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CNNW New Day With Alisyn Camerota And John Berman June 19, 2019

Hicks, the arrival there for this closed door testimony. That will be fascinating. I want to bring in andrew gillum, a cnn political commentator. David, we are awaiting for the arrival of hope hicks on capitol hill, and lauren said something very interesting. Hope hicks of course spans the entire recent political career of donald trump from before he was president until after he was president. Theres absolutely no executive privilege for anything that happened before donald trump was president. She will have to answer questions about that. If she tries to get out of answering questions after he was elected president or inaugurated, thats where the problem will be. And thats where theres a potential assertion of executive privilege even if its legally dubious. She can assert it here and then away we go into the legal fight already well under way. This is the gatekeeper for a president who knows a lot, facilitated conversations, and spoken for him on a number of occasions as well. So theres a lot of material they could cover with her. My question will be how much will it be focused on what congress is interested in at this point which is establishing whether the president obstructed justice, picking up on where the Mueller Report left off where theres additional threads for them to investigate. Are they going to get anywhere with her on that . Can i just think as a close political ally of the president s and with executive privilege hanging out there, theyre going to be stymied. They know voters dont like to read their information. They need a different Delivery System somehow so what democrats are planning to do is after they talk to hope hicks behind closed doors, though she may not be able to say much because of executive privilege, theyre going to come out and talk about it at the microphones. I think theres going to be a lot of executive privilege, referring back to her lawyers. And i think this may be a situation where democrats dont want to look too aggressive in pushing her to Say Something she doesnt feel comfortable saying. I think their bigger target will be don mcgahn. Hes the one that spent the most time with robert mueller. Democrats need to tread lightly here i think with hope hicks. Mayor, im hearing a lot of so whats the point here. Is that fair . Its important to get her on the record prior to what she knew going into the administration. That will not be covered by executive privilege. She may obviously choose to yield to her lawyers as a way of getting out of answering those questions. But the bigger thing here are democrats consistent with Nancy Pelosis strategy here is sort of go slow, make the case, lay the foundation and Building Blocks in case the democrats should choose in the congress to move down the road of an impeachment inquiry or impeachment in and of itself. So this is an important steppingstone i think of laying the foundation or Building Blocks that can be made down the road. And democrats dont want this to look like what the president is describing it as, a witch hunt. Trying to go after any Person Associated with the president and attack them. So democrats need to follow through with what theyve said theyve been doing from the getgo, and that is following the facts. And they want to present a situation where ultimately they can say every Single Person we interviewed has been stone wall wrg thats one thing. But they need to be very, i think, smart about how they handled thats interesting. It cant be a fishing expedition because she knows everything. Shes defended him, though. Weve seen even with her testimony with bob mueller she said there were times she didnt understand the president or certain circumstances, but she defended him through and through. There are consequences obviously for lying to congress. She does have to be honest. Im hoping she will obviously have some responsibility to the constitution and to the process, will level with the American People. But obviously well have to see how this process plays out. But again i think this is consistent with the planning of the Democratic Party and the democratic leadership which is to take this slow and dont get ahead of the process. She testified to congress before, a long time ago. That is where she did admit to telling what she called white lies on behalf of the president. That was interesting then. So who knows. David, lets talk about what happened last night. The president officially i guess announced his reelection campaign, though it seems hes been running for office since day one. I think hes even been talking about how long he wants to stay in office, maybe even longer than the next four years. He has a little joke. So it was interesting i think to hear him attempt to talk about the left wing angry mob as his backdrop, was an angy i guess right wing mob of people chanting. You know, chanting nonsense. There were taunts, they were chanting nonsense about the press and calling people names, and that was interesting optics. The thing im fascinated by by this political figure in donald trump is the president , is how he even as president has positioned himself as the aggrieved outl aggrieved outsider. He may have said lets keep america great, and i guess the implication is hes made it great again and we should keep the status quo. If you talk about the list of grievances and the ways his followers are victims or he is is victim in some way, it is constantly positioning himself as the outsider. On the one hand hes going to want to take the benefit and credit for an economy thats humming for so many americans. On the other hand hes going to blame the news media, the political establishment and of course democrats. So keeping people down, for getting in the way of important progress, thats what we see here. Its confounding to watch it especially in light of his poll numbers where hes remained consistently under 50 , which is so difficult for a president to win reelection. But hes obviously broken all the models. But thats what i took away was this reliance on grievance. Thats still where hes going. I think one of the reasons you continue to hear sort of a broken record of the things you heard from 2016 and playing the victim card here is pause he cant say look at what ive done, the wall ive built, the tariff wars ive won. Look at peace with north korea, peace with iran. He cant list that. Right now he could be saying as david said, look at the great economy. I can continue doing that for you for the next four years. For some reason hes choosing not to. Well, the president is very clearly terrified of what 2020 could bring for him. Its why he kicked off his campaign in florida, a state i know well. In fact at times i felt in running for governor i was running against donald trump. Its a state weve seen move closer towards the democratic side in my race, and florida is the one state that could deny this president a second term. Last night he didnt look terrified in that huge arena. People were packed. It looked like there was a festival outside, 20,000 plus people. But Kamala Harris had 20,000 plus people at her rally in california, and as did other candidates in launching on the democratic side for president. It was almost in my experience forecast by the fact it was almost as if he was in a time warp. He spent more time talking about hillary clinton, litigating the campaign of 2016 than he did focusing on what hes going to do for the American People in his base moving into 2020. And thats largely because as you pointed out, he doesnt have a good record to stand on. Even interviewing people in the audience they said we still dont have the wall. He was talking about the economy, and had he stuck on that that might have been something that was a unifying theme. But by minute five and six he was talking about other things. You say you know a lilt something about florida, and you know something a Little Something about polls, too. Joe biden leading the president by 9 points. You said something interesting. You said you think florida is trending democratic. Well, barack obama won florida twice. President trump won florida, rick scott won in florida. You know, and also as you well know the Governor Ron Desantis there, quinepiac showed you leading. First of all, i do not believe florida will be anything other than a 1 state. As it has, barack obama won the state twice by one point. Donald trump won the state by a point. The last three democratic gubernatorial nominees including myself, three points 0. 4 difference in my case. So what i believe this race in my state is going to be won or lost on the ground. The fact is that keeping hispanic kids in cages is not going to play well for huge hispanic population across the state of florida. I believe we are getting organized. Im a part of that process. Weve got a pledge to register a million and reengage in florida. And in nelsons case down to 10,000 this is race again won and lost in the margins. Thats why hes launching his hispanic outreach from florida in a couple of week. And quite frankly thats why democrats are doubling down on the state to basically build the kind of infrastructure thats designed to deliver a win regardless of who the democratic nominee is, we want to deliver our state for the democrats. Do you believe the polls right now . I definitely think the president hassen uphill battle. I would pray that no democrat gets illusioned by these polls. Weve got to do the difficult work on the ground. If we do that work, we win. I dont subscribe to any of them at this point. Thank you all. Breaking news now. A u. N. Special investigator has just released the findings of the First Independent International Inquiry into the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi inside the saudi consulate in istanbul. It draws a direct link to the saudi crown prince. Shes in london with all the breaking details, what does it reveal, clarissa . Reporter there are some very grim details in this report and the investigator is not pulling any punches. She says having gone through all the evidence, having listened to the now infamous tapes of the killing of Jamal Khashoggi inside the saudi consulate shes under no illusions this was a deliberate, premeditated esh cushion. She also says credible evidence that the highest levels of saudi authorities including the crown Prince Mohammed bin salman, were involved in this murder. The key thing is the element of premeditation. Our viewers may remember the saudis tried to float this theory this was essentially an attempted rendition that had gone wrong. Not so says the u. N. Investigator, and it reason she says that is because she has listened to the tape, and 13 minutes before Jamal Khashoggi even enters the consulate the forensic doctor who is part of the 15man saudi team is heard talking about dissecting a body. He expresses hope that it dissection would be easy, according to this report. And says that he has never cut something on the ground, and then another person enters and says, asks whether the sack f h sacrificial animal has arrived, that apparently a reference to the journalist Jamal Khashoggi. As i said shes not pulling any punches. She says targeted sanctions should be called on saudi arabia, more investigations including the u. S. Fbi shes suggesting, a criminal investigation should be open too. Disgusting new details, clarissa. And were waiting to see how the white house responds to this blistering new report. We do have more breaking news. Arrest warrants have now been issued against four suspects after a team of International Investigators announced the first criminal charges in the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight ma17 over eastern ukraine. Investigators say they have enough evidence to say that russia provided the missile launcher to shoot down the jet. Three of the suspects are russian, the fourth is ukrainian, all had military or intelligence roles. Prosecutors say they will not seek extradition. 298 people died on that flight. That was five years ago. President trump threatening nasty deportations of undocumented immigrants. 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Democrats are more extreme and more depraved than when it comes to border security. The democrat agenda of open borders is morally reprehensible. Joining us now to talk unt it is democratic president ial candidate Julian Castro who was the hud secretary under president obama and also the former mayor of san antonio, texas. Thank you very much for being here. I want you to respond to what the president said at his rally last night. Are you depraved and norally reprehensible because of your policy on immigration . Well, i hope the folks that watch this watched the rally last night and saw that it becomes so clear every time he does this is that what this president wants on immigration is not a solution but a circus. And if you think about it this president has been a complete failure on this issue. They told us about a year ago that if we would just be cruel enough as americans to separate little children from their mothers, that less families would come from Central America, and instead the opposite is true. 144,000 people came last month. So let me tell you what i would do if i had been inrogerated in january 2017. We knew for years more people from coming from Central America. What he should have done two years ago is that he should have immediately begun working with honduras, with el salvador, with guatemala so that people could find safety and opportunity there instead of having to come here. Instead of doing what would be most effective to solve the problem, hes used this like a political pinata, trying to drum up enthusiasm from his base, and in the meantime whats morally reprehensible as americans is that children have been separated from their mothers, people have been put in cages and six children have died in u. S. Custody. That had not happened in more than a decade. But six children in the last year have died in u. S. Custody. Thats how bad this president has been on immigration. But, secretary, how would working with as you say honduras and guatemala and el salvador, how can a u. S. President even a president castro solve the problems on the ground in honduras and guatemala and el salvador . Well, you think about why would a mother bring a sixmonth old infant on a dangerous journey of more than a 1,000 miles to get out of her circumstances unless shes desperate. Its so dangerous over there. So what can we do about that . Theres no question over the years weve worked and partnered with countries to make sure theres more security and opportunity. And we can do that with those countries. But . Std of doing that this week this administration actually did the opposite. Folks may have missed they announced theyre cutting theyre cutting off foreign aid to these northern triangle countries, to honduras, guatemala, el salvador. In other words, if you think the administration is serious about actually getting to the root cause of this challenge, youre wrong because theyre doing the opposite thing. If i were president i would actually go in the other direction. Weve seen ill give you an example, mexico is a good example. 20 years ago most of the folks coming to this country werent coming from Central America. They were coming from mexico. But the difference

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