And allows more flexibility with medicaid dollars. I respectfully disagree with her analysis. Im very concerned about the cost of insurance for older people with serious chronic illnesses. Its a race against the clock with Congress Going on recess this friday. Will they vote before then . I would like to delay the thing. Theres no way we should be voting on this next week. No way. Reporter the Health Care Effort was a big part of a conversation over the weekend, a very important retreat that was hosted, sponsored by the conservative mega donors, the Koch Brothers and their political network. The leaders of that network very critical of this legislation saying both the house and Senate Versions do not meet their goals, brianna. Suzanne malveaux, with criticism all around on capitol hill, President Trump is lashing out against president obama for, quote, doing nothing to stop russias interference in the 2016 election. Hes blasting his former rival, too. Cnns joe johns live at the white house with the latest. Reporter good morning, brianna. President trump in an interview as well as in tweets, the very same person raising doubts about russia meddling in the election, now raising questions about president obamas response to it and accusing him of doing nothing about it. The the president just issued tweets suggesting among other things that the Democratic National committee engaged in a big dim hoax by declining protection from hacking from the department of homeland security. I just heard today for the first time that obama knew about russia a long time before the election and he did nothing about it, but nobody wants to talk about that. The question is, if he had the information, why didnt he do something about it. Now, this is very much a revised take on an election where candidate trump seemed to be encouraging russia at one point, going as far as to get the call in that country to find thousands of deleted Hillary Clinton emails. It comes also after a report in the Washington Post suggesting that president obama struggled to come up with the right response to the russian meddling in the last election, especially given the fact he was concerned about being perceived as trying to tip the election in Hillary Clintons favor. Today we do expect to see the president here at the white house in a meeting with the indian prime minister. Lots to discuss. Lets bring in analyst Ron Brownstein and michael shear and senior policy correspondent from fox media sarah kliff. Ron brownstein, do you think theres a vote, do you think they can pass it as soon as this or next week . You never make money betting against Mitch Mcconnell. This is very difficult because i think theyre pullishing to the absolute maximum the two coalitions. On one hand you have a bill with a trillion dollars in tax cuts, 60 of which goes to the top 10 , the high earners who are the core of their financial coalition. On the other hand, you have a republican voter base that is increasingly centered on blue collar and older whites. If you look at the interactive map that the Keiser Family Foundation has put up about what this will do to premiums in some of the blue collar counties around the country, youre talking about premiums doubling for 6 oyearolds at modest income. Thats before you can get to the cuts. And also states struggling with the opioid epidemic, they are pushing to the max and its unclear to me whether they can get there i talked to a democratic senator last night who said you would never bet against Mitch Mcconnell, but they have the problem with the boat leaking at both ends. The conservatives saying it doesnt go far enough. The moderates saying it goes too far. Sarah, thats why the cold hard numbers are so difficult to see. Were waiting to see if the Congressional Budget Office releases its math today. What effect is that going to have on the perception of this bill by republicans who have their concerns . So i think the cbo report which we could see as soon as this afternoon, it will show millions losing coveragement we dont know if it will be as many as the house. But we are certainly talking about a situation where millions fewer people have coverage that under current law, under the Affordable Care act staying intact. I think for the more moderate senators, theyll have to make decisions about how much coverage loss are they okay with. This is a question snars get a lot. They dont want to give you a number saying i would be okay with x number of people losing coverage. Thats a decision that will face senators this week as they think about their vote. Time to do an important part of our job because the health and Human Services secretary did just that, sarah. He did put a number on it. He said no one will lose coverage and that premiums wont increase. And Kellyanne Conway went a step further. Here is what she said. These are not cuts to medicaid, george. This slows the rate for the future and allows governors more flexibility with medicaid dollars because theyre closest to the people in need. If youre currently in medicaid, became a medicaid recipient through the obamacare expansion, youre grandfathered in. Were talking about the future. Michael shear, what do you make of all that . Thats an interesting comment by Kellyanne Conway. It shows that its plain that the comments this white house wants to make are inconsistent with the actual bill itself. It shows how difficult it is for this white house to navigate the kinds of things sarah and ron were talking about. This is a difficult, complicated piece of legislation. When youre out there making promises that ultimately arent going to be kept because its impossible to see that people, some number of people wont lose coverage. If it were to pass in the future, those kinds of comments can come back to the white house in the form of political anger from constituencies that have been led to believe one thing and now find themselves in a different situation. Lets turn to russia now because this is something that donald trump is now acknowledging, that there was this meddling in the election, ron, but when he finally acknowledges that there was russian meddling, he is blaming president obama, blaming the Obama Administration, talking to democrats. There is criticism of the Obama Administration on this, but is this where the focus should be . This is just head spinning. First of all, for the president po say that he just learned that president obama knew about this the Intelligence Committee pout out a joint statement pointing to russian meddling in the election and the intrusion into the podesta and dnc emails. And a definitive report in january, we should say as well, a long definitive intelligence report. Hes been getting briefings for months and months about this. Its not new, youre right, ron. You can say president obama should have done more. Certainly many people on both sides of the aisle, kind of looking back would say that. To say they did nothing is not exactly right either. All the reporting is he talked directly to president putin at the apec meeting. They were focused primarily on the question of interference in the election tally, the Voter Registration and those kinds of questions. That seemed to be their principle focus. Lets not forget all this reporting also shows that at the critical moment in september of 2016 when they went to the congress and were looking for a bipartisan kind of commitment to have a robust response, the Senate Majority lead ever, Mitch Mcconnell basically threw cold water on it and said he was not convinced by the underlying evidence. The idea that obama was feckless alone i think is revisionist history of the highest order. Certainly going to be blame to go around. Sarah, you have do cut this against the urgency the democrats have right now. It is a good political salvo to look back and say, the democrats are so into it right now, obama didnt seem that into it then. However, trump is the president now. President donald trump. He has to own this, doesnt he . The spin is were not going to tell you what were going to do about it because that would make it less effective. I think it speaks to how polarized the media is right now and how its very easy to get whatever side of the story youre interested in believing. You see President Trump take advantage of the fact he could be talking about one narrative, democrats could be talking about a different one. There will be a lot of them that will tune into the side theyre interested in. Its easy to confirm a story line you want to confirm. I think thats something folks on both sides of the aisle, democrats and republicans, they really struggle with how do we get this message across to people who arent typically tuning in to our interviews and floor speeches. What do you think, michael, about this tweet weve seen from President Trump where hes accusing Hillary Clinton of colluding with the dnc. I think some people say the dnc definitely had a preference here, even if there was collusion, lets say, hes putting this up against the concept of collusion as weve heard people use it to raise concerns about what we heard with the Trump Campaign and associates. Two interesting things about the last 24 hours of tweets. One is the very sophisticated way he uses the word collusion. Its not an accidental word. Hes trying to do a kind of equivalency with the kinds of collusion that people are investigating in the russia case, and as sarah said, it mixes up the narratives. I think also the other thing to think about on his tweets on russia in the last day or so, is that it shows what weve always known about his tweets, which is that he renaktsz tacts in the m something hes read, something hes seen on cnn. Theres no attempt to be consistent. Hell say whatever is his gut reaction and he thinks the proper thing in the moment. When the Washington Post runs its story, he says, wow, wow, i just found out about that when, in fact, as ron said, its impossible to believe he just found out about it but when he wrote the tweet, that will make for the good political hit at that moment. Thats the way he uses twitter. Its very much in the moment. Ron, we do know the president watches the show. Well give him a little free brownstein advice. Any of the stuff going on now, does it help with his most formidable reelection challenge which is growing his base. He can blame obama all he wants. It certainly resonates with the base, but does it help him grow . Look, i think the health care thing actually raises the question of whether you are eroding the base. Historically republicans have held together a coalition that aims its Economic Policy primarily at people at the top, has cultural and racial policy for lower, middle income and poorer whites. It so starkly divides the costs and benefits of the legislation. One of the things that made President Trump a different kind of republican to use the old phrase that bill clinton used, a different kind of democrat, was he promised he would protect Social Security and medicare and medicaid. This is something that is much closer to what paul ryan and Mitch Mcconnell and many of the conservatives in the congress have wanted to do. By the way, one quick final point, the argument from Kellyanne Conway this is not a cut, its restraining future growth, that was the argument of gingrich in 1994 and 1995 when they shut down the government. They didnt win it then. There will be millions who lose access to medicaid. Whatever you call it, it is a radical retrenchment of the program that goes beyond undoing what the Affordable Care act act did to change medicaid in a way that would make it a much smaller role in the provision of health care. Very important point. Ron brownstein, sarah and michael, thank you. Senate democrats are saying the senate Gop Health Care bill is a killer, but what can they do to stop it if they want to . Well ask senator Tammy Baldwin next. Gnosed myself. Its like a war were trying to fight against these diseases. Resilience is in my dna. I wont die like my mom. Its a big challenge, but the challenge in it of itself is really what keeps me going. I could really make a difference in these peoples lives. That would be my dream. The future isnt silver suits anits right now. S, think about it. We can push buttons and make cars appear out of thin air. Find love anywhere. Hes cute. And buy things from, well, everywhere. How . Because our phones have evolved. So isnt it time our networks did too . Introducing americas largest, most reliable 4g lte combined with the most wifi hotspots. Its a new kind of network. Xfinity mobile. It kills the middle class and gives money to the wealthy. Thousands of people will die. Senate democrats have a pretty basic message when it comes to the Health Care Bill, whether you look at the house or Current Senate version. It is a danger to you. The question is, what can the democrats do to stop it . Lets discuss with democratic senator Tammy Baldwin. Its a pleasure. Pleasure to join you. Youre out there and messaging. At the end of the day, when it comes to numbers, are the democrats relegated to sitting and watching . First of all, health care is deeply personal. For me i was a child who had a very serious illness and was labeled as a kid with a preexisting condition. My grandparents who raised me couldnt find insurance at any price for a large part of my youth. I know my story is replicated by thousands upon thousands of wisconsinites and millions of americans. It is deeply personal and part of what we have been doing in exposing lat the house pass and what was revealed in the senate is engaging the voice of the American People. Thats the only thing. What can the democrats do in the minority in the house and the senate, we dont have the presidency. It is engage the American People in speaking out about this. Boy, we can tell our colleagues are hearing. On the republican side . On both sides. But certainly whats key right now, since theyve used these extraordinary procedures so they only have to pass it with 51 votes in the Senate Rather than the usual 60 votes, thats whats so critical. Weve had a number of republican senator expressing serious miss gave vings over the weekend. I applaud them. Weve got to weve not only got to take on this fight with everything we have, weve got to win. You think you can forestall a vote or do you think there will be a vote before the recess . I dont know what Mitch Mcconnells plans are going to be. Delay doesnt make this bill any better. Well hear from the cbo the difference between the house and senate. But the house bill predicts 23 million americans will lose their Health Insurance in the next decade. And then the medicaid cuts which are worse in the senate bill than they are in the house in their cumulative effect, it impacts rural health, impacts people who have loved ones in Nursing Homes and the weakening of protections for people with preexisting conditions is devastating to a huge swath of the American People. So respond to what were hearing from the other side. You have the health and Human Services secretary, tom price, who says premiums arent going to go down on the whole and no one is going to lose coverage. Kellyanne conway said this. These are not cuts to medicaid, george. This slows the rate for the future and allows governors more flexibility with medicaid dollars because theyre closest to the people in need. If you are currently in head kad, became a medicaid recipient through the obamacare expansion, you are grandfathered in. Were talking about in the future. Are you grandfathered in . Is this just reducing the rate of growth in medicaid . Its about affordability. If they change the formula, as theyre proposing to do in the senate bill, and you cant keep up, then it means insurance and health care is unaffordable to you. Our goal ought to be on a bipartisan basis to make Health Insurance more affordable to more americans. What the senate bill and the house bill does is go exactly in the opposite direction. And as some of your previous guests have noted, transfers resources from low and middle income people who are being helped pay for the premiums to the ultra rich who are getting tax breaks of enormous proportions. I understand the arguments democrats are making. I have a question, maybe tactical more than substantive. You know the main driver here, no matter what were hearing in terms of policy is the republicans promised a repeal of the aca. Everybody knows the aca has a lot of individual marketplace issues that need to be addressed. Some are because states didnt accept the expansion. There are a lot of different reasons, but you have problems. Theyre going to repeal it if theres any way that can. Thats the promise they have to make good on. I dont hear democrats approaching that reality. Saying lets see something that we can make happen. It they have the votes. Its a question of what it takes to get them. I dont hear democrats engaging on the level of trying to negotiate some type of fix. I talk about this all the time. What we need to do is