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CNNW Smerconish April 2, 2014

Good evening, im michael smerkanish. Were going to get the latest on flight 370 in just a moment. Breaking news tonight, tsunami waves 6. 5 feet hive off the coast of chile following an 8. 2 magnitude earthquake. Chiles National Emergency Office Tweeted tonight its asking for everyone to evacuate the south american nations coast. Shasta darlington has the very latest. Shasta, what are you hearing from the local media . With, thats right, michael. Were actually already seeing some evacuations under way. What weve seen so far that theyre very calm, theyve been ordered to get to Higher Ground. But theyre doing it in a very orderly fashion. Weve actually also talked to people in the capital in santiago who said they did not feel the earthquake. It was up along the northern coast off the coast of the mining town of akika where the epi center was. A lot of people in northern chile, southern peru thats where its really being felt and thats where the evacuations are being carried out with a bit more urgency. This is where the waves have already started crashing on shore. As you said the 6. 5foot tsunami. And this is where were going to see a lot of the action moving forward. Hopefully again the warnings are getting out fast enough for people to get out of harms way. Thats what well be keeping an eye on, michael. Shasta, youre in sao paolo. How common are these . Weve seen earthquakes and tsunamis before. It is just something that happens time and time again, which means theyre better prepared. They know when the warnings go out what to do. They gather whats absolutely necessary and head for Higher Ground. Thats what theyre doing. It could take even hours for any possible tsunamis to get to further coastlines. There was actually the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center said, for example, that if waves were to impact hawaii it wouldnt be until the predawn hours. So what were seeing in northern chile is just the initial reaction of this earthquake, which could continue to spread. So were going to have to wait for that, michael. Is there any anticipated time by which waves could hit landfall or is it premature to know that. Reporter well, right off the coast or the coast near the epi center we are already seeing those waves. I guess the big question is, could they get bigger . 6. 5 foot waves, not something anybody wants to see. But the concern is that we could get a bigger tsunami as the Ripple Effect is felt as it reaches further shores will the tsunamis get bigger or could we perhaps not see any at all . These are the questions were trying to get answered as quickly as possible, michael. And shasta, now its just all unfolding as we speak, but you mentioned a moment ago there is a certain level of preparedness by folks in this part of the world because these things are not all that uncommon. Any sense of panic, or is it orderly as far as you can tell at this moment . Reporter really the images weve seen its been very orderly. I think in part because this wasnt felt in the capital of chile and santee santiago thi isnt one of the bill biggies. Nonetheless theyve been ordered to evacuate. Everything weve seen so far those vehicleses are being carried out in an orderly fashion. The same goes for southern peru where theyve also ordered evacuations there. Everything weve seen so far things are being carried out in an orderly fashion, michael. Shasta darlington, thanks so much and stay safe. Now i want to go to Frank Gonzalez of the National Oceanic and atmospheric administration. He joins me via telephone. Frank, school me on some of the basics between a relationship between an earthquake and a potential tsunami. Yeah. Well, these particular kinds of zones are called subduction zones. Subduction refers to a specific plate diving under the continent. In this case its the pacific plate diving under chile and the rest of south america. So those plates stick together. Because the rocks rub against each other and so forth. And the pressure builds for years and years. And finally the rock breaks. The earths crust springs back. And the vertical motion generates the wave at the surface of the ocean. How long does it typically take before we can discern whether the tsunami could meet some of the expectations . Well, the measurements have already been i mean the tide gauges along the coast have already picked up as shasta was saying 6foot waves. I dont see a lot of other reports, but undoubtedly theres very high waves all along the south american coast there. And i was going to ask, frank, where else might this make landfall . What would some of the affected areas that would be most of concern . Well, conceivably you could have waves hit japan, all the way across the ocean. They would take about 20, 24 hours to get there. We will see landfall along the california coast for waves somewhere between 12 and 15 hours. 12 hours at the southern edge of california, and 15 or so up in washington state. Frank, is there precedent in this part of the world for this type of event, an 8. 2 . Yeah. This place manufactures earthquakes all the time. Back in 2010, there was a large earthquake that killed more than 550 people. And its because of the nature of the subduction zone. Its just the way that nature works. The pacific plates are always moving. And where theres a junction between the pacific plate and land, eventually the pressure builds up and breaks. And so its a recurring cycle. The same thing happens off of the washingtonoregon coast. Frank gonzales or noaa, thanks for joining us. Now on the phone lucy jones of the u. S. Geological survey. Lucy, reuters is saying early reports of landslides partially blocking some roads. Is that what we can expect from an 8. 2 earthquake . They misspelled my name and didnt get the right i think we lost lucy. We will come back in just a moment after the break with lucy and all the updates on this evolving story. Create a three course italian dinner with Olive Gardens new cucina mia for just 9. 99. First, choose unlimited soup or salad. Then create your own pasta with one of five homemade sauces. And finish with dessert. Three courses, 9. 99. At olive garden. And his new boss told him two things cook what you love, and save your money. Joe doesnt know it yet, but hell work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. 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In fact, there are so many aircraft in the sky that australia is sending an air Traffic Control plane just to keep them from crashing into one another. And now a nuclear sub, britains hms tireless, is joining the search. Take a look at the search area. Theres a lot of open water to cover. And theyre running out of time. The batteries in the planes data recorders, the socalled black boxes, are designed to last 30 days. The planes been missing for 25. Until they find wreckage the u. S. Navys pinger locater and submersible are of no use. Meanwhile, malaysian officials, Airline Officials are meeting with chinese family members behind closed doors today in kuala lumpur. Heres an intriguing detail. Technical experts from three countries will be there along with the Chinese Ambassador to malaysia. What will they tell the families about their missing loved ones . Well bring you news from that highleft me hig highlevel meeting as soon as we get it. Some experts say malaysia has bungled this investigation from day one. Well dig into these Unanswered Questions. What does the transcript of carater between air Traffic Controllers and pilots reveal. Now lets get started. So first off, what weve learned in this investigation. Why its taking so long and whos to blame. Joining me now to sort it out, mild goldfarb, a former faa chief of staff. Ken massback with extensive experience in intelligence gathering and aviation attorney steven marks. He represented families from air France Flight 447. That planes wreckage was found in the atlantic within days but the black boxes were not recovered for almost two years. Michael, let me begin with you. Youre the one who believes this investigation has been bungled from jump street. Tell me how. I know were beating up on the malaysians, michael. And i know we have the best assets in the world and everybodys putting a good face on this and trying to do the best they can. So theres no question of that. Whether it was by design or default, the malaysians were either caught off guard or just didnt know how to carry out this investigation. Lets go back and understand why were in the situation were in all we really know the plane took off from kuala lumpur, it went missing between two air Traffic Control facilities, ho chi minh and the Malaysian Air center. It supposedly made a left turn and went west. We know that turn, we dont know fit was criminal, whether it was willful. Whether the pilots were responding to an emergency. We have a malaysian radar which is the primary radar that just paints a target, gives you know good information. Seeing that plane in the straights of malacca. Then the inmarsat satellites which are getting this handshake ping. Thats an incredibly small amount of information to base this investigation on. So we have that and basically using oldfashioned advanced algebra and geometry, the experts have been able to look and plot what they believe are these search zones. But quite frankly, at this stage of the investigation we would consider success finding just a piece of that plane. To find those socalled black boxes is highly unlikely. And most people believe could take many years. Michael, the reason the difference between this search and air france comes down to a couple of things. Malaysia air made a decision not to buy an application, a, that would have upgraded their avionics. So when acars, that reporting system went out, whether by design or whether someone took it out and the satellites just got a handshake, all the information that air france had about attitude, heading, speed, altitude, all those things that are critical to kind of zone in on the crash site, they were out of this. We did not have that capability. So i think the decision was 10 a flight. 100,000 an airplane. The view is that the boeing aircraft is a very safe aircraft and they just didnt want to do it from a cost standpoint. Now were paying a horrific price. We have no stability in the investigation. We dont know where it is. And now were moving the search zone. So this is kind of a case study in looking back on this and how not to do it. Its going to change aviation forever in some very important areas going forward. Steven marks, you heard what Michael Goldfarb had to say. You were involved in the air france litigation. Does what hes just articulated make sense to you . Absolutely. In air france we had the acars. We knew in real time what was transpiring. The search site was pretty narrow in as much as we knew the general area. It wasnt shifting by thousands of miles as is the constant daytoday shifts that were seeing right now. Ill be a little less diplomatic. I think there has been terrible mistakes made early on in the investigation. It was obvious to me early on that the malaysian government didnt have the capability of doing it. A lot of foreign governments dont. They dont have the expertise which is a good thing because there arent that many crashes. So they never see this before. In this particular case, i understand nationalism. But they should have called in the ntsb, which foreign governments routinely do in these accident investigations. Theres no pride in not knowing. The problem here is you have boeing and the malaysian government, the only two parties who are the likely responsible parties who are investigating themselves. Theyre running this investigation. It seems like theyve jumped to conclusions prematurely. Like when they say that the transponder was turned off intentionally, no one knows that. Theres no factual basis for that statement. We know it stopped working. And when you start piecing these little bits together, its clear that the assumptions are leading up to a conclusion instead of looking at all of the facts with an open mind and keeping all the possibilities open. And i think its a dangerous thing that theyve done. And its unfair to the families. Steven, your belief is that boeing is playing a Critical Role in this investigation. Ive not seen anything from boeing out in front on this case thus far. Whats the basis for you saying that along with the malaysians theyre playing this pivotal role . Well, i have been involved in most every accident investigation and representing families for the last 30 years. I know in every one of them under annex 13 of iko, the International Civil aeronautics organization, foreign governments are allowed to invite participants. Boeing and airbus, the two leading manufacturers, are routinely instantly invited. They have the Technical Capability of analyzing the plane, telling the investigators how it works, giving them drawings, giving them flight simulators, doing flight tests. And its necessary. Im not saying its wrong. Its part of the process. It all happens. In this particular case if you recall in one of the briefings where the woman was escorted, that horrible scene with all the reporters. The official press conference i noticed on the wall a boeing sign. It looked to me like they were Holding Press Conferences at boeing facility. I know from Prior Experience theres no doubt, silkair, boeing had an intimate role in the indonesian government. They floated these intentional misconduct theories very early. We see the same thing happening here. It may turn out to be the case. But its wrong to start off with conclusions without factual basis. And that i think is whats occurring here. Keith massback, youve been making many appearances here on cnn because of your expertise. Im curious with your new notoriety when youre out and about, what do people stop you and most want to know about this case . Thats part a. And what misconceptions do you think exist in the minds of the public . Well, i think it comes back to the idea of hey, ive got google earth. Cane see things in my yard. Why cant we find this plane . It gets down to some basic understanding of how satellites operate. Theyre not on all the time. Theyre not searching the globe 24 7, 365. The decision to employ a satellite with finite inageing time over the earth is a strategic decision. Where youve got assets youve got to apply them against your most pressing problems. And what theyre good at. Right now when weve got ships with helicopters flying over the search area, weve got this very capable p 8 plus its p 3 predecessor from other nations. Those are the things of choice right now id tell you, michael, the interesting thing is the addition of this british trafalgar Class Nuclear submarine. 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An 8. 2 magnitude earthquake and tsunami waves off the coast of chile. A tsunami warning is in effect for chile, peru and ecuador. Well bring you updates throughout the hour. Now back to the latest on flight 370. The left turn that you see here on this map is generating controversy, embarrassment and a lot of Unanswered Questions about flight 370. A malaysian government source tells cnn they consider the airlines left off course turn a quote criminal act either by one of the pilots or by someone else on boar

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