Wtness testimony. And in a significant blow to the impeachment defense, the ambassador to the European UnionGordon Sondland has reversed, changed his testimony on a really important matter. He now says it was a quid pro quo with ukraine. Joining us now, david gregory, chris cillizza, and bianna golodryga. Jim acosta says a source close to the white house who speaks to trump regularly offered this. Totally bad. Kentucky and virginia are signals to gop. They are underestimating voter intensity against trump. And it could be terrible for them next year. So how do you see this . The implications of these Election Results . I think kentucky is a really good state to look at. You had an unpopular governor. Republicans did well elsewhere in the state down the ballot. Which is important to point out. But this is a big trump state. And a couple of things stuck out to me. One, in those more progressive areas, they had big turnout. Which shows you the trump factor impeachment. The fact that its going to be a real turnout model in 2020 in part. The other part of it is if you look where beshear did good in rural counties, what was he talking about . Health care. Access to health care. This is where democrats won in 2018. So theres two pieces. The question of who we are and where the countrys going. The question of impeachment. Then theres still this issue of what people are struggling with. Where are they finding pain in their life . Will the Insurance Company cover their Prescription Drugs . Access to medical care . Those are states that are still battle grounds for the parties. Its interesting i have a voting panel coming up from swing voters in swing states. And what they just remind us all is that a lot of people vote for the person, not the party. And matt bevin was the most unpopular governor in the country. Im struggling this morning to figure out what was the trump factor because that has obviously swept people into office. And what was the matt bevin factor last night . And i think you could argue that theres a factor of both, right . Matt bevin was actually above by a few Percentage Points before the president came and campaigned for him recently. Now many are saying we dont know anything. We have nothing to do with him. It does raise the question about what voters are focused on right now. The trump factor did not play a huge role for them. In fact, it may have been a setback for them. Because they want to focus on pocketbook issues. They want to focus on the economy, on health care. And there was nothing that this president could do that could change their mind from what they were seeing their Governor Campaign on. And support for the president than support for local issues. I would say that when you take virginia in combination with kentucky, thats a Bigger Picture here. Maybe about places and not people. You look at Northern Virginia where all of a sudden elected republicans dont exist anymore. Ten years ago when i moved to where i am now, it was republican central. Democrats had begun to make gains, but in places like fairfax county, loudoun county, these are prince william. These are counties that were suburban. The idea you would see what we saw last night, David Wasserman tweeted out, at the congressional and state level, there is not one republican left in fairfax county. Which was once the whole of country Club Establishment republicans. I to me, thats the big story here. I think david touched on it. Big turnout in urban areas in kentucky. Then where did democrats flip it . Suburbs of Virginia Beach and d. C. Which by the way isnt new. Thats exactly what happened in 2018. All the gains in pennsylvania were in the philly suburbs. Right . So you see a trend here that i think is telling. Its more about what the moderate Republican Party fronted by donald trump, how its playing in the suburbs . Dont you also think theres a piece of this . You look in the suburban areas. This is where established republicans say enough already with donald trump. Its easier to do that in an offyear election. Thats what this is opposed to enough with donald trump so im going to go to who . We always have to remember that. If its elizabeth warren, a lot of those Establishment Republicans are going to go, dont like trump. Like her less. Probably going to stick with trump. Thats a dynamic. Which is why in kentucky you didnt see the democratic candidate align himself that closely with the democratic nominees running for president. They were focused on specific issues. But i would go back to virginia because now you can have significant change across that state. Redistricting. Gun legislation. Health care. Minimum wage. Thats why, yes, kentucky is a big story and kentucky not only impacts the president but mitch mcconnell, right . Thats a negative slight for him as well in his own state. But you see how other states and particularly in texas at some point could follow suit. Once a very red state. Now turning more and more purple and blue. And now youre going to see the fallout of that. I remember in 2008, there was some talk. Barack obamas numbers in virginia look pretty good. And everyone said, no democrat can win statewide in virginia. Because none had won since Lyndon Johnson in 1964. Now, yes, we will talk i think about virginia in that group of 10 to 12 swing states. I dont know how much of a swing state it is. Look, its not as blue as massachusetts, but recent results suggest its going it would be hard for any republican particularly one with Donald Trumps profile to win there. Thats a massive swing in a decade. Newtown significantly every town, excuse me, outspent the nra in that election out there. Can i read something that i think plays into this discussion youre all having here on the implications in 2020 . Joe biden wrote an oped yesterday that touched on some of the issues. He talked about what is seen as a purity test in the democratic primary. Some call it the my way or the highway approach to politics, but its worse than that. Its condescending to those with a different view. Its representative of elitism that working class do not share. We know best, you know nothing. Was he speak. Ing to some of the concerns you just voiced there . Im not sure. Is he talking about a liberal purity test . Yeah. I think hes betting on the idea that theres enough enthusiasm to get rid of trump. Among democratic voters that they will be less pure in their interpretation of these candidates. And that there is still a more moderate way, that there are koor democratic voters who dont buy into warren or sanders look into health care. There could be more evolution approaches on health care, for example. I think thats what hes counting on. A kind of pragmatism instead of this bold progress i have approach. And thats the difference this time around. Because its not just what weve seen in the past where progressives typically go after raising taxes and fighting against the rich. Voters did not want their health care taken away from them. This goes back to 2018. So the question now is a debate within the Democratic Party. Do we work with the system as we know it and give that a try or do we revolutionize it . Thats going to be the issue going forward. Not just a debate on raising taxes. One other thing i want to add quickly is i do think that whole elitism attack against elizabeth warren, im very interested to see how much it hurts her. Because you know if she is the nominee, youre going to hear from donald trump socialist, harvard, academic, elitist, east coast liberal. So its interesting biden is highlighting that. Its what is the real face of the Democratic Party now . For years and years it was scranton, right . Joe biden, working class. And now it has moved much more to a academic policy based bernie sanders, elizabeth warren. 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Later this morning perhaps we are expecting more transcripts, still more of witness depositions in the impeachment inquiry. This follows the explosive revision, flatout reversal from Gordon Sondland. Joining us now is jeffrey toobin. Sondland had testified before he didnt see a quid pro quo. He now says he did. Let me read what he said here. He talks about a meeting where i said the resumption of u. S. Aid would likely not occur until ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement we had been discussing for many weeks. The investigation into the group connected to the bidens. What makes this so significant is that every witness except sondland had said i saw a quid pro quo. But sondland said i didnt really see that. But then he comes out with this supplemental statement, this sworn statement. He says now that you mention it, i did see it. Not just saw it. Hes the one actually proposing the deal. It is peculiar he didnt remember it. I dont think we should throw around terms like perjury. Ive seen that in some of the news coverage. People change their minds about testimony. Its embarrassing but they are almost never prosecuted if they come forward on their own and say i now remember. One of the arguments the defenders have made is well, we may have thought it was a quid pro quo. But the ukrainians never understood it was a quid pro quo. Here sondland is saying i was telling the ukrainians it was a quid pro quo. So every defense that the Trump Supporters have put up about this incident keeps falling apart. He also admitted that it didnt sound good when he was saying this to the ukrainians and what he was hearing. That he sort of assumed it was illegal. So the fact he revised oh, that. Yeah. Does that signal to you that he or his attorneys felt he was in trouble because he was the sole voice saying i hadnt seen it . If you recall the news coverage, this has come out so quickly. Even when his Opening Statement and the reports about his testimony came out, it was puzzle i puzzling he assumed to be disagreeing with everybody else. Its not surprising he changed his tune because he was so out of line with the other evidence. The language he is choosing with his uturn is interesting. He said, i presumed there was this quid pro quo. Hes not saying donald trump told me there was a quid pro quo. This is another area of defense youre going to hear. Many of the witnesses who talk about quid pro quo like ambassador taylor, for example, did not have direct conversations with donald trump. The argument that all this quid pro quo evidence is hearsay. Its not all hearsay. It all starts with the partial transcript which seems to lay out a quid pro quo. The argument is donald trump never told him there was a quid pro quo. That a good argument . It makes no sense. Where else was this coming from . But, you know, it is an argument you can make. If this is american policy and, you know, it comes from Rudy Giuliani who is the president s lawyer, what you know, where else did it you know, where else did it originate . Jeffrey, thank you very much. Okay. The democratic victories in kentucky and virginia flipped seats to blue. What does that mean for the 2020 election . We ask chris coons next. Its tough to quit smoking cold turkey. So chantix can help you quit slow turkey. Along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. With chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting. Chantix reduces the urge so when the day arrives, youll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. When you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. 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Military says he blew himself up after he was cornered in his compound. Okay. Now back to politics here. Big victories for the democrats in the kentucky governors race and the Virginia State legislature. So what does that tell us about 2020 . Here now is senator chris coons. Good to be here. Good to have you. Your reaction to the democratic victories in kentucky and virginia last night . I think this was a good night for democrats and it shows theres a lot of enthusiasm on the across the country for policies to tackle Prescription Drug prices, deal with gun violence in our communities and schools and deal with wages to strengthen the economy for americans. This was a close margin of victory in kentucky. But kentucky has been an elusively deep red state in recent years. It was a significant win in virginia taking back control of both chambers of their general assembly, their state legislature. The fact that matt bevin was the least popular governor in the country judged by polls, does that tell you something about 2020 . Or is that an aberration . It tells you that slavishly following President Trumps policies, having President Trump come down and campaign for you just the day before the election is not a path towards winning. Lets talk about whats happening in the impeachment world. Republicans have called for the transcripts of closed door meetings to be released. They said there wasnt enough transparency and they were really calling for the public and for them to be able to see what was going on in these interviews. Well, now they got it and transcripts have been released. Interestingly yesterday Lindsey Graham was asked if he read the transcripts. He said no and he said he didnt have any plans to. And he basically said he was writing off adam schiff, the chairman of intel. Heres what Lindsey Graham told the reporter. Ive written the whole process off. Ive written him off. I think this is a bunch of b. S.