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Backdrop he is going to step in front of the American People tonight and try to make the case that he has the right path forward when it comes to afghanistan and that they should trust him. Its a very big decision for me. I took over a mess. And were going to make it a lot less messy. Reporter President Trump set to outline his strategy for americas path forward in afghanistan. A major test for the new commander in chief, one that could put more american troops in harms way. After meeting with Top Administration officials at camp david on friday, the president announcing saturday he had made a decision after months of deliberation and delays. He has made a decision, as he said. He wants to be the one to announce it to the American People. It is a south asia strategy, not just an afghanistan strategy. Reporter the president has been presented with a wide range of options. Everything from a full withdrawal to the deployment of up to 4,000 more soldiers, amid questions about the president s Leadership Capability and mounting backlash to trumps defense of White Supremacists in charlottesville last week. You had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. It will be very difficult for this president to lead if, in fact, moral Authority Remains compromised. Reporter the president s Approval Ratings taking a hit. Dipping below 40 in three comidwest states that helped trump win the presidency. With six in ten americans saying theyre embarrassed by the president s conduct. Now tonight we will see Teleprompter Trump addressing the nation. The very somber role as commander in chief. Tomorrow we could see a very different President Trump. Hes hitting the road for a campaignstyle rally in phoenix, arizona, a state where john mccain and jeff flake have been harshly critical of the president. Back to you guys. Sara, thank you very much. Cnn political analyst karoun demirjian. Great to have all of you here with us. Karuon, lets talk about this apparent tragedy, ten missing u. S. Sailors off the waters of singapore. Last night, he was asked about this. Questions were shouted at him from journalists and it seems as though he wasnt fully briefed. Though, frankly, President Trump never engaged in the political speak. I will take this under advisement. Were watching this very closely. He doesnt say things like that. Is it conceivable that he repeatedly said thats too bad. Thats too bad. Is it conceivable that his advisers wouldnt have briefed him by 8 30 at that point last night . It doesnt necessarily mean that he knew what his response was going to be. As weve seen trump in various other situations, he says i like to have all the facts. Granted he tweets before he has in the form of steve bannon. His ideas about afghanistan and staying out were largely shaped by steve bannon. He has that on him tonight as well as coming out of charlottesville and his moral standing taking a huge hit. This is big for him tonight. Thats right. And as we saw from those tweets, there was absolutely no daylight when donald trump was a candidate about what his position about afghanistan would be. He would withdraw. He was the only one Strong Enough to do that. Now push comes to shofb and it sounds like the announcement tonight, rather than being a withdrawal, will be an increase in troop levels. This is the first policy fight weve seen that is a clear loss for steve bannon, mattis and the generals were fighting over this. Generals won, bannon lost. Hes on the outside. Breitbart news this morning theyre already going after the president s afghanistan strat jirks criticizing this increase in troop levels. He will have a new prominent critic on the outside that he hasnt had at this point in the administration. Its not the first time weve had to see the president take a different tone than what he campaigned on. He promised a whole bunch of things that when he became president its a matter of National Security and keeping the world a stable place and not making things worse that he shifted tact. And that list is getting longer and longer and longer it seems. Were only seven months in. Perry, this warped strategy for afghanistan was promised more than a month ago, saying it was going to be happening in mid july. Is it too cynical to think that they rushed this together tonight to get away from charlottesville last week . Im not sure of the exact timing and why. Theyve been talking about this review for a long time. I assumed it would come out some time in august. It might be cynical to say this day was picked for that reason. I would say on the policy itself, trump might have been, if he was trying to become more popular or do what the public wants, there is some skepticism about these wars and having more troops there. I wonder if trump had the converge of his convictions from earlier if he would be in a better place, at least politically . There is some demand in the public for less fewer troops abroad versus trumps policy now is not that different from the status quo. Going from 8,000 to 12,000 troops is not a big shift either way. Hes basically kind of continuing the policies of bush and obama, of staying in afghanistan. Just by campaigning on the opposite. Josh, where are we with where bannons head is and what this war is about . Such a weird turnabout last night. One of these cronies tweets war, says our presidency over that we fought for. Then he clarify ied with you an others, no, no, no, im not bad on the president. Its other guys. He goes after h. R. Mcmaster and breitbart right away. I think bannon wanted to leave amicably and he was adamant that he was not fired, it was a mutually agreed upon departure. Although im not sure how much choice he had about leaving or staying. But the issue with bannon is that he has these set of beliefs that he thinks the country has endorsed by electing donald trump. As we just talked about, trump promised all these things and is either unable or unwilling to carry through with them as president. Bannon sees himself as someone who will nudge trump into what he believes is a proper direction, mowing down his opponents, using breitbart news. I tried to get bannon to say if trump doesnt do this, will you eventually take him on directly . He wouldnt answer the question but i think the answer is yes. If Trump Slide Toos far with these white House Democrats, bannon refers to. The problem is that the white House Democrats that he refers to are ivanka trump and jared kushner, her husband. Thats blood, flesh and relatives and seems to be sacred for the president. He does listen to them even if he doesnt agree with them. If he goes after them too hard it will not work out too well for steve bannon, it would seem. How far is he going to push . How hard is he going to push before they push back . And will we see those trains colliding in public now because bannon is on the outside . Whats especially awkward is that donald trump tweeted after steve bannon left, good for steve, going back to breitbart news, fighting fake news. Giving him the dignity of the exit that he could. Right but bre. Tbarr was writing nasty things about him within 24 hours of that tweet. Charlottesville, there was an exit planned before, but then charlottesville happens and everything is through the light of charlottesville. It was really, really bad, but a selfinflicted thing that has screwed up the way weve seen everything from the Bannon Departure to afghanistan and Everything Else that were seeing. The key question here is what does donald trump do . The worry in the breitbart community, Arnold Schwarzenegger ran as a conservative and some point moved to the middle. Breitbart mentioned that comparison. If youre steve bannon youre trying to keep donald trump from listening too much to the more liberal people in the white house. I think donald trump will stay pretty nationalist because i think donald trump himself has a lot of views that steve bannon did as well. He has been talking about trade deals and how terrible they are for years and decades. I think he will stay on this same path because steve bannon was a person who basically agreed with donald trump. Thats why he liked him so much. I think he will stay in the same pathway. Panel, thank you very much for all that reporting for us. Cnn will bring you live coverage of President Trumps address to the nation tonight at 9 00 eastern. Right after the president s address, stay tuned because were going to have a live town hall event with House Speaker paul ryan. Its hosted by our jake tapper at 9 30 pm. What does paul ryan think about all of these developments . It will be good to finally hear him on the record about it. President trump facing backlash from his response to the deadly violence in charlottesville. His moral standing suffered. Several lawmakers now questioning his abilities. Well talk with one of his democratic critics who actually suggested that the president may be sympathetic to White Supremacists, next. David. Whats going on . Oh hey thats it . Yeah. Everybody two seconds dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance. 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If you look at the facts, the evidence thats been entered into the Public Record already, there are a few things that are insxa inescapable. One thing is that he did not immediately denounce the neo nazis and the klan. The flags they were marching under are the flags that enemies were Killing Americans in civil war and world war ii. But look at the record during the campaign, when david duke, when he won louisiana, david duke endorse him. He takes a long time to say anything about that. You know, we know that richard spencer, a noted and open and avowed white supremacist coins the term altright. Then he hires the guy who says that hes offering the platform for the altright, steve bannon, who has been advising him right up until a few hours ago. What does sympathy mean . Wait a minute. So im clear on your position, you think he is like minded, that he is a white supremacist . Im not saying he is one. Im saying positions that they have articulated are positions that he does not feel an urgency to denounce and distance himself from. That piece of evidence right there is something that all of us have to ask ourselves why. Now, if he is not sympathetic to them, then the best person to clarify this is the president himself. He can talk about how we move forward as a country, one america, liberty and justice for all, everybody included. And yet thats not what were seeing. Were seeing him, you know, be morally ambiguous and i think that this is of something that is of serious concern. I named what let me just give you a little bit more fodder here. He has been all over the map on david duke, in terms of the kkk. Back in 2000, donald trump, obviously just a regular citizen, gave this interview with matt lauer where he was very strongly condemning david duke. And then over the years, and certainly during this campaign, he seemed to be much less sure about how he felt about david duke. Lets just recap this for our viewers. Listen to this. Right. Well, youve got david duke just joined, a bigot, a racist acres problem. David duke endorsed me . Okay. All right. I disavow. I dont know anything about david duke, okay . I dont know what youre talking about with White Supremacy or White Supremacists. I know who he is but i never met david duke. So, congressman in 2016, he didnt know anything about david duke but if you rewind the clock to 2000 with matt lauer he was very clear, david duke is a bigot, a racist. Hes a problem. But why do you think that that means that hes now evolved and come around to share some sort of sympathy or like mindedness with david duke . Couldnt it just be as simple as he thinks those folks who Support David Duke are part of his base and support him . Well, then what difference does it actually make, right . The fact is that if he really believes them and is a true believer or if he is just opportunistically exploiting them to support him, the net effect is people who fought the nazis, people who fought the klan, Who Are Stand Iing up for core American Values still end up getting hurt and diminished in the process. I mean, im talking about the pragmatic effect of the president s moral ambivalence. If he will not actively pull the country together around shared values we are left to speculate as to why he wont. I think one of those possibilities is what i said. Sympathy . Perhaps, yeah. I mean, let him clarify if thats the case. Think about it. He is the one who has created this question about where is trump on the klan and the nazis and White Supremacists . You look at storm fronter, daily stormer, they were all very happy at his response. They feel like he was endorsing them. If you listen to those people, they feel he is an ally and a friend. And so i think it is incumbent upon the president to make it clear, they have no quarter because he hasnt done that. The question is what will you and other democrats beyond just speculating and speaking out about this, what you can do about it. You know, congressman, jackie speier, democrat from california, she tweeted this. Potus is showing signs of erratic behavior and mental instability to place the country in grave danger. Time to invoke the 25th amendment. Do you agree . Well, let me tell you this. I know that Injury Nadler has invoked we had 160 events where we were talking to neighbors about how to really build a strong, unified country around shared values, Economic Prosperity for everyone. We did 160 events on which we knocked on doors, made calls and engaged with our neighbors and so we are being a part of this massive surge forward. Counter to trumps moral ambivalence. You saw 30,000 or so in boston, thousands in new orleans. I was in durham when they the day before when people were protesting there. And calling account to some of these confederate monuments. So, my point is that, look, you know, most americans are appalled by what happened in charlottesville. Hear not slow to respond to it. Were trying to work with them because were trying to change what happened at the ballot box where we want to restore and anybody who says we want to change the outcomes at the ballot box. Obviously we want democrats to win but even republicans who step forward and say no, this is wrong. I respect that. So far only about 24 republicans have publicly named donald trump and told him that his moral ambivalence is not what this moment calls for. Thats what were trying to do, organize and move forward. Understood. Congressman keith ellison, thank you. Organize and move forward. Address, prime time speech directly to the American People about what to do with the 16year war in afghanistan. The fate of a Signature Items like health care, the wall, tax reform. Whats going to happen with all of those without steve bannon . Next. When you really want to save big on a hotel, just go to priceline. They add thousands of new deals every day up to 60 off. Thats how kaley and i got to share this trip together at this amazing hotel. Go to priceline and get the hotel deals you wont find anywhere else. Great new voice at breitbart. Attacking members of his staff, National Security team, members of his family. Trump was just a vehicle for them to try to prop up that agenda but they will not hesitate if trump deviates at all from any of the rhetoric he said during the campaign, theyll go full tilt. There are stories already that theyll help impeach trump if he goes the other way. On the flip, mac, its just a propaganda outlet. Hes no longer in the inner circle of kind of in the ear of the president on a daily, maybe even hourly basis. Is he weakened to the point where his effectiveness wont be what it could have been . Chris, i dont think so. I think kurt has it more right than not. I think it is a pretty big deal. Steve bannon came in with great standing, with equal reporting responsibility to the Chief Of Staff, reince priebus. He was on the National Securitycouncil, which was pretty unprecedented for a political strategist to be an active formal member of that council. He got demoted on that. That obviously did not set well. I think President Trump has a very, very narrow pass here to go forward with his legislative agenda. What the real issue is, chris, the president now has to shift from campaigning to governing. Steve bannon was effective in the campaign, fighting, being a provocateur. Not

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