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CNNW New Day With Alisyn Camerota And John Berman February 4, 2020

Just going to tell you what i do know. You won. When those results are announced i have a good feeling were going to be doing very, very well here in iowa. By all indications we are onto New Hampshire victorious. Okay, so everybodys feeling good, they say, at the moment. Predictably President Trump and his campaign are already mocking the debacle ahead of tonights state of the Union Address. So lets get live to jeff zeleny, live outside the headquarters in des moines with the breaking news. Whats happening, jeff . Reporter allison, good morning. There are winners spinning the results and losers spinning the results. The problem is we dont know which is which. The reality here this morning in des moines the numbers we are told by Democratic Party officials will be coming later today perhaps. But as you heard in that overnight phone call from the chairman of the iowa Democratic Party, he was saying that theyre trying to uphold the integrity of this process. Theres no question that has been vanished in all this. So what we do know is this. There was a strong turn out from the democrats across the state. But after that things broke down in the reporting of these results. We did hear a complaint throughout the afternoon that the app was not working. So the Party Officials said well just call in the results like you used to. Well, one problem. There were operators, obviously not enough to answer the calls so people were on hold for so long. So you heard the candidates there all trying to spin the results in their favor. The Joe Biden Campaign has questioned the results overall. Some of his rivals said he fared some of the worst. So we are left here with just antidotal evidence with the precincts we were at. That was only one of about 1,700 precincts or so. So were going to begin an autopsy here what happened in the Iowa Caucuses but one thing is clear, this byzantine process of holding we have no results. We have nothing yet this may or may not be a result. Its simply nut yet known. Now at least four of the candidates have hit the ground here in New Hampshire where i am. Just a few minutes ago i caught up with Amy Klobuchar when she arrived at the manchester airport. Senator klobuchar, welcome to New Hampshire. Its great to be here. Im so excited. Im wearing my gold coat from the blizzard announcement just to, you know, commemorate it. Senator, what happened in iowa . They had apparently they had a problem with the Computer System and getting the numbers on. I think theyll be able to count them by hand just like people used to and then theyll get them in. Has the state told your campaign anything about when they might expect it or what exactly happened . Coming from a state that had to count a few ballots with a few recounts they can get it done. I was at a rally of yours ive lost track of time, i think it was two nights ago in des moines and one of the lines you used that got the most applause was, we get better not screw this up. I didnt mean the numbers. I meant but is iowa screwing it up . You know what i meant by that. I meant we need to have a candidate that can lead the ticket that can bring people with her instead of shutting them out. And i made the argument that night that i make every day in New Hampshire that you want a candidate that can bring a fired up Democratic Base with her along with independents, theres a lot of them in this state. And moderate republicans so that we can win big and not just eke by a victory, and thats really important. If we want to get things done on Climate Change and prescription drugs and finally get some decency back into the white house, then were going to have to bring people with us. And my argument is that im the one to do that, my argument to our friends out here in New Hampshire and across the country is we know we can win in kentucky, we just did, in louisiana, in states like kansas, michigan where we won the governors race. So, yeah, we better not screw this up. But youre not including actually counting the ballots in this case in that category . Im sure theyre working hard. It must have been devastating to them and were getting it done and well get the numbers. I just know that we are doing well, and i think a lot of people are just like they didnt think id get through the speech in the middle of the snow, and ive been through every debate stage and shown that i have the toughness and im nimble enough to take on donald trump, and i bet im the most energetic what time is it you guys there . Its 5 04 right now. We dont have official results yet obviously. Obviously we have no results yet, but what have you heard from your precinct captains around iowa . Weve heard weve done very well, that there are a number of places where we won. We did well in some of the rural areas where i dont think people have focused on as much. We and the quadcities areas so were waiting on final results like everyone else. I think there are some numbers that show we did a lot better than people thought we were. Some of the campaigns are questioning whether this throws into doubt the legitimacy of the whole process. There are people who are upset . No. They just had a problem with a computer glitch. They can count them by hand. That is not hard to do. The witnesses at every precinct, every campaign and people there, those precinct chairs theyre going to be able to get the numbers. Theyre going to be a total number of people there as well as the delegates but thats not that strange. Your colleague joe manchin was on the floor yesterday while you were in iowa or on your way to iowa suggesting there should be a censure vote in the senate. Right now i am focused on thim peachment vote. I hope my colleagues will listen on the republican side and i really believe when you look at some of the support i got in Iowa Republicans who changed parties including andy the legislator who had literally andy mckeen who had been a republican last spring and changed to a democrat, weve got two former legislators here, republican who joined our team. And people in the country are not like the ones in the senate. It seems to me a lot of republicans in the senate with the exception of two when it came to the witnesses, basically donald trump says jump and they say how high. Theres a lot of republicans out there and they see this election as a patriotism check, as a decency check, and they want to have a president who understands the heart of america is much bigger than the heart of the guy in the white house. Senator klobuchar its about 30 degrees here which i know is warm for you. Like you know this is not even hat weather, this is not even mitten weather. The kind of hat that you wear when you go door knocking in New Hampshire like we will be doing in the next week. Ill let you catch some sleep. Thank you, senator. Of course senator Amy Klobuchar from the state of minnesota, so 30 degrees really isnt that cold for her. Jeff zeleny is back with us. Also joining us cnn correspondent ryan nobles whos been covering the Sanders Campaign in iowa. Amy klobuchar is in a very interesting position. She may be helped by the fact that there are no official results yet. Theres a sense that her campaign was doing maybe better than expected but we dont know for sure because we havent seen official numbersch so she was able to land in New Hampshire this morning when i was there and say hey weve got the wind at our backs. No question then she did something very smart. She was the first candidate to come out and she was seizing victory whether she has a victory or not. Reminded me of the florida scenario, you know, 20 years ago in 2000. Never mind what the results are, you just seize victory. But we do know antidotally from precincts around the state senator klobuchar was having a strong night. So we do know some results, we just dont know the scope of them. In many places where cnn was and others, she was having a strong evening in the suburbs around des moines. But the question here is what it means for the process overall. She was, you know, not attacking the iowa process, but that is exactly what is going on here today. I mean the reality is after spending multimillions of dollars in advertising, in campaign spending, other things to have this type of result, it is going to throw a shadow over the full process regardless here. So the Joe Biden Campaign sent a letter to the iowa Democratic Party, the leadership last evening really questioning the results overall where theres a lot of evidence that joe biden did not have a strong night here. So that is going to be something thats sorted out in the coming days here. Unclear how this actually works out, john. Right, so the Biden Campaign clearly have said and the Sanders Campaign not particularly happy either. Weaver really lash out at the iowa process. Byrne ae sanders think he did well. They want to be able to declare a victory if in fact thats what happened. Theres no question about that, john. The Sanders Campaign finds them in somewhat of a tight spot. I do believe theyre frustrate would the way the Democratic Party presented this caucus, but theyre publicly not being very critical of them because they do not want there to be any dispersions cast upon the results when they actually are revealed because they do believe based on their own evidence and what their precinct captains were telling them across the state that Bernie Sanders did very well. And, you know, you could tell that from what sanders had to say in his speech last night when he came out and he told the crowd that based on what he and his volunteers had said across the state that they were going to do very, very well in iowa. He stopped short of declaring victory, but, you know, the subtle implication was as loud as could possibly be. So theres no doubt behind the scenes theyre being crit olof iowa Democratic Party leaders. We know on that call, the second phone call that took place between the iowa Democratic Party and campaign officials, youre right Senior Advisor jeff weaver made it known how frustrated the campaign was with this playing out. On the other side of this i certainly hope theyre hoping theyre able to declare victory later on today. But they also are prepared to go on and move to New Hampshire. In fact, i talked to one senior aide as this drama was playing out last night and i said to them what happens if this result in iowa is put into question and youre in a position where you cant claim victory in a fulsome way and he looked at me and smiled and said we need to go win New Hampshire then. So the type of campaign is built for that and so theyre prepared for this next stage. Ryan, jeff, standby if you will. As we said no winner yet from the Iowa Caucuses, but one clear lose, giant loser and thats the caucuses themselves. There are serious questions this morning if this might be the last time we will ever see iowa go first in this type of way. Well discuss next. I wanted more from my copd medicine thats why ive got the power of 1, 2, 3 medicines with trelegy. The only fdaapproved oncedaily 3in1 copd treatment. Trelegy the power of 1,2,3 trelegy 1,2,3 trelegy woman with trelegy and the power of 1, 2, 3, im breathing better. 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Joining us now again jeff zeleny. Hes back with us from des moines. And also joining us cnn correspondent leyla santiago who was at the airport in manchester where the candidates are and where i was just was. Cnn reporter lara buck and here and harry henton. I pt to start quickly what iowa was trying to do different this time that may have contributed to the chaos. The iowa caucus process is very odd. You go in and you have an initial preference. If an individual caucus you meet a 15 threshold that candidate is viable. If theyre not, those candidates supporters can go to other candidates in each individual caucus and you basically run that through the gamut and you assign each of these individual caucuses a certain amount of delegates based pawn past election turn out. This year you have that initial vote, you then have the post realignment vote which is post realignment popular vote and then you have the state delegate equivalence. It seems in that process of trying to get three different counts it wasnt so easy. Something went wrong, it was new that contributed but they knew it was new and they knew it was going to happen. You would have thought they would have worked out the kinks there. I just got back from iowa, and you have a sense it is a state on tenterhooks in terms of the caucuses about whether or not they should be first anymore. And it has nothing to do with the process but the fact iowa and the Democratic Caucus is very white, 90 white. But last night when this went down you had more people saying than ever before that maybe iowa shouldnt be doing this. Lets listen last night on our air. I would get rid of all the caucuses first of all. People dont have time to go spend the time like you heard here today. Go vote, pull the curtain, close it vote and then leave. That is the democratic way. Should this be it, curtains for iowa . This is the worstcase scenario for Iowa Democrats and republicans who want to keep the caucuses first and is central part of the dominating process because it was as you said already under fire from people who said its not democratic enough, its not inclusive enough, its not diverse enough p. The voters in iowa what claim they should have to deciding who the nominee is when the party itself looks nothing like iowa. This is the last thing advocates of the caucus needed, not a scandal but chaos like this, chaos of this time and this inconclusive result. Its going to raise the volumes of some of the concerns, and look it is still a tradition of the nominating process. It is hard to erase all the history we have the with Iowa Caucuses, and there are going to be people in both parties who defend the Iowa Caucuses and theyre role in this process but its going to get a lot louder. It is contributing to a very strange morning here in New Hampshire. I want to go to leyla santiago at the airport in manchester here, and we had some quality time together, leyla. Its so interesting. These candidates are arriving and they dont really know what to say. They dont really know how to behave because they dont know where they stood in iowa. Reporter right. Quality time indeed. But youre right. We saw joe biden arrive here first. When he arrived i asked him a few things. He didnt respond when i asked him what would the impact of a delay of the results in iowa be. Didnt respond to that. When i asked him about other candidates specifically buttigieg claiming victory he didnt say anything to that and how do you feel and he said great. That was the one thing biden said to me when he arrived here. And these candidates come in and had a mood of somewhat disappointment from iowa, but i also get the feeling theyre saying move forward, now its onto New Hampshire, focus here. The problem is just a few weeks ago the latest cnn poll showed here in New Hampshire 49 of voters decided they were still very much undecided. A lot of these candidates were hoping to get a bump off that, to have iowa really help them in gaining momentum and moving forward in the early states. Their coming here, Elizabeth Warren the first thing she said when she spoke to the media was, look, i didnt know in iowa who

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