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CNNW The Lead With Jake Tapper December 31, 2014

Descending upon rescue workers will search teams even be able to get to the wreckage any time soon . And our National Lead most persons think it will give their kids a cough and keep them in bed for a few day, but this flu has killed 15 children already this season. The cdc says this outbreak is now an epidemic and flu shots are not always enough. Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the lead. Im jake tapper and we begin today with a sonar echo from the ocean floor, something search teams hope is airasia flight 8501 and a sad homecoming of course for some of the passengers on the doomed jet. Roughly 100 military personnel stood by earlier today as two bodies of victims recovered from the java sea arrived in surabaya the city the plane left from early sunday morning and the number of caskets escorted by rescue workers and soldiers hammered home the devastating reality that the 162 souls who boarded 8501 including 18 children are almost certainly all gone. So far indonesian Officials Say rescue teams have recovered a total of seven bodies including a woman wearing a flight attend attendant attendants uniform. All of them will ultimately wind up at hospitals or morgues for the grim but necessary process of examining and identifying the bodies to give families closure, of course but also to look for any evidence that might peel away the layers of mystery about how this jet went down. Clues that might give the families and friends of the passengers and the world some answers as the search for more victims and wreckage is prevented by more awful weather. The array of ships, plane, helicopters and divers looking for flight 8501 had to abort yesterdays search two hours early as heavy rain wind and towering waves shrouded the scene in a misty, dark fog. Efforts remained focused on the strait where crews first spotted the debris. They think the planes main fuselage may be there as well. Suzanne malveaux has the latest on the hunt for this wreck an and even though they have some good clues they still have a ton of work ahead of them. They really do. Its a sad story when you think of all of those children on that flight. Tony fernandez being very careful to tell us what they know and what they dont know. He has said they do have a visual of what could be the wreckage of the aircraft the main part of the fuselage in the java sea, but he cannot confirm that radar has picked this up which would be significant. So it leaves many of these families of those aboard 8501 in agonizing limbo. The bodies of two more passengers from airasia 8501 arrived by ambulance, rushed to a local indonesian hospital to be identified by griefstricken loved ones. Its the first stop before being brought to the city of surabaya where the flight originated and where the caskets of other recovered passengers are received by the indonesian military. So far, very few of the 162 people onboard have been found. Searchers discovered an emergency door and a blue suitcase. The weather, unfortunately, is not looking good for the next two or three days and that is slowing us down but they did inform me that the ships are looking to operate 24 hours. Now there are conflicting reports from indonesian officials about whether a sonar image has located wreckage believed to be from the illfated flight submerged at the bottom of the java sea. One theory developing. The pilot his made an attempt to land on the water similar to the aircraft that was landed on the hudson successfully. From the last time the radar picked up the aircraft until the location where they found the debris is over 100 miles and that would be consistent with a slow descent down into that region. The specter of the miracle of the hudson where the plane glided on water and passengers walked away from the crash had given hope to some families perhaps another miracle would be revealed here but at the Crisis Center as time passes praying has given way to despair. This family told cnns gary tuchman they lost seven loved ones on the doomed flight. Translator when we heard the information firstly, of course we hoped our family members were safe and thought of nothing until yesterday morning and afternoon we still hoped we would get a miracle that our families are still alive. Because my mother my sister we were very close. It is just heartbreaking for those families and what is complicating this its monsoon season and the weather is treacherous and it is slowing down the search for the passengers and the debris as well. They have to be cautious about search planes flying in high wind the divers swimming in those strong currents and pieces of the plane lurching through the sea and thankfully there is still time to get those flight data recorders and the socalled black boxes which could provide critical information as to why this plane went down jake. The weather being a possibility at least a contributing factor. Suzanne malveaux lets go live to surabaya indonesia where Andrew Stephens is standing by. Another very sad day for these families. The search is set to resume just under two hours from now. How is the weather . Will they be able to start searching again today . As we mentioned earlier, the search yesterday was aborted two hours prematurely. Reporter the conditions we are being told jake is those conditions at first light will be very similar to the conditions that led to the aborting of the search today. It gives you an idea of the sort of be on sackels theyre facing here and winds up to 50 miles an hour and 20foot high seas and theyre big swells and the wind speeds will restrict flights as well as driving rain. A lot of heavy rain bands going through that area and its expected to go through the next few days which will be the problem and we are told divers havent gone into the sea yet because it is too dangerous. You tie those together and it is going to be very very difficult to have effective searching going on for the next 24 hours, if not longer and there were suggestions that they have identified the fuselage the main cabin of 8501 but weve been speaking to the heads, the local head here of indonesia search and rescue and he can only say that it may be that we found it we dont know and we cant confirm it at the moment and given the weather will be the way it is and remember this is the monsoon. The seas which are shallow do get whipped up and you get a lot of sediment and mushing in the water and visibility under water will be difficult, as well. Andrew the new year came to indonesia when we spoke four hours ago. Its obviously supposed to be a happy occasion and many of these passengers were flying to singapore, one presumes to celebrate the new year but i would assume that things are pretty somber in surabaya right now. Reporter absolutely jake. There is a strong connection with singapore here. There is a strong chinese fraternity here in surabaya. There were having said that there were plenty of fireworks going off, but the authorities here they canceled all public celebrations of new years and in the eastern javan province of surabaya is the capital and there has been a candlelight vigil in the park here in surabaya which attracted hundreds and hundreds of people. This is a city in mourning. Hundreds turning out. Children, also families of the relatives turning out. It was led by them there who prayed for strength in these very very difficult times for so many people and the really sad thing here jake is because of the weather conditions, this grieving grieving this despair continues because the likelihood of bodies more bodies being retrieved gets pushed back because of the weather conditions. So this could be days before these relatives who have been through so much already, hope and despair, now theyve got thissing a niegz weight for the bodies to be returned and they then have to be identified and that is quite a long process, too, because theyre being so cautious about getting it right and the identification and for photos and distinguishing marks and also for the samples which could help them with dna matches so it is going to be quite a long process to identify all of those victims and of course there is the burial to go through, as well and absolutely harrowing days ahead for so many families in this grieving city. Just awful. Andrew stephens live in surabaya indonesia. The debris uncovered so far has been floating on the waves, but what investigators have recovered may only be setting the table for the critical discoveries that officials need next. Our tom foreman explains. Tom . There are really three layers to the physical search right now. The one weve been talking about the most right now is on the surface of the water. Wye know where the plane took off and we know where it disappeared and we know where it found debris in the search area and the water is very rough, at times and the surface matters because the surface where you get your first clues most often and clues floating on top of the water may or may not tell you about the cause of the accident when you move to the second layer which is the water column beneath them and you start reverse engineering their position against the competing currents below, you can get an estimate on where they came from and that can lead you to the third layer down here which is the heavy bits on the bottom because those are the ones you really have to get. What are we talking about . Were talking about big parts of the plane. Parts of the wings and parts of the tail and parts of the landing gear and the electronics, the flight data recorder and the voice recorder and the engines which are each about 9,000 pounds and all of them are critical because if you collect enough of them as they did with twa 800 which is a hundred feet of water off the coast of long island you can reassemble the plane, in effect and when you do that you can look at all these pieces and figure out what went wrong. Was there a fire . Was there an explosion . Did it tear apart . Did it hit the water intact and sink . All of those could be critical clues to understanding what happened. All right, tom foreman. Thank you so much. Finding the main cabin could answer so many of the questions about what went wrong which needs to be known so as to prevent future disasters like this. Weather has hampered crews trying to find the plane. Divers dread what they will find inside when they finally get there. Thats next. 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Families of the airasia flight victims are struggling of course to come to grips with their loved ones being gone but as indonesian authorities search the sea for more wreckage and more victims and more clues officials are now bringing bodies to a midway point. There, they can start the grim process of trying to identify them. Lets go to cnns Paula Hancocks who is in borneo. Paula . Reporter jake this is the firststop hospitals for the victims on the west coast of borneo. We have just received two more bodies here. Sirens signaling the two ambulances arriving that were red cross and hospital workers waiting with gurneys. The two body bags were then rushed into a special wing of this hospital to be treated and also identified. The hospital director tells us that what theyre doing is trying to give the initial identification to figure out the gender the height and any identifying marks and facial recognition who can tell you who the passengers and crew are. We know the families have already given uptodate photos of their loved ones exactly for this purpose. The weather is in part of that. Weve had high waves and also high winds which obviously makes things very difficult for the divers and little visibility and also for the ships and the aerial support in the area. The concern, of course is the next couple of days could be just as bad. Jake . Paula hancocks in borneo thank you so much. Lets bring in captain tim taylor submersible specialist and the captain of tiburon. Do you think its likely that this object that has been picked up by the sonar, even though the airline wont yet confirm it do you think its likely the main cabin of the jet . I dont have the knowledge to say its likely but if it is you know it its its amazing, to find the whole cabin intact after what it had to go through. David, you told me earlier that you think we actually know less today than we did yesterday. Explain what you mean. Well yesterday if you recall they said the aircraft had gone into the water that the debris was located six miles from where they last had a radar fix on the radar which would indicate it was a deepsteeper deep stall. It went from six miles to 120 miles that was a mistake. They also told us other information that we knew this we knew that. We knew that the sonar had found this aircraft. Now we dont know if it found it or not. Its backed off on it. So in their attempts yesterday i was talking about how they did such a great job of managing the misinformation and now ill have to back off on that because it appears that theres information getting out some back and forth just like what we saw with mh370 which is torturous to the families. Jeff based on the clues that we know so far, based on the the bodies and the debris that weve seen based on the information we have what are investigators thinking right now in terms of what may have caused this crash or is it still too early to even speculate . Its really too early to speculate. Its not very fruitful to speculate. Really what theyre doing as you reported earlier, theyre really bent on getting these black boxes out of the water. The destruction of the fuselage itself that will unlock the secrets pretty quickly. I suspect this case will not take too long to resolve, absolutely not mh370 and then the answers will emerge pretty quickly. We could, as sort of a mental exercise talk about the possibilities related to weather and perhaps pilot errors et cetera, but it will not really be useful because well have the true answer soon enough i hope. David, weather has obviously slowed the search. What can these teams do if anything to mitigate the risk of this evidence the chunks of the plane, the debris et cetera drifting away from where they have found pieces of wreckage or is that just impossible . Well its not impossible jake. What im hoping theyre doing and they havent been talking about this but i suspect they are is dropping sonar buoys which will drift with the debris and theyll be easier to find because they actually emit a signal which can be narrowed in on later. So they can be do but more importantly what theyre doing right now is establishing and bringing in the subject Matter Experts and the stakeholders of the aircraft the manufacturer the airline itself and the countries that are involved they all have to be part of this investigation and they may not be parties to it meaning theyre not in the planning meetings but they definitely have to be there. I wouldnt dream of doing an investigation on the aircraft unless all major manufacturers including avionics were there to represent themselves and provide information. It seems the only time the weather has been manageable is during the night. Ive gone on night dives and you really only see what the late youre carrying picks up in front of you, but does it make these searches impossible . Obviously, theyre continuing to do them at night. Yeah if i was running this operation i would schedule it for the times that are the best and thats the night right now. So i would take advantage of that opportunity, and frankly, sonar and the sonar work you have to do that can be done at any time. Diving a little bit of complication with lights and you can bring in rovs with massive lighting and divers together and solve a lot of that if theyre going inside of a fuselage it gets more dicey, but the divers are trained for that and recovering bodies is really the necessary thing. Recovering the wreck or salvaging the wreck can wait for months when the season gets better if its deep enough but bodies need to be right now as soon as we can in recovery needs to be priority of that. Captain tim taylor jeff weiss, thank you so much. In the National Lead the flu outbreak spreading so quickly this season experts say its reached an emdemmic level. Why your flu shot may not be enough to keep you from getting sick and why one particular flu strain has become so dangerous. I take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn. Because it gives me. Zero heartburn prilosec otc. The number 1 doctorrecommended frequent heartburn medicine for 9 straight years. One pill each morning. 24 hours. Zero heartburn. Welcome back to the lead. Im jake tapper. The National Lead. A deadly outbreak spreading quickly across the u. S. Has been blamed for the deaths of 15 children its the flu and the cdc announced its officially an epidemic and while they have not been quarantined this flu strain is a serious concern for Health Professionals because its not only dangerous, its unpredictable. Its mutating. The centers for Disease Control reports widespread flu activity in 36 states and doctors say even if you got a flu shot you could still get this virus. I am joined by dr. Jeffrey kahn, the director of peaed yam rick Infectious Diseases at Childrens Medical Center in dallas. Doctor, thanks for joining us. Why hasnt the flu shot been enough to stop people from getting the virus this season . Well we know that flu can mutate and in fact it mutates every year and thats why we have new vaccines that come out every year and we have to get revaccinated for influenza. This has mutated in a way that the vaccine no longer covers this strain. Its one of the three strain that typically circulates and this is the strain of the three that typically circulate that causes the most severe disease and thats why its drawing a lot of attention. Just to be clear, doctors still recommend that people get the flu shot and its not too late to do so because of the other two strains. People should still get their flu shots. Absolutely for the reasons that you mentioned and also there is some data that suggests that even if its not a Perfect Match and the vaccine is not a P

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