Rugged terrain, hard to get communication, hard to get access to. Theyve suspended the search overnight. I should caution, though, that these are early reports coming in. They are stressing they have to see it with their own eyes and verify it. Theyll be able to do that when the sun comes up. What this is calling into question, 54 people on board this flight, once again, is indonesias safety records when it comes to maintenance and training. Brian, it was only a matter of months ago that we saw the air asia flight go down in the java sea. Less than two months ago a military cargo plane with more than 130 people on board crashed. Indonesia says its working hard to make improvements across the board but this, once again, calling into question the reality here, brian, 54 passengers and crew, including some children, may very well have lost their lives. Brian. David, thank you for the update. The unfortunate update from there. Cnn will stay on top of the story all day long. Turning to reliable sources, we have some Great Stories ahead for you, including a closeup look at the sense orship journalists face in china. Concerns from Bernie Sanders fans about press bias. The biggest media standoff of the week. There is a fullblown cold war now between donald trump and fox news. It all stems from the way megyn kelly questioned trump at the first gop debate. We were talking about trump attacking fox and whether he actually referred to kellys menstrual cycle while criticizing her. There was a flurry of phone calls between trump and the powerful fox news boss roger ailes. On monday the two men seemed to strike a truce. Trump stopped attacking fox and fox started covering him again. Then, kelly went on vacation. Youre probably wondering why is that a big deal . It shouldnt have been a big deal. She deserved a vacation. Rumors were flying saying she had been sidelined by ailes or to apiece trump. The rumors are not true but trump was asked if he saw a connection between kellys time off and the debate fallout. Here is what he said. There probably was but i wouldnt know about it. I hope she is well and feeling fine. I hope she comes back and shes going to be fair and good, and im sure that will happen. Im sure roger will make it happen because he is a fair guy, and he wants things to run smoothly. So yes, people were very, very surprised that all of a sudden she decided to go away for ten or 11 or 12 days. But thats okay. I mean, some people make those quick decisions. Fox fired back right away with a statement saying the conspiracy theories about megyn kellys vacation rank up there with ufos, the moon landing and elvis being alive. It was called irresponsible and down right bizarre. Trump brushing off the criticism in iowa yesterday. I love roger ailes but all you have to do is ask roger ailes who won. I dont think ive made any mistakes. Im sure i will at some point, but so far you would have to say it hasnt worked out badly, right . I wonder how roger ailes will react to that. I wonder what bill oreilly will say tomorrow. A man who has known trump for decades is here to answer questions. The big question in the Media Industry is who needs trump more . Roger, thanks for being here. Thank you very much for inviting me. I am interested in hearing your assessment of this socalled truce between fox and trump. Let me start at the beginning, which is the debate. Ten days ago. Was it smart political strategy for trump to go after the moderators like megyn kelly . The voters are fed up with clear politicians in the political system and fed up with the elite media. Theyre tired of the media taking one part of what you say and not all of what you say. I frankly think there was no downside. As far as the debate itself, i frankly think trump won that exchange by first converting the question away from women to politically correctness and then basically saying i am what i am. If you dont like it, thats too bad. Are you saying fox is part of the elite media . Im saying that the voters see commentators in general as in bed with the politicians. Everybody scratching everybody elses back. Fox is a powerhouse. Eight out of ten primary voters are watching fox. In my opinion fox needs trump because fox is about ratings. Roger ailes isnt trying to elect or not elect anybody. He is about the success of his channel, the success of his network, and hes about ratings. 24 Million People is nothing to sniff at. Ailes is a genius. You mentioned roger ailes not wanting to get people elected. A lot of people think he does want to see republicans in power and thats part of what he strives to do with fox news. Why do you say thats not the case. No question he has his personal beliefs. First and foremost he is in the entertainment and news business. He wants to build his network. He recognized trump would be great television. 24 Million People is nothing to sniff at. Youre saying its a mutually beneficial relationship when its going well between them. Im not going to characterize what the relationship is like. There is a disproportionate fox to the importance of republican primary voters. Right now trump is a rock star. Does fox need trump more than trump needs fox . Is it more than a oneway relationship . I think theyre good for each other. Trump brings ratings to fox and theyre in the ratings business. Fox allows trump to reach the very voters that he needs to get nominated. So its a good thing. Over the weekend, actually this time last weekend we saw fox basically ignore trump and once ailes and trump got on the phone they seemed to make nice and fox ratcheted coverage of tr trump back up. Hes back. Donald trump joins us on the line. Good morning to you. Glad youre back with us and youre friends with us again. Weve always been friends. Great to be back with you. Lets start with the elephant in the room. The fox issue is resolved. How did that come about . I have a great relationship with roger ailes. Actually i didnt understand what went wrong because i felt it wasnt really i was not treated fairly beings and roger called me the other day, and its absolutely fine. Now, that was as of tuesday. It seems like the tensions have ratcheted back up, though. On friday we heard trump talking about megyn kellys vacation. Fox came on the record and called it bizarre that trump was speculating about her vacation plans. Do you think the truce will hold between these two titans of media and business . I have no idea. And im not privy to the conversations. President ial politics is about big, sweeping issues. This is all process. Donald trump is running against 15 pigmies and a brilliant brain surgeon. He is not running against fox news. The American People want to see him run but with iran and china. This is all process and maybe were interested in it because were junkies and we are into the political thing. Sure. But the voters, they want to see your bigpicture vision. If these tensions worsen between fox and trump, do you think its possible for him to win without fox . Well, fox is, as i said earlier, reaching a disproportionate number of the voters and theyre going to play a major role in the republican party. So maybe its not possible . Its very hard to say. There are other conservative Media Outlets that are significant, and talk radio is significant. News max is significant. Breitbart and significant. Those are dwarfed by the power of fox. Its a testament to roger ailes that hes been able to settlement that base of Republican Voters around fox. He knows who his viewers are and how to speak to them. Fox represents middle class values. Thats why it works so well in the hinterlands. Theyve built an Extraordinary Company and theyre reaching the very people that all the republican candidates have to reach. Roger, thanks for being here. Great to be here. A fascinating conversation. Really talking about the fox primary here. For more on it let me bring in jackie qualm, a veteran Political Correspondent for the new york times. She took time off harvards media school to research politics. Great to see you. Thanks for having me. Let me ask you a version of the question i asked roger stone. With the feud between trump and fox, if it continues to heat up. A cold war now. If it becomes more of a hot war, do you think trump can win without fox news and the big conservative audience it provides . Im not so sure he has to win without fox news. If hes winning fox will want to be covering him. It will be up to him whether he gives them the time. Hell have the interest in giving them the time. Its interesting to me because fox he has hit at a number of institutions, women, veterans through john mccain, he has come out all right. He is a candidate at a time when people are against institutions generally, big institutions and fox is a big institution. Thats exactly what stone was saying as well, the elite media. When you were researching this topic, was your takeaway that some of the Media Outlets that some of them are on the payroll . There was a report last week from buzzfeed that trump or his allies have been paying breatet barths website. What do you make of that possibility . There are a number of conservative media supported by investors, businessmen and conservative groups, including sha sean hannity, heritage action. Senates conservatives fund. Its on the record. Theyve given money to talk radio and supported them and, you know, then there has been this question of giving, you know, the conservative media people give voice to the positions that the conservative advocacy groups, which are generally antiestablishment as well. They hate the republican leadership. And so there is a sort of Financial Link between conservative media and the conservative advocacy groups and businessmen and investors. Your main takeaway from your research was that the title of your paper even they dont give a damn about governing. Is it the conservative media powers, the Rush Limbaughs of the world, theyre not necessarily interested in what the republican establishment is interested in. Where does trump fall in that . Hes clearly antiestablishment. Right. Thats part of the secret of his appeal. Could i interject that the title of my paper, they dont give a damn about governing is not me saying that. That was taken from a quote from a Republican Former 20year veteran lawmaker who was on the record and so i just wanted to add that. Good. Im glad you clarified that. You were trying to share what they are all saying about this media right. Situation. Right. Trump is antiestablishment. He is tapping into something. Because as much as fox is valued by conservative voters as roger stone alluded to and remains really popular, the Pugh Research center found that about half of selfidentified conservative voters get their information from fox still, i found, to my surprise somewhat, that there is a really healthy strain on the right of people who have now grown suspicious of fox news as well. And even before that fox news debate i picked up a lot of complaints from people who are for ted cruz, for instance. Yeah. That fox was freezing him out. Good point. Thats what trump in some ways is referring to or responding to. Jackie, thanks for being here this morning. Thanks for having me. 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So its big in nutrition and small in calories. Im not about to swim in the slow lane. Stay strong. Stay active with boost®. Welcome back. You know, i dont have a very good memory sometimes, and im afraid the same is true for many of my colleagues in the media. Right now there are 448 days before americans vote for the next president. Already most of us in the media are framing the election as a horse race, using polls to drive narratives like this. Number one, frontrunner donald trump is leading the gop pack. Number two, democratic challenger Bernie Sanders is surging in the polls. But lets put this horse race into perspective. Lets try to find some collective memory and look back four years ago this week. Because thats when Michele Bachmann emern emerged as a sec tier candidate. Once considered a french candidate bachmann starts as the front runner in first of the nation caucus state iowa. The winner of the 2011 iowa straw poll is Congress WomenMichele Bachmann. That cements her position as a serious player in this race. What about Michele Bachmann . She is my hero. She is going all the way. She is going to win this thing. I predict she beats romney. Surprises in the latest poll which shows herman kane is leading the republican pack. Herman cane has come from nowhere to establish himself as one of the frontrunners. Thankfully the internet has a good memory because we can find those clips and remind us all about all that commentary. You know the saying. The race to the white house isnt a sprint, its a marathon. If you follow the polls back in 2011, look back at the records, it was more of a relay race. Bachmann ended her front runner status and handed it off to rick perry. Who would rise and fall to herman cain and handed it off to newt gingrich. This issue is not new. You guys know its not. Go back eight years. The media was enthralled with another candidate who would never become president. In the republican party, the party trying to hang on to the white house for a Third Straight term, there is evidence that, while there are behind the democrats in the polls, a republican leader has emerged. Rudy giuliani is the frontrunner. Let me ask you about Rudy Giuliani. I believe he is not only running, i think hes going to win this whole thing the way things look right now. The abc Washington Post poll says a lot of people favor Rudy Giuliani. The two frontrunners, Rudy Giuliani versus Hillary Clinton. One more year to go. Speaking of Hillary Clinton, most of us have forgotten all of these predictions about her from the summer of 2007. Senator Hillary Clinton has long been the front runner in a crowded democratic field. Earlier this year some questioned her ability to go the distance. A new poll shows she is widening her lead. Senator clinton is in the middle of a pretty good stretch right now. The fundamental question. Can she be denied. If you looked at Hillary Clinton in the last debate, she was very strong. She is standistancing herself f her candidates. She is gaining momentum. I would have to say at this point hillary has it in the bag. She will crush barack obama. Barack, just sit it out. Its going to be ugly. I promise you. You heard it here first. You heard it here last do you remember that . Once you see all of that, it sure puts this summers cable news commentary into some perspective, doesnt it . Its why im glad at least the internet and our wonderful producers have good memories. Now that weve looked backwards, lets look forward. A lot of you think trump is getting so much attention but Bernie Sanders, the surging candidate on the left is being shortchanged. Lets go to jeff zeleny. He is at the iowa state fair. Lets talk about the democratic race. It wasnt just sanders at the fair yesterday. It was also Hillary Clinton. Are you hearing from im hearing from sanders supporters who feel hes not getting fair press coverage when compared