. But areva martin, joey jackson, none better. Thank you so much for helping us flush out all of these issues. Thank you. A pleasure. We dont take it lightly, we dont mean to suggest that were playing a role when it comes to domestic violence, but that was a moment for you to understand what was happening inside of that courtroom and the considerations that jurors in this country, right now, in that jurisdiction are facing. Not just in that matter, but all across this country anytime there are questions about how you break down what a he said she said case freely looks like. Well, there is a mother in mississippi and she is claiming authorities threw away her son like he was some piece of trash. He is now the Third Mississippi Man found buried in a Paupers Field whose family said they werent even notified. Now they are demanding accountability. Now i want you to try to imagine that someone you know very much has gone missing. After months of hoping and asking for any word, any information at all, you get the worst news imaginable. But it doesnt come from the police, it does not come from the city authorities, the family of Jonathan David hankins only learned this month from reporters, from reporters i want, emphasize from reporters in mississippi that he had died in may of 2022, and was buried in a field. Authorities found his body in a hotel room what the family says they were never notified. This is as you know, we have been covering the story, is that the third such cases discovered in the county in mississippi. The last three told you about was found that on the street, then buried without his familys knowledge. Prior to, that learned about dexter wade who was struck and killed by Jackson Mississippi Police cruiser, and buried without his family being notified. Now all three families are demanding answers, or demanding accountability. Jonathan hankins grandmother joins me now along with attorney benjamin crump. Thank you so much for being here this evening. I mean, i cannot imagine what you have been going through. Your son was missing for almost a year and a half and you understand you did what every loving mother would do. You put up missing posters you called for help me put it on facebook you did anything you could to try and find where he was and then you learned about what happened from reporters what was that like learning that information from them . Actually it was a year and seven months some of the time i found out i could not believe this reporter knew more than the county where i reported and gpt. They was a total shock. I was in disbelief. What were you told . I was told that, well, he showed me a Permission Slip where he was dead and to bear him in the grave. I thought, i told him i didnt believe it. I have to see, pictures i just did not believe it. So the next morning, my sister and i went up to the Jackson Police department, and after a couple hours they finally scrambled a picture and showed me and it was him. I asked why they didnt notify us, because my address was on there. Really . They said it was the corners job to notify me. And when i had spoke with the corner of the day before, they said they had pictures, but it was to notify me. All of this time i was taking in with the county, every couple weeks, and they never heard anything, and the detective over his case got arrested, in the county so 23 someone finally called me back and hold me there was a new detective to take the place. Then, when you are hearing all this, having her go from this person to that, meaning pingpong back and forth between different entities, to figure out what have been, you have been looking at these issues for sometime including the fact that the corner found math, and fentanyl in his blood, but listed the cause of death as natural causes. Any insight into why they would do that . There is none, laura coates. A matter of fact it is eerily similar to mario moores family, and dexter waynes family where they have pointed their fingers at each other. No one wants to take accountability. Well, miss gretchen i promise you we are going to try to identify all 672 of those individuals buried behind that jail, and laura thank you for covering these matters with us. A lot of times these families have nowhere to turn my you or giving them a voice and ultimately any others loved one is missing in jackson mississippi to contact us immediately, so we can try to not have any of the family go through what mr. Gretchen is going through. Im taken aback right now, miss gretchen, just by the number that he said. 600 plus people in that field, and your beloved son, one of them, and that is how you find out. You have mentioned before that your son muddled addiction. Yes, maam, he did. Im wondering, frankly, if this is something that happens all across this country, and we have the nation need to grapple with the consequences of it, and how to make sure people are getting the treatment they need. I wonder in terms of treatment, how do you feel your son was treated by authorities in this matter . I felt like they threw him away like a piece of trash. He has been in trouble several times, and i felt like they just thought well another drug head there and just no respect, no remorse, no contact or apologize, not even after they know that none of them tried to talk to me or anything. I want my son married with my family. They want him to have a respectful burial. Thank you for doing that today. Thank you for sharing the story as well. Mr. Crump, we are continuing to follow what has been happening in the area. I know you will stay on the case as well. Thank you both. Thank you, laura. We will be right back. New Jersey Transit rioters could not believe their eyes today. A steer found its way onto train tracks that newark spends station. Yes, this happened on the train. The startling cost traffic for hours. Eventually it was subdued with a tranquilizer and transported to a local Animal Sanctuary where he has been named ricardo. Joining me now is mike, founder and president of scotland Animal Sanctuary. I dont know where to begin at Times Ricardo is now at the sanctuary, the skylight Animal Sanctuary. So you identified him as a texas longhorn. Is about a year and a half old. I dont know he was, doing and found where he, was but how was he doing tonight . Hello. He is doing, well, much better than he was when i first met him. He was and that is no good for them. Both can lay down on their sides like that. So he is now on his chest, upright, and much brighter, id looking very handsome. He has not stood up yet. But so far. I understand from an eyewitness, he told our, Affiliate Ricardo as, named charged at, police they try to corner, him and all scattered like roaches, because they were afraid, that is a quote. While this is stressful, and the idea is to, why how he ended up where he, was . Yes, my best guess is he was being brought to a local slaughterhouse right there. There are several nearby. And he saw daylight, and ran for it. And now he is in the sanctuary being cared for. We will see if he stands up. I cant believe this is a story that was real. When i saw the pictures. Thank you for joining us. Well, thank you. Thanks for having me. Well, thank you all for watching. Our coverage continues