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CNNW New Day With Alisyn Camerota And John Berman May 6, 2019

In just a few hours, President Trumps former fixer and lawyer becomes a federal inmate. Michael cohen will serve a threeyear sentence after admitting he made or directed payments to silence women who claimed affairs with then candidate donald trump. Hes expected to give a press conference before reporting to prison. We ha what will he have to say before heading to a few years behind bars. The opening bell on wall street, signs point to a rough start after President Trump threatened china with a new more severe round of tariffs. The president continues to criticize china ahead of what was scheduled to be the final round of negotiations. We begin in new york. What do we expect, cara if. Michael cohen always said he would take a bullet for donald trump. Today hes going to prison. Were waiting outside his apartment in midtown manhattan to see if hell say anything. Michael cohen pleaded guilty to fraud charges, Campaign Finance violations and lying to congress. Cohen is the only person in this twoyearlong investigation that has implicated the president directly in a crime. That is the hush money payments to those women. Were waiting for cohen outside his apartment. Hes expected to be picked up by some friends and they will make the 75mile drive to otisville, new york, just northwest of the city. Cohen is due there by 2 00 p. M. Today. When he arrives, he will join other inmates such as billy mcfarlin, the cofounder of the doomed Fyre Festival and billy. Hell live a regimented schedule waking up at 6 00 a. M. With lights out at 11 30. Assigned some kind of job from laundry to landscaping. Were still waiting for Michael Cohen. We think he might address the press. He gave hints he was wanting to do that. Might have some final words. It will be interesting to hear what he has to say if he has some contrition or a final message for President Trump. It would be interesting to hear from him cakara. Lets bring in abby phillip, niamalika henderson and errol louis. Great to have all of you. Errol, you said Michael Cohen to prison today does not eliminate him from continuing to be a threat to President Trump. Absolutely, absolutely. He is referenced in the Mueller Report as somebody who was clearly involved in a lot of misconduct involving the president. The Southern District of new york all but said that individual one ordered him to take some of the illegal actions for which he is now going to prison. What incentive does he have to still keep cooperating. His cooperation isnt even necessary. The fact is, if you have a crime that involves a couple of people or somebody clearly adjudicated guilty, going to prison, he said i did this at the behest of somebody who, because they are president right now cannot be criminally charged. Its still out there. Theres still more information to come out about it. Theres action that congress can take related to it. Thats the whole inquiry and impeachment question that we keep churning around. Some day the president wont be president , and then the criminality can find a different forum. His problems with Michael Cohen dont go away just because he goes to prison today. The most 2019 thing ever is Michael Cohen is going do the same prison as the situation from jersey shore. Im surprised to see hes in there. I couldnt let that slide. I think a Big Development over the weekend, abby, about the president s view of Robert Mueller and whether he should testify, i want to put up the statement that the president made, bob mueller shouldnt testify. No redoes for the dems, so says the president. Maybe as soon as may 15th Robert Mueller might testify. This is a change because on friday he said it was up to william barr to decide whether he should testify. A week ago, william barr said this about whether Robert Mueller should testify. What about bob mueller . I already said publicly i have no objection. Youve been telling us all morning. What do you think is going on here . Whats the president afraid of with the potential mueller testimony . The president has changed his mind about this. He was on friday of the view that bob barr would do what was necessary and he could leave it up to barr. After talking to his friends, watching tv, hes changed his mind and putting a marker down for his base that hes not going to give an inch to congress. I think thats what hes been doing all along, he does not want even when theres potentially nothing for him to be afraid of, hes not going to change his tune about the Mueller Report as a result of anything that mueller testifies about on capitol hill. But he wants to stop congress from doing anything at all to advance this investigation, even if there is not really any material risk to him, meaning hes not going to be facing any charges even though he might very well be facing further embarrassment, and the story of potential a sense of corruption around this administration that could be politically damaging to him. I want to leapfrog over nia for a second, because were saving something good for her. Back to you, errol, mueller doesnt need the president s permission. Thats right. He doesnt work for the Justice Department anymore. He does technically, but he could quit today. He could quit today. Executive privilege is out of the question. Its not as if he has some secrets that the president wants to keep from the rest of the public. Look, what the president fears here is what i remember vividly as a child which is watching those watergate hearings. It galvanized the country. It moved the polls from a majority saying watergate is about nothing to a majority saying watergate is very, very serious. In those unscripted moments the president knows this better than anybody people who step forward as characters in the national drama, they get the heart strings of the country, capture the imagination of the public. Their credibility is superior perhaps to that of the president and his supporters. The president doesnt want a reality show thats out of his control to go unscripted on National Television involving the characters that have been pursuing him for so long. By the way, we havent heard Robert Muellers first lines in this reality show. We still havent heard his voice yet. I know alison wants to get you on the Kamala Harris speech. I want your take on where the democrats are. David cicilline was saying he had to back off, now its just a request. Not 100 sure if it will happen or not. How hard do you think democrats will push on this and all other things for the next few days . Very, very, very, very hard. Weve seen so far what theyve been doing, talking about a contempt crayation against barr. They want to hear from these folks, press the president on any number of officials who he said he doesnt want to have before congress. It is i think to errols point, its almost a difference between a book and a movie. Maybe people dont read the book, in this case the Mueller Report, but the movie of mueller testifying before congress would be mustsee television. We havent really heard muellers voice. Most people probably dont know what he sounds like since he hasnt been in the public eye in a number of years. To hear him recount what we know happened in the Mueller Report, only Something Like 3 of the people actually read it. That would be a gamechanger, something that democrats obviously want to see in the president. Well see if hes able to do that. Mueller by all accounts wants to come before congress. We, of course, heard from barr saying he felt like that would be fine as well. Nia is in detroit. Thats where Kamala Harris event was this weekend. Lets talk about whats going on over on the democratic side of the president ial race. Kamala harris introduced this concept that we all sort of take the word electability as gospel, as though we all have agreed what thats about, we all know the definition. Her point is its quite nebulous. Listen to her try to redefine electability. There has been a lot of conversation by pundits about the electability and who can speak to the midwest. But when they say that, they usually put the midwest in a simplicity box and a narrow narrative. And too often their definition of the midwest leaves people out. Very quickly, how did that go over in the room . It went over pretty well. I talked to people after the speech. They think Kamala Harris is a phenomenal candidate. Theyre obviously looking at other candidates as well. But i did think this was an important speech she made, basically challenging the folks in that room to expand their idea of electability. And what do people mean when they talk about electability. They often mean whout saying white candidates as well as white voters and what white voters want and what kind of candidate white voters would vote for. You see that in the polls in many ways with people like biden, Bernie Sanders and even Pete Buttigieg being seen as people that can connect better with the White Working Class voters in the midwest. Kamala harris said yesterday, when we talk about electability, we leave out the people in that room, 5,000 africanamericans with the naacp. If you think about what happened in 2016, not only did you have White Working Class voters switch from voting for obama to switching to donald trump. But you also had africanamericans not voting, in michigan, for instance. There were about 11,000 decline of 11,000 decline of africanamerican voters from 2012. How much did donald trump win the state of michigan by . About 11,000 voters. She i think is challenging not only the voters in that room who have questions about whether or not the country would elect an africanamerican woman. Shes also challenging pundits to expand our definition, their definition of what they mean when they talk about electability and not rely on it as a code word for white candidates and white voters. Nia, abby, errol, thank you all for being with us this morning. Thank you. There is a new entry to the democratic field. The latest person to get in, senator Michael Bennet from colorado. He joins us next. R but one blows them all out of the water. Hydro boost from neutrogena®. With hyaluronic acid to plump skin cells so it bounces back. Neutrogena® youwhen you barely the clip a passing car. Minor accident no big deal, right . Wrong. 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Welcome to the fray. Thanks, guys, for having me today. Youre running as what you call a pragmatic idealist, not a moderate. What and why the difference . Well, i think that pragmatism is important because we actually have to get stuff done. Ive been in the senate for the last ten years, and i can tell you we have not gotten very much done since ive been there. Weve had a politics that is mostly because of the freedom caucuss attorney any there has immobilized the federal government. When i think about the kids i used to work with in the Denver Public schools when i was their superintendent, i think weve accomplished very little on their behalf, for the kids all over this country. I think if we go another ten years like this, well be the first generation of americans to leave less opportunity, not more, to the people coming after us. That would be disgraceful, particularly since we can do this. Thats the idealist part. I believe in democracy. I believe in selfgovernment. I think we can restore integrity to our government. I dont think we have to accept the pathetic nature of our partisan politics that weve had to endure for the last ten years or so, and there are others that dont believe that. I believe it. I think we can do it. We can overcome it. Its going to take a lot to do it, but i think we can. I want to ask about some of the Practical Implications of being a pragmatic idealist. I want to put up issues democratic voters tell us are the most important. They have Climate Change as number one. Number two, 75 say medicare for all. As a pragmatic idealist, you do not support the version of medicare for all which would force people to drop their private insurance, correct . Thats true. I feel even more strongly about that since in the last month ive had an operation for Prostate Cancer and my daughter had an appendectomy. We can talk about the reasons for that. Here is what i support, i support universal coverage for every american. I think we need to dramatically reduce Health Care Costs for families and this country and i think we need to make sure we deserve equality. When yoi you tell people the first thing about medicare for all, it takes insurance away from 180 million americans who have it for their employer, or the taxes we would have to pay to afford that 30 trillion program, that 70 support falls to the mid 30s. So i think we need to level with the American People, be honest with them. And i think as long as what were talking about is universal coverage, the question then becomes how do we get there . Every single democrat in this race believes that that should be our objective. Donald trump, on the other hand, its shocking for me to say this, but donald trump on the other hand ran against the Affordable Care act, ran against what he called obamacare and promised to give us a much more beautiful plan that would cover everybody, lower price, blah, blah, blah. He hasnt done anything since hes been president except take away health care for people. The uninsured rates have gone up. He tried to take it away from people with preexisting conditions. Now what hes saying to the American People is, i cant deliver you a plan until after im reelected president. Thats a pretty stark dividing line. My belief is, as long as democrats stay focused on what the American People really want, whether it comes to Climate Change or whether it comes to health care or whether it comes to the economy, theres no reason that Donald Trumps thread bear record ought to be able to stand up to that. I want to say, you mentioned your battle with Prostate Cancer, you had surgery which noted 5ds 3,000. I want to say were glad that battle is going well, nice to see you out on the campaign trail. The second thing is by the way, i only had to pay 1800 because, thank god, i have insurance. For somebody without insurance, their whole familys livelihood and the future of their life could have been completely disrupted by this. That happens to people every single day in america. I can imagine. It doesnt happen in other industrialized countries. Now you have a preexisting condition which makes you think about it in a different way. You said we need to level with the American People. Do you think the Democratic Candidates calling for medicare for all or nothing are not leveling . Do you feel that is not being pragmatic . I think it depends on who they are. I think Bernie Sanders believes its exactly the right thing to do for the country. Hes believed it since 1973. Hes probably believed it since then. You think hes wrong . I think hes wrong, but i think hes leveling with the American People from his point of view. I think that i genuinely believe that, if you sat down in a living room in my state, in a red part of the state or a blue part of the state and, after all, create enduring policy no matter what the partisanship is in washington at our homes, we need people of both parties to agree. If you sit down in my state and said to people, we want universal coverage, do you agree, theyd sayah. Do you want to lower prices for everybody, theyd say rah yeah. Do you want to maintain quality, theyd sayah. If you said to them, by the way, half the people on this side of the street are going to have to lose their employerbased coverage if they go forward, their first question would be, do you have another plan, michael . Yeah, i do. Its called medicare x, it creates a public option that allows people to choose for their families whats best for them in terms of insurance and primary care. I just t

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