We talk about draining the swamp. This is one of the first steps. Reporter as they make headway on some aspects of the transition, other parts are still slow moving. Trumps team has not yet contacted the pentagon, state department or other federal agencies to inform them about the transition with major washington agencies saying theyre still left in the dark. But trumps team says theyre moving forward on this today. Ready to announce their socalled landing team of the team that will deploy and interact with the department of justice and state, defense and National Security and other agencies to follow. We made tremendous progress in giving the president elect some ideas on how to move forward with his core team and members of cabinet. Reporter a flurry of meetings lined up for president elect, including nikki haley a former trump detractor. Thats not who we want as president. Reporter now under consideration for secretary of state. Meantime, new reports suggest that Jared Kushner, ivanka trumps husband, could wind up with top National Security clearance and become a key adviser to trump. Trumps team rejecting concerns over nepotism and a potential conflict of interest. Jareds, obviously, been a very important part of this campaign and hes someone that the president elect trusts very much. What that role is, like anyone else, up to the president elect. Reporter the Transition Team continuing to dispute reports of internal disarray and infighting. Its false to say its not going well. Reporter this as the head of the transition, Vice President elect mike pence, sat down with joe biden wednesday. Biden promising his successor that hell be available 24 7 for advice. No administration is ready on day one. We werent ready on day one. But im confident on day one everything will be in good hands. Reporter and later today president elect donald trump will be meeting with japanese Prime Minister abe here at trump tower. This is notable because this is his first facetoface, inperson meeting with a foreign leader since meeting the president. Thanks, sunlen for all of that. We have cnn political reporter errol louis and abbie philip and david gregory. Abby, ill start with you since we were just having this conversation. Donald trump is going to ban lobbyists from serving in the white house. Isnt that already a law . He is extending a policy that has been in place throughout the Obama Administration. President obama started that. Yes. And hes continuing that. He doesnt have to do that. Wait a minute, but lobbyists can, at the same time, be a lobbyist and serve in the white house . Well, not right now. But hes continuing the policy of preventing him from doing that. He didnt have to do that to begin with and i think a lot of people in the federal government who would complain that, hey, like, you got to have lobbyists. They know what theyre talking about. But the drain the swamp policy, this fits in. He is extending the term after they leave the white house which is they cant lobby and they cant make that money. David gregory, you know, i feel like going after lobbyists is an easy target. Who is going to stand up for lobbyists . Like rooting for the death star. But its consistent with his message. Then president elect obama had a similar message, which is i think a reminder of the same effect that obama had that trump is having. A true outsider status and coming to washington and saying, look, things are going to be different here and the Obama Administration had some difficulties with that keeping to it and keeping lobbyists outside of the fray. And i think that the trump team will have a similar difficulty. But, this may speak to some of the discord with the christie transition in terms of who was brought into the fold initially and their lobbying credentials. But, again, nothing surprising about this given what trump has campaigned on and what his values were coming into washington and wanted to shake things up. But is that what drain the swamp means, errol. Is that it or just all the corruption that not even lobbyists look, politically speaking, drain the swamp means do something to push back the influence of the lobbyists. So, you can do that a number of different ways. So, in this case, you have one particular configuration. Now, does that mean lobbyists are going to be absent . If you have lobbyists running your transition committees, which is what donald trump has, theyll set the framework and hire all the people and maybe their work is done and they dont need to dirty their hands with serving in the administration. They picked all the people who are now beholden to them to have those jobs in the administration. Different kinds of swamps, arent there . There is a swamp that is filled with lobbyists and then a swamp you could conceive of a swamp filled with family members, couldnt you . Now this continuing notion that Jared Kushner, the soninlaw to donald trump will end up in the administration. The wall street journal has a fascinating article saying kushner could end up with a Senior Adviser role within the white house which would be unprecedented which some people say is against the law and others say the president himself would not be beholden to these nepotism role. I think lobbyists are one thing and the easiest thing for average people and just sort of rank of file and americans to understand. But there are a lot of other ways. There is family members, wall street. I mean, were talking about potentially senior officials who are coming straight from wall street into the Trump Administration and the kushner influence is very real and very significant right at this moment. He is the driving force of a lot of these changes were seeing in the trump transition and i think nat is a key signal that hes not going away any time soon. Theyll try to find some way for him to continue to be a part of this process. Clearly, theyll have to deal with ethics laws and nepotism laws and, i suspect, they will deal with that if he doesnt take any money, for example. Thats the loophole, right, da david. Hes not even a blood relative. Look, i actually dont think its that unusual that an incoming president would want somebody that he really trusts. Who has been a major adviser. Clearly, kushner has been throughout the campaign and now in the early point of this administration. You know, Valerie Jared very close friend of the obamas had a Senior Adviser role and there was friction in the white house as a result of that because she could go into so many different areas. And, again, i think any president wants somebody that theyre very comfortable with. If its his soninlaw in this case, hes going to find a way to bring him in. There are reasons, though, that the nepotism laws are in place and reasons that there has been resistance over the last 0, 30 years or since the kennedys, frankly, in place because you dont want the idea that youre doing business or doing government work to enrich your family. The trumps have got to erect some barriers, if theyre going to do this. They have to make clear that ivankas bracelet business isnt going to be benefitted by having Jared Kushner as part of the security. Some of this is new and unprecedented. What you just described of the bracelet and family members and almost impossibility of creating a true, blind trust for the assets of this particular president elect. Thats uncharted territory. Thats a whole other category. Anybody can google 531 u. S. 10 and look at the nepotism law and it very clearly says it applies to soninlaws. He cannot be an employee of the president. What if he doesnt take the money . The money isnt the issue. It doesnt have anything to do with the salary. You cant appoint him to various commissions, according to the law. Its pretty crystal clear. On the other hand, you can have the the president has the right to get advice and counsel with almost anybody in the world. He can have his soninlaw or anybody else give him all kind of different advice. But very much like you said with valerie jarrett, somebody with that portfolio floating around who can sort of talk to the president and give him advice and counsel. If he wants more than that and running an agency and having dozens or hundreds of employees and making himself felt in that way throughout the government, thats off limits for family members. The argument here is that i think that well probably see this from the trump camp is that you are never going to stop the president from going home and consulting with his spouse about whats going on in the world and whats going on with his policies in the white house. And i think that well start to see this argument coming from trump camp that, you know, if Jared Kushner is advising his fatherinlaw, talking to him about the world. Talking to him about broad strategy issues, theres no way that law could prevent that from being the case. Winning lets you do a lot of things. Winning the white house gives you wide latitude to get a lot of stuff done that you wanted. Also gives you the latitude to meet with people who you may not have liked very much or who might not have liked you very much during the campaign. One name that pops out, nikki haley. The governor of South Carolina. She is going to meet with donald trump and people have been floating that nikki haley could wind up with a serious job like secretary of state. Donald trump was pretty harsh on her, too. I think this should be viewed as a positive sign. The politics is over, the campaign is over. Now its time to lead. I think that americans, no matter their political stripe should be pleased to see that donald trump is thinking about his political opponents, as well as his friends. Hes thinking a little bit more about diversity instead of just white men around him and is looking into the pool of talented governors around the country who have actually have executive experience. This should be a reassuring sign. Now, again, former governor, she will be vetted and scrutinized in terms of views of the world and how she might be as secretary of state. With a sitting governor as executive experience to run a major part of the government should be, i think, a reassuring sign to people. Panel, thank you. 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By getting you to a real doctor for an annual checkup. So go, know, and take control of your health. Doctor poses. Learn your key health numbers, and take control today. Hillary clinton made her first public appearance. She acknowledged it was a painful loss but pushed people to keep fighting for the cause. I know many of you are deeply disappointed about the results of the election. I am, too. More than i could ever express. But as i said last week, our campaign was never about one person or even one election. It was about the country we love and about building an america that is hopeful, inclusive and big hearted. I ask you to stay engaged. Stay engaged on every level. We need you. America needs you. Your energy, your ambition, your talent. Thats how we get through this. Want to bring back our panel. This was a speech to the childrens defense fund. A speech she had agreed to give before the election. It was also the first group that then president elect bill clinton spoke to in 1992. The symbolism here. What was supposed to be the symbolism for Hillary Clinton was obvious. Abby, you see Hillary Clinton there, losing sucks. I dont think there is any other way to say it. Shes trying to prove she is fighting through it. This is where she began her career after law school. The meaning for her is pretty significant here. That added to the emotion. She was trying to send a signal of what she is likely to be engaged with after the dust had settled from this election. Reverting back to some of the causes of her youth and some of the causes of her early career and also sending an Important Message to her supporters who she knows are devastated. Some of them, like her, didnt want taget out of bo get out of last week and democrats are strapping in for an extended period of powerlessness in washington. And thats something that is going to take a lot of energy to sort of persevere through so that they can go into the next cycle with some momentum. And, errol, she talked about things we can all relate to after some set back. Which is not wanting to get off the couch. Let me play for you what she says she has been experiencing. I have to admit coming here tonight wasnt the easiest thing for me. There have been a few times this past week when all i wanted to do was just to curl up with a good book or our dogs and never leave the house, again. I think helpful and healing for her supporters and democrats who feel the exact same way. To hear that shes going through that. Well, maybe. I have to say what was missing from the speech is any sense of sort of responsibility. Either for her personally, understandable, well give her a pass on that. But the Democratic Leadership has got to figure out what becomes of the old obama coalition, which clearly was not enough to sustain or transform into a Hillary Clinton winning coalition. Theyve got to figure out what they are going to do. Not too soon for that in this in her first public appearance she should have come out and been like, heres what we learned. I am just pointing out, it wasnt in the speech, but a really pressing issue. What she signaled by leaving this out is that she is not part of that discussion and going to be up to others and up to Chuck Schumer and elizabeth warren, the leadership of the Democratic Party. What they stand for, where do they go and how they are going to put it back together, again. Thats why nancy pelosi has not been able to close the deal with her own conference. The fact that she didnt get an early and unanimous vote of support, has people starting to wo wonder. You lose four straight elections in congress, somethings gone wrong. Go ahead, david. I think errol is right. I have a slightly different view. I dont think the obama coalition, i think she underperformed which speaks more to her campaign and her appeal as her as a candidate and i think democrats will recognize that. I think to errols point, the clintons, as harsh as it is to say are now part of the past of the democratic elite. They are not really going to chart the course to lead the way forward. Thats going to go to others. Younger people in the party, different kinds of visionaries because what speaks to the demographic change in the country, that speaks to the future demography in america. And the extent to which Hillary Clinton has a voice, i think she will have a voice. She still has 62 million votes and a lot of supporters. I think shes going to have to very carefully calibrate how she uses that influence in the shorter term before it really, that influence tends to fade. The problem, david gregory, is where is this next generation of Democratic Leaders of which you speak because they are not right now in any elected office. I mane, you look at the democrats right now who are in power, theyre all people who have been there for a long, long time. Chuck schumer who just took over the democrats in the senate, hes not a young guy. We dont know where he will choose to fight. Bernie sanders who spoke last night talked about inneed to stand up to the white house and issues like steve bannon. Hes not a young guy. Abby, i dont know if we know where democrats are going to choose to fight. The last eight or nine days havent really given us much of a road map. The steve bannon appointment, unanimity among the Democratic Party that theyre going to stand up and fight for that. Theyre just going to make a lot of noise. Theyre not going to get anywhere on that. Its actually very symbolic. One thing i heard in the last week talking to democrats is they feel like bannon and everything he represents is a huge road block for what they know they have to do, which is compromise on some things that they need to put on the table so that they can move forward in the next cycle. Those are Economic Issues. They cant get to Economic Issues if they are constantly being bombarded with this perception that the Trump White House is racist or xenophobic or sexist or what have you. You have labor leaders basically saying, look, we need to deal with this first so that we can talk about trade, so we can talk about infrastructure and talk about taxes. And i think thats where theyre headed. Not a lot of democrats are going to be very enthusiastic about this posture of compromise. But its something that i think Congressional Democrats believe that is not only necessary, but they have no choice at the end of the day. Errol, very quickly, you know new york politics almost better than anyone else. What is Chuck Schumers relationship Going Forward . Like a lazar some of the marginal members people that were in trump states can survive 2018. That is 100 of what he is worried about for the next 24 months. Try to steal some issues from them. There is actually a fair amount on trade and common issues. If it could help schumer maintain his caucus, thats what hes goin