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CNNW New Day September 2, 2014

After him and the top leadership but its unclear whether he or any of the top leaders were killed, and thats what the u. S. Wants to assess before they say any more because earlier this year in about january there were several strikes trying to target him, and it doesnt look like obviously they were able to. This comes just a day after a group of al shabaab fighters set up a car bomb at a prison in the capital mogadishu. They launched gunfire against military members to free members of their group who rin mates. Kate. A lot more we need to learn about this operation and its success, full. Great to see you so much. Lets figure out some more right now. Lets bring in will gettis, a security manager and managing director of International Corporate protection and mr. Davide ross. So elise laid it out there well. Let me start with you, davide, they tried to get this guy twice now. Is this about imminent threats or Ongoing Operations . I think ongoing threats is much more likely. When it comes to someone like godain, essentially targeting of him is going to be driven by intelligence. Theres also similarly a raid, a u. S. Led raid in the same area last year, just about a year ago, and it was unsuccessful ultimately, but that indicates that the u. S. Will strike where it has an opportunity. Where it has an opportunity. Will, lets pick up on that point. Why was there an opportunity in this situation . We do know that there are concerns there has been kind of a closing in personnel coming back to somalia to come back to join shabaab. Why was this an opportunity . Godain was a mover and shaker within al shabaab and has been trying to consolidate al qaeda assets in the region and especially sort of providing that catch mentality within somalia for transnational insurgents to join their cause. Godain being a driving force is a key instrument and part of the whole structure and to take him out will somewhat dismantle al shabaabs leadership and to focus on him, particularly from the intelligence borne from the African Forces and the smell forces, those forces carrying out reconnaissance is a critical part of the campaign to try to undermine al shabaabs undertaking of movement. As weve seen in mogadishu, they are getting braver in some of their strategies. That was an obvious concern, and did you hear from the people on Ground Fighting against them that when there was word that the allies were coming in, they all but disappeared, the al shabaab fighters, so that was an immediate positive impact in that battle front. Davide, everybody has isis on the brain, and the question will be why are you going after this al qaeda offshoot in north africa when you have this situation so syria in syria and north iraq . Its our mistake to take our eye off the ball when it comes to al qaeda. Al qaeda is very much being underestimated right now for a variety of reasons, one of which deals precisely with isis is we know that prior to osama bin ladens death he really wanted to rebrand al qaeda. He believed that its brand had been very much diminished by the excessesch Abu Musab Al Zarqawi which led al qaeda in iraq and then became isis later on and with isis erase it gives itself an opportunity to rebrand itself a more rational and moderate voice of jihadism. Theres more risk of money channeling into the al qaeda networks, even those very moderate in their outlook are looking at whether the al nusra front in syria should be seen as a counterweight to isis and thats really problematic and i think will be a real problem for us in the long term. Al qaeda as the more moderate voice of extremism in islam. That is a truly relative and scary threat. But what does this mean in terms of the likelihood of action in syria and or Northern Iraq . Will, what does it think, that it makes it more likely that you see more military action . Well, i think its inevitable somewhat and certainly, again, following what your guest was saying. The biggest concern that we have is a lot of groups merging together. Isis was borne from an al qaeda front so you have a consolidation of terrorist groups, and as youve seen this before youll have various groups working together sharing Resource Resources and in this particular region its important to dismantle it, where possible, and otherwise you have an amalgam of groups aiming towards the same goals and to focus on al shabaab is critical, particularly with the weak borders surrounding somalia and their ability to spread. Davide, to come back to a point you made earlier on is just because the focus, certainly the media focus son isis, that doesnt mean that the war on terror doesnt have several fronts that demand urgent action. Absolutely. One of them is sunday somalia. On sunday we could see a major attack launched on one of the prisons in mogadishu and you also have islamist militias that took over the u. S. Embassy in tripoli. It had been abandoned before that. Because of these groups the Libyan Government is unable to exercise basic functions of government. A number of other areas in nigeria where boca haram captured a major city so all of that indicates, yes, theres a lot of different front going on and interconnectedness between these actions and we shouldnt think that syria and iraq is the only thing that matters. Rear admiral john kirby gives us the information coming out of the Defense Department about this. Any word from either of you two as to whether this was deemed successful in terms of getting the leadership . From my point of view theres very Little Information coming out at the moment but certainly i would say that the strikes by uavs and drones will be more successful because the reconnaissance efforts by special forces have been considerably more successful in determining the whereabouts of various key people. However, al shabaab is a formidable form. They are not stupid and they will keep move themselves around, particularly their figureheads. It will be interesting to learn what was deemed success and was there any ground component to it that involved nonsomali fighters. Thank you very much to boast you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Kate . This operation is expected to be one of many items on the agenda for the president as he heads to europe today. Hes arriving first in estonia before the nato summit in wales on thursday and friday later this week. The russian aggression in ukraine will be a top priority as they are looking to rein in russian leader Vladimir Putin and president obama will be looking to build support for the fight against isis while facing severe criticism at home for being too caution in his policy towards the terrorist group. Cnns Michelle Kosinski joins us this morning with more on the agenda. A lot on the the president s plate right now. Reporter hi, kate, its hard to believe it was only less than a year ago we were talking about nato having something of an identity crisis, like what do we do now and then russia effectively invaded ukraine and now the talk is of expanding membership and Rapid Response forces. How is president obama ending up in the sleepy baltic capital of estonia this afternoon . Just take a look at its neighbor and russias unceasing actions down the road in ukraine. And suddenly this addedon meeting with leaders of estonia, latvia and lithuania in order to reaffirm our ironclad commitment to collective defense. Now, once again, just as we commemorate the start of world war ii, nato matters. Ukraine is looking to join. Natos secretarygeneral is looking at creating a Rapid Response military force ready for emergency defense in 48 hours, something that the white house sports. The sum mid will now look at what to do next about russia as europe draws up new sanctions. Yet another crisis looms by people of the west and they are looking at western passports fighting with syria. The military action to go after terrorists. Uncompromising action. Reporter the president had a bit of a rough long weekend in the press following those words on syria. We dont have a strategy yet. With headturning reaction from both parties. The russian bear is encountering the obama kitty cat. Hes very cautious and maybe in this instance too cautious. Reporter president has made clear hes loathe to use military force unless its well thought out and will work, has repeatedly emphasized the need for a Strong International coalition on both russia and isis and now this nato summit has plenty on the table. So now among the goals of this summit are to assess the effectiveness of the International Response, not only to russia but to isis and to see what more can be done. Kate . Michelle kosinski at white house for us, a lot at stake. A lot going on around the world and here at home. Michaela has more headlines for us. Here are the headlines at 11 moments ago. More than 100 family members of isis attacks has stormed Iraqs Parliament building. They are demanding more information about the fate of the victims and for their bodies to be returned to them. This attack happened in june at a camp for iraqi forces near kick rite. Family members refusing to leave until officials address their concerns. Well keep an eye on that. The first human safety trials will begin today for an experimental ebola vaccine. Three Healthy Human volunteers will be tested at the International Institute of health. If found safe it will be given to another group of volunteers and some are warning the Ebola Outbreak could become a Global Crisis and is issuing a stayathome order for nonessential government workers for another month. Ill speak with tom freeden who just returned from a trip from west africa. Protesters in support of Michael Brown and his family shut down a major road in the city despite a request from the brown family to delay blockade. Several demonstrators showed up along interstate 270 and impeded traffic before police arrived. Their goal was to be on roadway for four and a half minutes, symbolizing the four and a half hours Michael Browns body was left in the street after he was gunned down by a Police Officer in ferguson. The hunt is on for the hackers who stole and posted naked photos of Hollywood Alisters including actress Jennifer Lawrence. The fbi and apple are both now investigating how hackers obtained the private photos. The images were apparently accesseded from apples icloud online storage service. A spokeswoman for lawrence calls the hacking a flagrant violation of privacy and says lawrence has contacted authorities. A little later in the show well talk about brett larson we all use the icloud. Need to figure out how to keep the cloud stuff. Ive long been suspect of the cloud. Ill tell you, i heard the story, my interest went the same place, i dont have any interest in their pictures but what about ours. Not those types of pictures, not that i have any. Come on, now, my mother is watching. If they can get to a celebrity, what about everybody else. And sorts of other information held through the icloud. And most importantly what is an icloud . I have no idea. Its a conspiracy. 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Now with a 100 bill credit for every business line you add. The white house calls release of three americans held in north korea a top priority in response to those unprecedented interviews with intelligent. Kenneth bae, Jeffrey Fowle and Matthew Miller are all being held for alleged crimes against the skate. Correspondent will ripley had rare access speaking to them under close supervision. The three men pleaded with the Obama Administration to help bring them how many now. Will ripley has just left the secretive country and is joining us live now from beijing. Will, unpress denned access, a unique opportunity and quite a surprise for you and the crew. Tell us more. Reporter it was surreal, kweet. We requested to speak with these three detained americans at the beginning of our trip to north korea. We actually made a couple of different requests and each time we were told it would be virtually impossible to speak with them. We were there covering a completely Different Event and following around these wrestlers here for an International Wrestling tournament doing stories about sports diplomacy when in the middle of one of those twohour tours we were pulled off the tour and told we had to get in a van. I pulled out my cell phone and started taking the video you see right now of us racing down this empty road through rural north korea towards the capital city pyongyang, and when we arrived in the city, we pulled up to a building. It was a hotel and Conference Center in an area of town that outside and tourists are not allowed in. Its not on the the governmentapproved route. We thought we might be speaking to a government bushel, but when we went to the front door and stood there they came out and briefed us and said we would be speaking with the three detained americans. We had five minutes with each and we had to follow a very strict set of guidelines and were told if we strayed beyond the approved topics the consequences would be severe. I do need help from the u. S. Government. This interview is my final chance to push the American Government into helping me. Im getting desperate for help. The three americans detained in north korea uniting in a clear and possibly coached message. Send a u. S. Envoy. I do believe that special envoy needs to come in order to resolve the situation im in right now. An opportunity for maybe bill clinton to come back, george bush as his turn as an elder statesman to try his hand at that. North koreas leader kim jongun has previously shown no willingness to release kenneth bae or the other two men. So far the u. S. State department has not revealed a plan to free the three men held right now, a spokesman only saying, quote, we continue to work actively to secure these three u. S. Citizens release. If there was ever a time to step up efforts, its now. Reporter family of kenneth bae pleads for the u. S. To respond, bae serving 15 years hard labor for what north korea calls a christian plot to undermine the regime. He is an american citizen, a father of three, and, you know, he is pleading for help from our government. The message has been consistent all along. Its up to our leaders to seek his amnesty. Reporter bae asked his family to pray for him saying his health is failing, working six days a week in a labor camp. Its been very difficult sleeping at night, and working in the field every day. Reporter bae and his sister say he needs help now. Primary concern is his health and that theres some pem nernt damage being done. We need to have him come home. Reporter kate. The message delivered by the three americans was remarkably similar. They all said their situation is urgent or desperate. They said they are being treated humanely, and they also said they want the u. S. Government to send a special envoy so one would assume perhaps they were spoken to or coached ahead of time, just like we were spoken to ahead of timed about the parameter for these interviews. Behind the camera what you didnt see, kate, a group of people, north korean Government Officials timing us and monitoring our every move and photographing and videotaping us as well. We didnt end up in the pyongyang newspaper that i picked up on plane, but it wouldnt surprise me if photos and video of our interview ended up on statecontrolled media in north korea sometime in the future. I did want to ask you, will, more about the circumstances, more that you can speak more freely now that youre out of country. I wanted to get a sense of what it was like heading into the interviews. You said going on you didnt know who you would be speaking with almost until you were walking into the room. Were they nervous . What were the circumstances . Yeah, i mean, the way it works often in north korea, especially journalists who have been in there multiple times, things were highly unpredict

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