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CNNW New Day December 4, 2017

Win. We have lots to cover. Joe johns is live at the white house. Good morning, joe. Reporter good morning, alisyn. The president or others with access to his twitter account seemingly wading into dangerous waters over the weekend with what could be construed as an tkpheupb after pleading guilty to the fbi. And harsh words about the nation ae nations most wellknown Law Enforcement agency. President trump once again attacking the credibility of his own fbi, calling the bureau tainted and very dishonest. And declaring that after years under former director james comey, its reputation is in tatters. The president seizing on reporting that a senior fbi agent was removed from the special counsels team last summer after internal messages were discovered that could be interpreted as showing a bias for hillary clinton. The head of the Fbi Agents Association firing back saying, fbi special agents put their lives on the line to protect the american public, suggesting otherwise is simply false. Comey and former Deputy Attorney general sally yates coming to the bureaus defense with yates declaring, the only thing in tatters is the president s respect for the rule of law. The dedicated men and women of the fbi deserve better. What has been shown is no collusion. No collusion. Theres been absolutely theres been absolutely no collusion. Reporter President Trump attempting to down play the guilty plea from fired National Security adviser Michael Flynn before this damning tweet posted on saturday from his account asserting that he had to fire general flynn because he lied on the Vice President and the fbi. The tweet suggests the president knew flynn lied to the fbi when he allegedly asked comey to drop the bureaus investigation into flynn, a conversation comey testified happened the day after flynn was fired. Thats why i understood him saying is drop any investigation connected to flynns account of his conversations with the russians. Reporter the president denying comeys account. Mr. Trumps private attorney saying he drafted the problematic tweet that could help special counsel mueller in an obstruction of justice case. If he knew that then, why didnt he act on it earlier . It raises a whole series of additional questions. You will see much more coming from the special prosecutor. Reporter Dianne Feinstein saying the Senate Judiciary committee is building an obstruction of justice case against the president , citing mr. Trumps firing of comey. It is my belief that is directly because he did not agree to lift the cloud of the russia investigation. Thats obstruction of justice. Thank you very much. Joining us now is marc short, white house director for legislative affairs. Thank you for taking the opportunity this morning, sur. Thanks, chris. Thanks for having me on. Talking taxes, he brought up the Alabama Senate candidate who he seems to be endorsing despite accusations of child molestation against the man. Is that his clear purpose . Well, i think, chris, hes been clear about expressing his concerns about the accusations against roy moore. He is also making the point in one of our best opportunities for tax relief, tax relief Many Democrats said reforming our corporate code made sense. And so hes making the case that for the people of alabama, not one democrat has been able to find time to say they support it. We have never heard roy moore weigh in on the tax plan. We dont know whether he would have even been a vote for it. He should weigh in. I agree with you. The president seems to be assuming hes for it. Because he is for the tax plan, the president seems to be feeling that Everything Else doesnt matter. Is that an odd message to send to the voters of alabama . No, i dont think thats a fair characteration. As far as we know he wrote these. All right. So on taxes, every democrat we have on the show says the same thing. That they cant be part of this process. Part of the reason that youre doing it this way is because you get your simple majority. You control all the committees. So their amendments keep getting shot down. There is no effort to work with the democrats. Youre just blaming them out of convenience. Chris, you remember just a couple weeks ago your network was widely reported. We had about 10 democrats with joe manchin in which the president called in. It is a little difficult to say we didnt try to reach out to democrats. Two weeks ago you were tweeting about meetings only with democrats. Prior to that we met with Senate Finance, both republicans and democrats, on issues with where are we we are going with the tax plan. We had a lot of outreach to house members and Senate Democrats to try to encourage them to find ways to partner with this. Sadly, the environment in d. C. Is so partisan even on a plan that does what they said they wanted as far as reducing the corporate rate and providing relief they couldnt find a way to actually partner with this. We think that is unfortunate. A simple metric is do you have a list of any amendments that came from democrats that made it into either of these bills that are going into the conference . To what extent would they put forward ones intended to be political poison pills versus ones trying to improve the process. Thats a matter of perspective. The democrats will say none of our amendments made it into the bill. They didnt want to cooperate. They want to muss it through. I assume that is why youre having me on the show, is to give my perspective. Absolutely. They are putting forward amendments not intended to actually help the bill. They were trying to be poison pills, to put people on a position that they could grandstand in future election cycles. We had many conversations where they would acknowledge Corporate America 35 was outdated. We were losing jobs overseas. They said lets focus middle income families. We thought we did that with this bill. There are other meetings here at the oval office you covered with the Senate Finance Committee Meeting with the president. We thought there were many avenues open. They believe that this was going to have a similar pathway to health care and they did not want to be a participant in that process. All right. Thats your perspective. They have another one. Why job is to put it out there and test your perspective. I appreciate you taking the opportunity. They will say, and i think forget about what the democrats are saying. The objective analyses make it hard to call it middleclass tax relief. That does not seem what it is engineered to do. There is no section of the middleclass, unless you start slice it with a knife that would make a ginsu blush. I dont think thats an objective question the way you premised it. For families earning 59,000 a year, which i assume is middleclass some families. It depends how many kids. Depends how they file, where they are. I appreciate you having me. I have to frame the context of it. Those are facts. Those are not my facts. The facts that joint committee on taxation put out in the senate bill is for the average family earning 70,000 a year. 2,200. I think those are middle income families. So, yes, i believe this provides middle income tax relief. Some middleclass families in america will benefit. Some will not benefit as much. All of them will not do as well as people in the top tier. My question is very simple. If you are going to call it a middleclass tax cut, why dont those people benefit the most. Thats all im saying. You could call it a tax cut and say there is stuff for the middleclass as well. It is is not designed to benefit them more than any other class. Actually, no. We think it is designed do help them more than the other class, chris. If you look at a percentage of their taxes they will benefit more. If you look at absolute dollars, it does change the calculations because those in upper class are paying more in total dollars. If youre looking for what i would consider most concerning the middle income families, if youre at 0,000, 2,200 in tax relief, that is a percentage greater than those at the higher end. I think thats what matters to those families. Im telling you when i look at the analyses whether from the joint committee or cbo and they put the tables out, the number of middleclass families of who does well in the shortterm, who does well in the medium term, who does well in the long term, they do not line up with the top tier. The families dont do as well as the top tier. Thats all im saying. Lets talk about that cbo analysis. We find that to be one of the most misleading at all. They acknowledge every income bracket will get tax relief until we decided it would be good to repeal the individual mandate and analyses switch. Now they say middle income families get a tax increase. Why is that . Why would they say you remove a tax from an individual and, oh, now thats a tax increase. That makes no sense. Of course it does. I dont have anywhere near your expertise. But i can make a construction argument. Premiums will pop for portions that were deferen challenge to President Trump. When the young and strong dont buy insurance and now they dont have to buy it because the tax is gone, you know insurers will price plans differently for those middleclass, off older and not as healthy individuals. Were happy to have another conversation about how well obamacare is working and whether people are getting proper care and what their premiums should be. But specific to questions what you are saying is i as a middle income family have all of these options in obamacare and i think they stink so im not going to buy you. And then we are going to tax you. They confirmed that every family provided every income bracket was provided with tax relief. Right. In the shortterm, that works for most of the families. But there is a middle term and long term. When you remove the mandate, you remove subsidies for a lot of people who many need it to get health care. They dont get it. That winds up being a practical tax as well. Youre right, health care is a separate conversation. If the subsidies went to the families. But they actually go to Health Insurance companies. Im going to count that as actually going to the middle income family whether they get there or not. It is a very misleading, dishonest study. The other side will say, no, it isnt because that keeps the rates low for people. So the practical effect is the same. Buff i take your position on it on and im happy for you to offer it on new day. You are always welcome here to make the case. You can come on every week if you want, marc. I mean it. The American People can only benefit from what you have to say. Be well. Lets get some analysis. Lets bring in cnn political analyst gregory. Before we just heard about the taxes marc short, lets touch on the prisons announcement. He has officially endorsed roy moore. He said we need republican roy moore to win in alabama. This is the first time he names him by name. In two tweets. There can be no question. That tweet and the next one he makes another case why it has to be moore and not the democrat. Bingo. Roy moore is accused of various things of sexual misconduct, assault, and one with a minor. So what do you make of this . Well, i mean, weve been watching over a couple of weeks the various stages of roy moore and his defiance in the face of these accusations. You had all of the leaders in the Republican Party on capitol hill making it very clear that they believe the accusations, believe the women who talked about being teenagers and targeted inappropriately by roy moore when he was in his early 30s as a district attorney. But he was able to ride that out in his defiance. And donald trump, as president , made a political calculation that he didnt want to go down this road in alabama again where he followed Mitch Mcconnells advice. And now everybody, mcconnell over the weekend on abc and the president digging in saying roy moore is our guy. We want somebody who supports our agenda. And its a tight race down in alabama. And the voters will decide since there is not going to be a criminal proceeding here, the voters will figure out whether allegations are to be believed and whether this person is fit to be a senator. What do you make of the change . We dont know where roy moore is on the tax plan per se. People are looking at it right now. He supports the trump agenda. He has said that he hates the establishment in so many words. What do you make of the idea that clearly choosing party over these allegations. This has to be about the seat. To the extent that the president s tweet makes any sense because he is talking taxes and moore at the same time. I think there is a vulnerable moment and moore was able to survive it. Incident was so close. They pushed everybody pushed in the same direction except the president to get him out. He held firm and was at least in a position to ride this out and face the voters. And i think there was a backlash against Mitch Mcconnell and it was led by people close to the president. Here was this spector of Republican Party bosses in washington threatening not to seat him and looking for novel ways to intervene to get him away to unseat him or to change the rules of the game and have is a different kind of election. And there was a reaction to that. It looked like moore was crashing in the polls, but he was able to pull out of that and at least run. This is alabama. Its a tight race. That shows you how vulnerable he remains. Theyre within the margin of error having doug jones ahead within that. It is a dead heat. To be clear, roy moore has every right to stay in the race, every right to question the accusers. Certainly doesnt have as many as trump did in his election. This is also a political choice, and they have to justify it. Lets talk about taxes. David, the tax plan, at least. What did you hear marc short say . Well, they have muscled this through right now. It was interesting over the weekend to see the president may give a little bit to find a little bit more revenue that is being lost since this will be a whammy of a tax cut in terms of its effect on the deficit. There is still speculation on what it is going to mean for the economy. What the administration is riding here is at a time of a massive stock market rally, corporations are going to stand to benefit a great deal here. And that will, you know, create Favorable Economic Conditions overall. But once you start to dissect who is actually going to benefit over a period of time, i think it starts to break down. But republicans have made this bet. They have made an argument. It is striking how many the differences we have talked about the last couple of weeks, the bush tax cut in 2001 in terms of how many who are the top earners in the country benefit as opposed to the middleclass over time. But republicans are going to notch a victory here and face voters with it next year. Mitch mcconnell is on record saying the effects of the tax cut will be immediate. It is helpful when you are leaning into an already buoyant Financial Market situation even though we are still facing rather sluggish economic growth. Short is a very sophisticated guy. We have been working a long time to get him on the show and good to have him. Interesting to see what tact tactically they are doing. Cbo said it is not a middleclass tax cut effectively. They are not partial. Theres the tactic again. If they dont like what you say, they attack you as illegitimate. If anybody thinks health care doesnt have anything to do with taxes at a time when we will see big changes in the thealth system. We will see it with the individual mandate. It removes a central pillar in how it is all supposed to work. Thank you very much e. Great to see you. The Mueller Investigation is taking a major step with Michael Flynns guilty plea. What does that mean to the congressional investigation thats under way. A member of the House Intel Committee joins us next. Fast. So you can play on. Theraflu expressmax. New power. Work on the cloud with open technology, and open standards. The ibm cloud. The cloud for business. Yours. 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