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Complicates negotiations over the d. R. E. A. M. Ers. This should be a bipartisan bill. This should be a bill of love. He is playing this straight on congresss lap. If they dont come up with something, its their fault. Everybody around the table said we needed to fix daca. Any deal with dhaka has to include a wall. Several republicans said they were confused what they actually wanted. Its complicated, mr. President. If it was easy, we would have done it. Christopher steele was so concerned trump was being blackmailed by russia, he went personally to the fbi. It takes away this idea this service somehow a partisan motive. The American People have a right to know exactly what he told him. This is new day with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. Pretty summarized there. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to your new day. We begin with breaking news for you. Because a federal judge in california temporarily blocking the trump administrations efforts to end the program protecting dreamers from departation. This injunction comes on the very is same day President Trump met with lawmakers in this hourlong televised event that give us a glimpse at the president s negotiating skills. Will President Trump insist on a wall in order to strike a deal on d. R. E. A. M. Ers . The feud over the Infamous Trump russia dossier after senator feinstein releases a transcript of an interview with the head of the firm behind it. What does that mean to congressional investigations Going Forward . We have it all covered. Lets begin with cnns joe johns live at the white house with our top story. Joe . Chris, that surprise nationwide injunction adding another level of uncertainty to the tug of war over the d. R. E. A. M. Ers. It came after an almost stunning performance by President Trump on nationwide tv at that meeting with members of congress. This comes from a president who staked much of his campaign on tough, angry rhetoric directed toward immigrants, now sounding much more accommodating on the idea of comprehensive Immigration Reform. A federal judge blocking the decision to end the d. R. E. A. M. Ers program on march 5th. Ruling that protections must remain in place while pending legal challenges proceed and ordering the government to resume taking renewal applications. The Justice Department responding that the ruling does not change its position that the Obama Era Program is unlawful, asserting that it will continue to defend its position in further litigation. The late night court surprise coming hours after the remarkable televised meeting between President Trump and bipartisan lawmakers over a potential deal for the d. R. E. A. M. Ers. This should be a bipartisan bill. This should be a bill of love. Truly, it should be a bill of love. Reporter President Trump suggesting a compassionate solution, expressing flexibil y flexibility. I think my position will be what the people in this room come up with. Reporter and mr. Trump signaling an openness to a larger immigration deal. If we do this properly, daca, youre not so far away from c p comprehensive Immigration Reform. Ill take the heat. I dont care. Ill take all the heat you want to give me. Ill take the heat off the democrats and the republicans. Reporter a at times, the president appearing to contradict himself insisting that Border Security must be part of any agreement, but also suggesting he is open to a clean daca bill. I have no problem. I think thats basically what he is saying. Were going to do daca. We can start on phase two, which is comprehensive reporter House Majority leader Kevin Mccarthy interjecting this. Mr. President , you need to be clear, when were talking about daca, we dont want to be back here two years later. You have to have security. Reporter it was unclear if Border Security meant a wall. The white house offering little clarity. It all has to be part of a deal in order for these d. R. E. A. M. Ers to have protection . Border security does have to be part of this process. But you understand how a wall can be different than Border Security, sarah. No, actually, i dont. It could mean agents, more fencing. It doesnt necessarily mean a physical thats part of the negotiation that we expect congress to have. Reporter mr. Trump later tweeting that a wall must be part of any daca approval. Make no mistake, the president s televised meeting was first and foremost an attempt to put to rest any questions about the president s fitness for office that had been circulating now for days. One source telling cnn it was about seizing the mike, the megaphone. Today we expect to see the president at a News Conference with the Prime Minister of norway. This will be his first actual News Conference with members of the media since november. Alisyn and chris . Joe, you have given us a lot to talk about. Thank you very much. Joining us now is chief legal analyst for cnn, Jeffrey Toobin and cnn editor at large Chris Cillizza. How does this change everything, what happened yesterday with the judge . It lifts the dem khraoes a little for the d. R. E. A. M. Ers who are who are exposed to deportation starting in march. The problem is no one knows how long this ruling will last and whether it will be over turned on appeal. Even on its own terms, its just a temporary reprieve. So the short answer is congress does still have to solve the issue with the d. R. E. A. M. Ers. The d. R. E. A. M. Ers are in a better litigation position. But Something Like green cards for these 800,000 people. It has to be an act of congress. And thats really what the meeting in the white house was about yesterday. Its interesting, chris. I like the idea and the dam khraoes. The rub is, though, the anecdote is about that blade falling on the heads of those in power. Even though we have this ruling, the onus on congress remains. They have to figure out the solution. This may buy time, may give a sense of foot dragging. At the end of the day, its their word. I would say this puts even more of an onus on congress to do something. Because, look, this bill is going to come due. As jeffrey points out, this is march. This program will end if nothing changes. The president i think the president gets style points credit. Alisyn said the last hour and its exactly right. This is the person people voted for. A guy who sort of has broken the typical political conventions and ready to make deals. He hasnt governed like that in the past year. The other problem is that it didnt move the policy debate. We had a debate over Border Security versus daca of who is going to give funding for the wall. We had that going into yesterdays meeting. We had the debate coming out of yesterdays meeting. Yes, he gets style points. Point of fact, did it fundamentally change . Did we get closer to the finish line . I dont know. A lot of that happens behind the scenes. But should it . One good question, should all of this stuff to be televised in a way not just on cspan. Do you think he gets fitness points . Yes. On the fire and fury . I i love that. I dont see, because he forgets things and repeats himself as evidence that there is obviously mental deterioration. I made this point before. Ill make it impetuous. He is a bully. He aligns facts in the best of circumstances. But that doesnt make you mentally unfit for the job is. It may make you temperament alley unfit for the job. But if thats the case, he was temperament alley unfit for the job when he won. So i never bought into it candidly. Hes on this rapid downward slide for mental incapacity. If you did, i think his ability to carry out a conversation, while ill note that was very light on specifics. He did contradict himself. The fact that Kevin Mccarthy had to step in and said, okay, mr. President were not going to do a clean daca bill, displays a lack of his deep policy knowledge. It doesnt mean youre mentally deteriorated. Lets play it for people who may have missed this extraordinary. Can we just say Chris Cillizza is not unfit. Chris has watch issues. I just want to say. It is is a swatch. People people say its a very nice watch. What do the polls say . Lets watch this moment and then well talk about the watch. Show your watch, by the way. This should be a bipartisan bill. This should be a bill of love. Okay. If we do this properly, daca, youre not so far away from comprehensive Immigration Reform. And if you want to take it that further step, ill take the heat. I dont care. Well do daca and we can certainly start comprehensive Immigration Reform the following afternoon. Okay. Well take an hour off and then well start. Jeffrey, wasnt that fascinate something wasnt it also instructive to be truly a fly on the wall to watch how not only the president s temperament but also just how lawmakers deal. It was totally riveting. As president cillizza pointed out, at times it sounded like the president was taking the democratic position, even if that clip we just showed. Dianne feinstein had just said, look, lets do daca. Lets do a bill that protects these 800,000 young people. A clean bill. And a clean bill. And then lets move o. The president said, yeah, lets do that and then well do deal with the security issues. Thats when Kevin Mccarthy, republican leader of the house said, wait a minute, mr. President , we cant do that. We have to do it altogether. That is his interest in a deal over the doctrine. That gets tricky. It turns into a point of what can you believe about trump . The good explanation is hes not dog mattic. All right. But you have to have principles. He insisted that the wall was real. There was nothing she man particular or metaphorical about it. So yesterday he quit on that. He was open to go the wall meaning Different Things. Remember him attacking jeb bush when jeb bush said, hey, listen, this isnt a criminal act. It is is an act of love. He said, oh, please. Bill of love is an extension of act of love. Do you remember how the republicans assailed president bush for saying comprehensive Immigration Reform. No, no. You cant do it. It is too big, too scary. He used the exact same phrase. And rick perry saying the people who arent for protecting the people have hate in their heart. He got criticized for that. It marks our point marks the huge chasm between the rigidity that donald trump ran on particularly as it relates to immigration and the border and Everything Else his life suggested which was a massive fu fungability. Hes prochoice, pro life, pro gay marriage, anti gay marriage. Everything suggested he be this dealmaker. But the campaign he ran was hugely ideological and rigid. The question is which of those two is him. I voted for him because i dont like who is here. I want him out and i want a wall. And then he says a wall can mean Different Things to different people. A wall is a real wall tomorrow. What he says is today is not what he believes tomorrow. I just have to raise this again. A wall that would be paid for by mexico. Right. How many times did he say that in the campaign every day. And that promise is just completely disappeared. Incident was ridiculous to start with. Incident was a promise that was made. And i guess its just not operative anymore. Jeffrey toobin, Chris Cillizza, thank you very much. Coming up in the next hour, well discuss this and a lot of other news with Senators Elizabeth Warren and mark warner. Dianne feinstein ignoring her republican colleagues and releasing 312 pages of testimony by the cofounder of the Research Firm fusion gps. That was responsible for the trucker russia dossier. Manu raju poured through it all and gives us all the pertinent information. Reporter alisyn, senator feinstein released that despite the furious Chuck Grassley who warned of it. Steele was so alarmed that he felt obligated to alert the fbi in the summer of 2016. Now, this is what simpson said according to the transcript. Chris said he was very concerned about whether this represented a National Security threat and said he wanted to he said he thought we were obligated to tell someone in your government about this information. He thought from his perspective there was an issue, a security issue about whether a president ial candidate was being black mailed. Now, in addition to this, he testified that steele told him the fbi had similar intelligence from an internal Trump Campaign source to help back up the dossier. We now know that is in reference to information passed on to the fbi about the former Campaign Adviser george tpop tkpapadopouo has lied about his russian contact during the campaign. They say this shows the investigation has reached a partisan impasse. I think its really unfortunate that the majority and minority have really come to an impasse in terms of being able to make progress. I think in some ways this is the the signal of the end of bipartisan cooperation in the Senate Judiciary committee. Reporter during that interview, simpson also would not reveal who Christopher Steeles sources were. Even saying one of the russian sources who helped work on the dossier had been killed. We now know from our own sources that comment was in the string of highprofile russians that occurred after the 2016 election. All of this comes as trumps personal lawyer announced plans to sue both fusion gps and the News Organization bud feed for publishing the dossier last year over his concerns of defamation because he says the allegations against him in the dossier are wrong. Chris. Manu, interesting suit. We will follow it for sure. Interesting how it started off with simpson wanting to keep it quiet. How will a judges ruling impact negotiations on capitol hill today over the fate of d. R. E. A. M. Ers . We have a democratic senator who is a key player. Where does he think things stand . 75 million of us suffer from the gritty and frustrating symptoms of dry eye. We need theratears®. Theratears® is more than just eye drops. Its eye therapy. Dry eye symptoms are caused by a salt imbalance. Theratears® unique electrolyte formula, quickly restores the natural balance. 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So the big question is how will this ruling affect negotiations on capitol hill . Joining us now is democratic senator chris murphy of connecticut. Good to have you, sir, as always. Whats your answer to that question . Well, you know, i watched that meeting yesterday and got readouts from my friends who were there. It looked as if, seemed as if pretty much everybody around the table agreed with the president in supporting protecting these kids. They are americans and want to stay here. The disagreement is not over that but this wall the president wants. It has an impact. What he said in the decision is that the decision by the president to suspend this protection is likely to be found to be arbitrary capricious. They didnt go through any formal rule making to end the protections put in place by president obama. You know, that may be one of the things necessary to give a little push for this protection across the finish line. It seems everybody agrees on this part of the equation. The part that is most controversial that maybe should be shelved into a later day is the question of the wall. It wound up being more complex, please feel free to disagree. Watching the meeting yesterday, both sides saying they wanted to protect these people. A borrow from jeb bush calling it an act of love when immigrants bring their family into

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