See their loved ones again. The president of indonesia and the ceo of airasia are on their way to surabaya we want to go to paula hancock, she got back to land minutes ago after being out on a search effort to see the search efforts firsthand, paula . Well john just speaking to some of the officials here we have new information about what will happen to some of the victims that are now being found at the location. We understand from officials here that they will be brought to this island they will be brought to a port about an hour away from here. The reason theyre not going to the closer island is simply because the water is not deep enough to accommodate the navy ship that will be transporting them. We understand that the bodies are being retrieved from the water. Its not clear how long it will be until they come back do shore. But the trip will take about seven hours. So it will be some time. And of course as you can see, the light is fating now, its just after 6 00 in the evening, theres not much light left so for the helicopters that are helping retrieve the bodies it will be difficult as well. And in the town about an hour away from here on wednesday, tomorrow we will see the National TransportSafety Commission arriving according to the governmental head of this region thats basically to start the initial investigation. And as we understand it from officials at this point, the debris will go to the airport there and then the victims themselves will be brought to the port. Now of course we got the news that the plane had likely been found as we were out an fishing boat with a local fishing crew. On the search and rescue operation, it was a very somber trip back. They were very sad that the plane had necessarily been found. But there was no trace of survivors at this time. And they said that their hearts were heavy and that they certainly wanted to send their condolences to the families. Now that there is this debris field, how will it change the operations Going Forward . Will the vessels be able to stay out overnight, stay in the area . When will helicopters be able to get back out over again . Well some vessels have been staying out, all night, anyway they cant do too much when its dark. They do have spotlights they are sending all the assets that they need into that particular area. So obviously the more hightech assets will be very useful for them to try to retrieve some of the victims. But also to try to retrieve some of the technical equipment from the plane that obviously could give them some indication as to what happened. I did ask the head of the search and rescue operation here do you have everything you need . He said at this point they do because their focus is on the people on the passengers and crew and to make sure that they can retrieve all the victims, then they can turn their minds exactly how to retrieve the body of the plane, if in fact it is in that location. Grim work for the hours ahead. Paula, thank you so much for that some of the families of the 162 people aboard the plane learning the devastating news as they watched graphic images on indonesian television. Their response understandably met with tears, and anger. Will ripley joins us live with that part of the story. Will . Michaela this is just an awful ordeal that these families have already gone through. Many of them just hoping for a mikhail that perhaps there may have been some survivors, which now as the pictures come in and the details come in seems to be impossible. As were getting report from reuters, 40 bodies now have been recovered and the families face even more hardship in the days ahead. Because once these bodies are recovered, theyre going to be taken to area hospitals where family members will then have to identify these people who are being pulled out of the water after being in the water now for a couple of days or perhaps longer and in the cases of some victims who are yet to be recovered. Its a horrible situation. The families are being kept away from the press and away from the news cameras. But they do have access to the live pictures that are shown on the local news in indonesia where bodies were shown on camera. And people were reacting in horror as they were seeing that. And its something unimaginable that these families are going through right now, for the families of mh 370, this comes as a double blow this has been an emotional shock for them this week and now they still dont have closure. But these 162 families this is the beginning of closure for them but very difficult times ahead. Our hearts are with them as are our thoughts and prayers. The u. S. Navy is sending a guided missile destroyer to help other nations in this ongoing recovery effort. Our rene marsh joins us from washington to tell bus the u. S. Role now that a debris field has been found. When we first heard that the u. S. Navy was going to be dispatching the uss sampson it was a different mission. But things have changed over the last few hours. So more about this ship. Youre looking at a photo of it. It has two helicopters on board. The helicopters usually used for search and rescue missions and also cargo lift. What we may see is they will be able to assist perhaps in recovering some of the wreckage that is floating on top of the ocean. We also know that this particular ship does have sonar equipment. However, at this point it is unclear if the specific sonar equipment on board this ship would be compatible with this specific operation. We know that its usually used to detect a submarine in the water but could it be used to identify a part of the plane that is sitting on the seabed and be able to identify the plane versus a heap of rocks . Its unclear if its sophisticated enough to do that. We have reached out to the navy for clarification on that. Also we do know that the u. S. Could be called in for use of other equipment. Now that this is a recovery mission, we know that there will be need for remoteoperated vehicle, cranes we could see u. S. Companies supply that. At this point, we know the ntsb only monitoring the french investigators seem to be taking the lead on this one. The underwater submersibles will be vital in terms of the investigation. Rene thanks for that. Want to bring in mary sciavo former director engineer for the u. S. Department of transportation and now an attorney for victims and family who is suffer through these disasters and also author of the upcoming book Malaysia Flights 370, why it disappeared and why its only a matter of time before it happens again. David i want to start with the most disturbing news the most current news reuters reporting that 40 bodies have been recovered from the water this has got to be so difficult for the families. And our hearts go out to them this is now also part of this investigation. When you hear that 40 bodies have been recovered from the water after an obvious air disaster what does that tell you perhaps about what happened . There two things we can get from that one is the fact that the bodies were closely located. They hadnt spread out. Which would indicate that there is a large portion of the airplane thats intact. It doesnt appear that there was breakup of the aircraft it appear it is broke up on impact. Mary is that something that makes sense to you, the idea that the plane did hit the water intact . Yes. The bodies and the other wreckage that they have so far and the indication that they also believe that the getting of the black box is really pretty much imminent. I think thats pretty safe to say that its intact and it broke up on water. We have seen with their own eyes from some of the witnesses, bodies in the water. Also part of the investigation, the door an emergency exit door. Pieces of aluminum. These tell you anything . Well in its too early to tell. I havent seen all the photos yet because of the fact that theyve been edited out at the moment. Whats concerning to me is it appears theres pieces of liferaft. That would indicate to me that these liferaft they dont deploy automatically themselves and the fact that the one emergency door separated by itself may indicate that it was actually ejected from the aircraft and that the emergency raft was deployed somehow. So that gives us hope that perhaps the aircraft did go as one piece and there may have been or may still be some survivors and we can keep hope for that. They are out there searching at this time. Mary the debris field, the pattern here the objects that you see, what does it tell you then now about what might have happened in the air, about what might have gone wrong, if it didnt break up in the air, what does that mean . Well it means most likely that the plane was of course as everyone already knows, going through extreme weather. But it does continue to point to some kind of an aerodie dmamic stall. Theres a reason that the plane fell from the sky pretty close to the last radar hit. Some kind of mechanical issue, not an aerodynamic stall, sometimes the planes can limp on for hundreds of miles. But on an aerodynamic stall, you fall from the sky where you are. And it does look like a wreckage pattern and the kindwreckage you find from other aerodynamic stall cases that have ended up in the water. You have these pieces of evidence you have these images you have this location to start from. Where what do do you to track back to find the fuselage . To find the black boxes . Well one of the things i wanted to touch on first and first clue that i see is the fact that the aircraft is actually back beyond where it had been pinged. In the radar it was found here it turned and went back the other direction, that would tell us one of two things either it was a flat stall at which the aircraft fell and found its own direction as it picked up air speed and then ended up going back in the other direction. Or another thing it might tell us is that the pilot had recognized the risk and was not able to get through the clouds and had made the decision to try to turn around. Thats the first piece of the clue. Going forward, the first thing to do after the bodies are taken care of. That is the First Priority it always is the First Priority is to do the respect that are due these passengers and to get the bodies recovered and to look to see if theres any survivors. The second thing you do the most important clue is the black boxes, the cockpit voice recorder and the flight dat recorder. The fingthy i would do is try to get that out there, look for pings, calculating the drift. Luckily the drift is in a circular motion it hasnt drifted hundreds of miles off or anything like that. In Shallow Water it should be easier to find than in other situations. Mary you deal with families of victims of incidents like this. What is it like in these moments . Its such a disturbing moment on the one hand to see the bodies in the water to find the debris to know that the plane did go down. But on the other hand theres a closure here that the families of flight 370 dont have. I wont call it closure. Theres really no such thing, the families tell me. No matter how much time goes past theres no closure. They learn to live with the difference, they have a new identity after the crash, theyre the family of an air crash victim and thats with them forever. Theyre able to go in the work or overdrive mode. Search for answers, they want to know what to do they want to know how to honor their loved ones, i can tell you until the last passenger is accounted for and since there is indication that theres a piece of liferaft here a life vest there families will hold out hope until the very end. Until once they have the debris field, its important to work very efficiently, quickly and thoroughly and they will. Just keep at it until every person is identified. For example, twa 800, the one off of long island in the water there was remains from every single passenger identified. Mary sciavo david soucie thank you very much. They will follow the news as long as they possibly can. Michaela . 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Support us at redcross. Org our continuing coverage continues is of the crash of airasia flight 8501. Officials in indonesia are all but certain that bodies found off Borneo Island is that of the missing flight. The discovery pri as measure of closure and expected grief for the families theres still much we dont know. Many you have been asking us questions we want to sift through some of the things we know and dont know with cnn analyst david gallow an oceanographer, he helped discover the wreckage of air France Flight 447 and cnn aviation analyst, les abeen an Airline Pilot and contributing editor for flight magazine. The families are learning the reality of this discovery, it brings some measure of closure. Lets talk about the investigation and things that were going to be learning and things we know and dont know. First of all we know in terms of the airplane the pilot asked to increase altitude to 38,000 feet due to weather. What we dont know is how urgent the need was that he felt and why no mayday was called. Les, what does that tell you as a commercial pilot about how quickly things may have transpired in the course of events that led to the crash . Last night i had the opportunity to hear the first transmissions on the ground they asked for pushback, they asked for the clearance and everything sounded very typical, very nonchalant like we would any normal day. What i would like to see if we can get to the last transmission when they requested the deviation in the altitude change what the inflection of the voice was. If theres any way of determining that. And whether he was just doing that as a result of bad ride that he was experiencing or he was seeing something on the radar. The urgency with reference to the mayday that would be part of that. If the man was dealing with or the crew was dealing with the situation that was very urgent the last people that they want to talk to is air Traffic Control. They want to control their airplane its aviate navigate communicate. Mayday calls will not always happen. Correct. What we know and what we dont know the actions of the pilot as you just mentioned were routine. Until the plane lost contact. What we dont know is if any flight instruments were damaged by weather. Youre instrumental in the air france investigation. We know that the instruments played a critical role. What questions do you have what thoughts do you have about perhaps the role of instruments in this . Well were going to have to wait michaela. In the case of air france 447, the plane was, found in several miles of water beneath the Atlantic Ocean. I dont recall looking, what the results were looking at the cockpit instrumentation, certainly they did play an important role. Well have to wait to see until the fuselage is found and then the cockpit, the shape of the instruments and see what the black boxes tell us the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder. And to see if your instruments go out as a pilot i find that unlikely michaela. I think there was some sort of mechanical situation, was it a result of the thunderstorm. The man had 20,000 hours of total time. This is an experienced guy. The captain and even the copilot is able to they were handling an airplane probably in a stressful turbulent situation, but something went wrong. I feel that something in my gut says that beyond that they were dealing with Something Else. And you dont know what that is . I hate to go to comparisons to 447 at this time. Because its way too preliminary in the investigation. Heres another point that we know. The we know the java sea is a major shipping area and relatively shallow. What we dont know and its interesting to me is if anyone on nearby ships spotted a plane going down. We have not heard any reports, david, of ships in the area other planes fishermen even weve heard nothing. What do you make of that . Its again when youre looking at a map it seems like a fairly small body of water. But when youre out there, its huge and the horizon is often five or six miles away. When youre out there its a big ocean thats out there. Thanks to all of you who have been participating via twitter. The first question, is there a possibility, les that lightning struck the plane and knocked out communication . How realistic is that . Its not likely. Airplanes in this day and age are bonded where if there is a electrical charge that hits the airplane its actually discharged out a wing tip or through a tail a thing called a static wick a wire that comes off some of the extremities of the airplane. Is it possible that it could have knocked out some form of the electrical system . Yeah it is but i dont see that as being a likely scenario. Its comforting to many of us who fly, knowing that an airplane can withstand a lightning strike. David another question from twitter we havent we heard an explanation of why the planes emergency beacon is not pinging . Well the ones the theres two sets of them. One of them wont go off in water. The other one, has to be done manually a system. That would explain it. Why there isnt something thats ejected upon impact . Is a good question. And i dont have an answer for that thats an airline question. Thats an airline question to be sure. Gentlemen thank you so much were going to ask you to continue to send in your questions, tweet them to us using the 8501qs. We are breaking down every new detail as we follow breaking news bodies and debris have been recovered, believed to be from flight airasia flight 8501. How the expanded search could have helped speed up the search process. Protected. Given new hope. During the subaru share the love event, subaru owners feel it, too. Because when you take home a new subaru we donate 250 dollars to helping those in need. 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