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CNNW New Day April 15, 2014

Good morning, welcome to new day, april 15th. The bluefin expected to dive into the indian ocean today after mondays submersible exceeded the depth limit. The signal that came to the copilotss cellphone while in flight is raising many new questions this morning. Were doing to dive into this with ouring pertsmorning. But first, Erin Mclaughlin is live in perth, australia. Good morning, erin. Good morn,ing kate. Thats right, the bluefin21 cut its mission short after encountering waters deeper than its designed to handle. Prompting the questions, can it handle the task at hand . Overni. U. S. Navy Officials Say no objects of interest were found among the data downloaded from their unmanned underwater robot. This as the first subsurface search was cut short. Just six hours into its mission the bluefin21 surfaced. 14 hours early. The bluefin was originally expected to scour the ocean floor for debris. The whole journey lasting 20 hours. But instead, the device resurfaced after the o official say it exceeded the operating depth of 14800 feet. We just hit a deeper spot than we initially planned so we just got to bring it up, reprogram it, shift a little bit away from the deeper area. And adjust our search pattern. Meanwhile, a new detail emerging. A u. S. Official tells cnn the copilots cellphone was on during the flight and made contact with the malaysian cell tower. According to information shared by malaysian investigators. That cellphone signal reportedly detected about 30 minutes after the plane made that sharp westward turn, around the time the aircraft disappeared from radar. Were now hear that the bluefin21 actually spent 7 1 2 hours in the water. Officials say that it could take up to two months for it to search the entire area. Chris . Erin, thank you very much. Lets bring in cnn aviation analyst and former Inspector General for the u. S. Department of transportation mary schiavo and cnn safety analyst, former faa inspector david soucie and author of that great book. Why planes crash. Mary schiavo, you play the role of investors here for malaysia. How can you say that you dont pick up any cellphone information, its not that hard to figure it out, and now weeks into the investigation you say you did . And it was the copilots . How do you make this type of mistake . Well, you make this type of mistake if, one, youre not on top of your investigation and, one hand doesnt know what the other hand is doing. And this piece of information a had apparently gone to other authorities to investigate. As the head of the investigation, you should know where all of your data issed. I think they did not. I dont think they were on top of their investigation. Clearly this makes us all wonder is there any other cellphone information. Its hard to believe 239 people didnt have 23 ce9 cellphones. Ive have left mine on in flight many times before. I think they have terrible problems of coordination. Youve left it on or kept it on on purpose . By accident. Thats my story and im sticking to it. Mary is a lawyer. Among 15 other things. I wont write a violation. Mary raises all the valid issues here. If you find one, first of all, this is not difficult. This is not sophisticated. This is not 20,000 leagues under the sea type of stuff were dealing with with the bluefin. Find out whether or not there was cell plays off the se is easy. How did they not know or did they know and conceal it and marys point, if you find one, why wouldnt you have found others . Well, and im not look at the report and they said that they confirmed that the copi copilotss cellphone did connect. They didnt say others didnt connect. They way reported it wasnt clear, it wasnt complete. Amazing. You cant connect up high. Ive heard as much as 18,000 feet. I have a friend who flies that area a lot and one time he left his own and received text message about 18,000 feet in that same area. So its possible that it did connect at a little bit higher altitude but certainly not 35,000 feet. What would have to be happening . I dont like speculation but just to test the idea of what you would need a cellphone when you have all of this other communications equipment, how disastrous a scenario would you have to be experiencing, mary, that that was your only recourse . Well, it would have to be a very serious disaster. It would have to be a disaster that involved losing your communications equipment. You give good night malaysian 370 and then you have a disastrous event that knocks out your communications and its on event thats on going. The pilot turns around to head back to land and says, well, ill see if we can get a signal, see if you can get a cellphone signal copilot because we dont want to be cruising into malaysian airspace and have the military shoot us down. Some identify to the tower that you have no communications involve things that can only be seen during the day, Like Movement of your wings, et cetera. So it might have been an attempt to try to reach the cellphone tower. Obviously its fuelled a lot of nefarious speculation. We have to find out what the full, complete understanding of cellphone activity is before we walk down that road. Lets go to something we do know. Bluefin21, you both told me the reason you need the alvin is that its depth limited, the bluefin bluefin21, and thats what they experienced yesterday. Not about the messup in the search. This is what happens as you learn more about the depth youre dealing with. Thats right. This area is not somethings thats mapped in detail. In fact, it changes over time with sand and silt and everything that moves. So the fact that they found that it was too deep, we kind of expected. It was right on the fringe of what this machine could do. The one decision you can scrutinize a little bit is you recalibrate the bluefin21 but did they call for the alvin also, that they need better vehicle . Well, i dont know if theyve actually officially called for the alvin. I know at loose a couple days ago in the chine chinese media, the chinese said they had the sea dragon and they were anticipating or they were going to plan to deploy that one. And that one holds the worlds record for dives. And its a man dive. So they can theyve already offered that. What i dont know is if it has sonar capabilities though. Those are typically visual machines and under there theres not a lot of sight so you would have to be very close to the debris to find it. You need the sonar to do it by feel and bounce back and understand the area. Yes. So these are all things they can deal with if they didnt anticipate it correctly. There it makes sense because of the variable depths. There are machines to do it, maybe thats not the one for the application. Im asking for it this way because we want to be careful not to criticize as you scrutinize. Fair point, mary . Fair point. That could explain the cellphones, too. What may have happened is they knew the pilots cellphone number so they went looking for that. Maybe they havent gathered all the 237 other cellphones and hadnt looked yet. There may be a mistake on the investigation but theres still time to do that. Im saying from the familys perspective. Theyre so on edge that theyre not getting accurate information. Yes, its curious that pile t t lots would have their cellphones on. Yes, it would make you wonder why it would be necessary. You would think you would gotten it right by now. Thats right. 30 years ago i was able to get cellphone records immediately. On the approach pass someone used their cellphone during the accident. I was able to get them quickly, like within an hour. This date, why didnt they know i cant figure it out. One thing we all know is in an investigation where you may not get answers to every question you better hope the integrity of your search and your investigation is impeccable because otherwise people will be upset forever. Kate . Now to ukraine. A country on the brink. President obama spoke with russian president Vladimir Putin by phone on monday. The violence in ukraine though is getting worse and the u. S. Is publicly accused russia of fostering much of it. Phil black is on the ground in ukraine but lets begin at the white house with white house county michelle. This is the second time in two weeks that president s obama and putin have spoken. The white house said it was frank and direct. P with president obama expressing grave concern for what he called russian Government Support of those armed militants who have taken over buildings across Eastern Ukraine and urging putin to convince them to stop, saying that there is is still room for diplomacy here but that it wont work. And what the white house called an environment of Russian Military intimidation, provocation, armed provocation within ukraine, andes a latory rhetoric by the kremlin. As usual the kremlin saw this call as very different, denying its own involvement, blaming the vial lins on the Ukrainian Government and urging president obama to uses american influence to prevent more violence. There are these fourparty talks this week coming up in geneva. Russia, ukraine, the u. S. , and the eu. So if there really is room for diplomacy here, that would be the time and place for it. Kate . It does seem to be they do seem to be running short on time for that diplomacy at this point. Michelle, thanks so much. That phone call michelle is talking about comes just days after a russian jet made several very close passes by a u. S. Navy warship in the black sea. Meanwhile, separatist groups occupying governments in Eastern Ukraine have completely ignored it appears kievs demand that they leave. Cnns phil black is joining now from Eastern Ukraine with much more on this side of the story. Phil . Kate, good morning. This morning the Ukrainian Government says it launched what it describes as an antiterror operation. This is in a region surrounding the city of donetsk in the southeastern of the country. We dont know the size and scale of the operation but they say theyre taking it slow and theyve been talking about doing this for a few days now. Theyve tried setting ultimatums, deadlines. All of it hasnt really worked as the prorussian militants and supporters have consolidated their power, ok neying key pieces of infrastructure in some nine to ten cities and towns across this region now. So now theyre attempting an antiterror operation. In addition to this weve heard the suggestion from the Ukrainian Government to bring in International Peacekeepers under United Nations mandate. Soldiers from perhaps western governments here in the east of the country standing off against Russian Forces across the border. You have to think thats a hard sale. Noi in addition to that it would require a United Nations Security Council resolution. Who ukraine is saying here is that it still needs more support to stop this country from breaking up and to deal with the threat it believes is still coming from moscow. Chris, back to you. Phil, that much is clear. Thank you for the reporting this morning. Now, today marks one year since the Boston Marathon bombings. Three lost their lives. 260 injured have their lives changed forever. Vice President Biden will attend a memorial to honor them as the city pauses to remember and unite in the spirit of being boston strong. Cnns Jason Carroll is live in boston this morning. Hey, jason. Good morning to you, chris. Today what were going to see is a tribute. The city will come together and pay their respects, honor all of those who suffered and paid with their lives that day one year ago during the boston bombing. Its simply being called, chris, a tribute that will take place at the Heinz Convention Center just very close to the steps of where the Boston Marathon will end. It will begin at 12 00 noon. Were told it will open with the boston pops. That will be followed by a special tribute honoring the four people who lost their lives, martin richard, 8 years old, crystal campbell, 29 years old, former restaurant manager lindsey lew, the Boston University grad student from china, and sean collier, 27 years old, you remember him, the m. I. T. Officer who lost his life after he was ambushed by the suspects. The mayor, bostons mayor will be speaking during the tribute as well as governor Duvall Patrick and Vice President joe biden will be here to lend his support. Following the tribute what were going to see is a flag raising ceremony at the finish line of the Boston Marathon and that will be followed by a moment of silence. Chris, i think one woman summed it up the best in terms of how people are feeling here today. Shes the manager at the restaurant where the second bomb exploded. When i talked to her about this city coming together, she said, jason, today is not a city coming together, its a community. Chris . Strong point, jason, strong point. We both spent a lot of time up there. I was up there yesterday. Everybody is coming together. We saw the mayor walking in and out of shops and people are really trying to get that sense of community. It will be very needed, the words boston strong are everywhere you look. Part of that is because when one is taken many feel the loss. Coming up on the show youre going to meet a grandma you will never forget. We met her last year after her granddaughter was killed in the bombings. A year later she slars what the family was dealt with since crystal was taken and the sign she says she has received from her beloved granddaughter. Grandma lillian will make your morning. Stay with us for that. Youre going to love it. So looking forward to that. Thank you for that. Lets take a look at the headlines. Five days of scathing crossexamination in the Oscar Pistorius murder trial come to an end. The prosecution finished its grilling of the olympianian by slamming his story of events. The states relentless scrutiny led pistorius to break down today say he is not sure who is to blame for her death. Obamacare may not drive up Health Care Costs as much as previously thought. The joint committee on taxation shows premiums are only likely to rise about 3 in 2015. Far less than many had been predicting. The overall cost for empty ming the law is expected to run 5 billion less than expected. But less money and penaltys will be collected because the administration decided to delay the employer coverage mandate. Guess what day it is. Its april 15th, tax day. What . Make the sound. Most people have already fooimd filed already. The irs has t gotten 3 4 of the returns it expects to get this tax season. Most have filed electronically. The agency says do not let that heart bleed Internet Security bug discourage you from filing online. But you do want to beware of a phone scam. Fake irs agents are calling and asking for your personal information. Do not fall for that. Its already bad enough. Its already bad enough. Dont let that phone bug get to you but that new federal tax rate is quite a bite in the butt cheeks. I dont want to end on taxes. I want to leave you thank you, michaela. I feel the love. Did you see over night the wonders in the heaven above, the moon in crimson red, the color of blood just hours ago . No biblically prophecy came true, its a total eclipse. The earth passing between the sun and moon placing a burnt copper color. If you missed it like many under the cloudy skies, in the east, many more wonders on the way. Three more such blood moons are expected to rise over the next couple years. So you havent missed your only opportunity. Folks in the west, if youre still up this morning, a lot of people in los angeles, good morning, they went to the observatory and they had a beautiful view of it. They had clear skies and able to see it. Like a plethora of blood moons this year. Thats huge. Turning into a good thing. Can we john, can we show that shot again of the blood moon . Test ourg cape its here on new day. Oh. Look at that. Beautiful. I think its very pretty. Its beautiful. Its very beautiful. The word blood, blood moon. Crimson moon. Without blood, we dont have life, right . I know. The crimson moon. I tell you what, there was funny voice every time you say it. I was looking around, science was with me on this, hey, can you see the moon . Im looking out the window as i woke up my wife. Why are you looking out the window . I couldnt say im looking for the blood moon. No blood moon, no beautiful crimson moon is worth waking up the spouse. Sleeping spouses must sleep. Immediately went with the obvious excuse, i cant find chacha. Why are youing looking out the window . Got to go. Got to go. Coming up next on new day, the search now depends on an underwater drone scanning the ocean floor. Were going to look at the challenges that the bluefin21 is facing. And were leaning more about the man who allegedly went on a shooting rampage at two jewish facilities in kansas. What watch groups say theyve known for years about this guy. Ameriprise asked people a simple question in retirement, will you outlive your money . Uhhh. 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