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CNNW The Lead With Jake Tapper December 9, 2015

Emanuel his job . And in politics, jeb bush suggesting donald trump is a Hillary Clinton plant after trump once again vaguely threatens to bolt the Republican Party and run as an independent. Today well ask senator rand paul about trumps plan to ban all muslims from entering the u. S. And how its any different from his own plan which essentially would do the same thing. This is cnn breaking news. Good afternoon everyone. We begin the lead with some breaking news in the investigation into the california terrorist attack at the Holiday Office party last week. U. S. Officials telling cnn that the neighbor who gave the terrorist syed farook two ar15 rifles used in last weeks attack is in fact the same person, the accomplice, who helped Rizwan Farook in another attack plot, plot, back in 2012. Lets get right to cnn justice correspondent pamela brown and justice reporter evan perez who are breaking this story. Pamela, lets start with you. What are your sources telling you . We reported last night for the first time about this 2012 plot, jake. And now we can say that the other person involved with that plot was syed farook was in fact Enrique Marquez, a longtime friend and former neighbor of farook. And they were plotting this back in 2011, 2012, apparently according to an interview he did with the fbi. They had scoped out a target. And they were going to launch an attack, but because of some other unrelated terror arrests in that area, they got spooked and aborted their plans. Also Enrique Marquez who has waived his miranda rights, cooperating with the fbi saying he was radicalized with farook back in 2011, which gives some sense of a timeline as far as radicalization for the San Bernardino attack. We should point out he did give those rifles to farook. We dont know whether he was aware of the plot even though those guns were used. But he did buy those rifles around the time of this alleged plot that officials are still trying to corroborate. This is significant for so many reasons, evan. But one of them is it certainly undermines the idea that this radicalization took place recently. This goes back all the way to 2011. Exactly. It does really paint a picture of what farook was up to by the time he goes and tries to find a wife overseas. Was he shopping essentially for a ji dadhadi bride . Keep in mind also what the fbi is getting all of this information, marquez is just talking to the fbi skb giving them everything they want, but they have yesterday toot the work to corroborate any of this. They dont know whether he is simply trying to draw attention away from any other information he may have on the San Bernardino plot that took place last week. What he may be doing is simply giving them a lot of information. Keep in mind if this 2012 plot does exist, he cant be charged because it didnt actually take place. And how do you verify . Right. So investigators first learn about Enrique Marquez because hes the one who first supplied the weapons, the semiautomatic rifles to the shooters. And apparently after the attack he checked himself into the hospital of some sort . Thats right. After the attack he checked himself into a Mental Health facility. We dont really know the circumstances surrounding that, but following that point we know that he was talking to the fbi starting a few days ago and has been continuously talking to the fbi. He has not been charged, i want to point out, jake. So even though nrvegts are trying to figure out did he know anything about the San Bernardino attack, was he involved in some way. And he has told them that he bought these two rifles that were used in the attack, jake. He bought them for farook. Now, part of the question there is why. Farook was clean enough to be able to pass a background check. He had three other guns. The question investigators are now pursuing is why was that . Is farook trying to cover his tracks making sure he didnt draw any attention . Again, plotting this attack as far back as then. Pamela, let me ask you about the mother. Syed farooks mother who lived in the house with the terrorist couple while they were stockpiling ammunition to a degree, while they were building bombs, a bomb lab in the garage. What are investigators saying about her . And we also know that part of the loan he got just a couple weeks before the attack, this 28,500, around half were told was handed to his mother. We dont know if she was aware of why she was getting that money. Because we know he moved in with his wife to her home. So perhaps it was to pay for rent or perhaps something more sinister, we dont know that. But investigators want to figure out what did she know co great reporting, pamela brown, evan perez. Let me turn to senator rish thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate it. So we just learned moments ago that this neighbor, Enrique Marquez, who was the neighbor and longtime friend of one of the terrorists in San Bernardino and a shirt tail relative were told by marriage to him. Oh, is that right . By some long stretch. But he is a shirt tail relative and a friend and former roommate and neighbor. And we had heard yesterday cnn breaking the story that farook had planned in 2012 but didnt carry out a terrorist attack. Now were learning that it was with Enrique Marquez and hes the one telling intelligence officials. What more can you tell us . Not really much more than that. Other than that is breaking news, its brand new that he has admitted that in 2012 they had something in mind and they didnt do it because there had been some immediate arrests by the counterterrorism people right there in the immediate area. And as a result of that they got cold feet. Spooked them to a degree. Is marquez in we had been told he checked himself into a hospital, mental or Psychological Treatment Center of some sort after the attacks. Is he in custody right now . You know, im told that he is not in custody. But i would suspect thats not going to last very long. Unless hes got some kind of a deal cut. Which is entirely possible if hes got a lawyer and gotten a deal cut thats possible. But just the admissions that hes made, plus the fact of the weapons that he was responsible for originally obtaining these weapons sounds like right around the time that they were planning the first attack. Thats sufficient for conviction just with his admissions and the actual steps towards the attack, that would be purchasing the weapon. We are told pamela and evan reported he waived his miranda rights. So he at least had been read them whether or not he was in custody. Senator, do we have any kind of plot this was in 2012 . Not much more than that. I think people are still trying to sort out whether or not it was detailed or whether it was a generality. And obviously you have a long spectrum there where they were on the spectrum of actually doing that. But it was far enough that apparently hes admitted this was a specific plot that they were going to carry it out and they abandoned the plans because of arrests that took place in the area. Obviously as in the Intelligence Community and the National Security community remind us all the time they have to be right 100 . Thats right. And the bad guys only have right once. Right once. And obviously the only people responsible for this are the killers and those who gave them money or inspired them, but can you look at this situation and point to areas where the Intelligence Community could have done something better, could have caught this plot before it happened the one that just took place last week . You know, jake, thats actually one of the responsibilities we have on the Intelligence Committee is as oversight to do this sort of thing. Look at it from the monday morning quarterback position. Obviously they do that themselves long before it comes to us. Having said that and having gone through this in detail, there is very little that they could have done differently in this case. A couple of the choke points that are being looked at is first of all something that struck me from the very beginning on this is the fact that both of these people by the way there were a few of us who thought the wife was much more involved as it was initially thought in the beginning. And turns out that was correct. She came in on this visa, on the fiancee visa. Based on the information we have right now, she was probably radicalized at the time that she passed the tests in order to come in on that fiancee visa. So thats a point that obviously were going to look at. Having said that its hard to really blame people for that in that she comes from pakistan, an area where you cant just go to interview neighbors or go on the internet or Something Like that. Now, it turns out apparently she attended the red mosque in islamabad. The infamous mosque which might raise a red flag. Right. So thats something thats being looked at. The broader concern and the deeper concern at this point is the fact that for those of us that do this all the time, its really difficult to believe that they werent getting conversation from someone whos much more experienced in this sort of thing than they were. And if thats the case, how were they doing it . Over the last six to nine months whats happened is the people who are doing this have turned more and more to encryption apps and what they call the dark web, where they can actually do this sort of thing and nobody can at least at this point in time nobody can pierce those methods of communication. Whether that lasts or not well see. Very chilling and obviously it kind of undermines the idea this was isis inspired. If they were radicalized in 2011 and 2012, isis didnt have nearly the outreach as it did in the beginning. Doesnt make a lot of difference to the victims, what makes a lot of difference is you try to monday morning quarterback this thing. And fend off further attacks. Senator risch, thank you. Really appreciate it. Streets shut down as protests erupt in chicago. Lets get right to rosa flores whos there. Rosa. Reporter hundreds of people march through the streets of chicago asking for Police Accountability and transparency and for rahm emanuel to resign. But could this be the end of his political career, next. train horn vo wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. Norfolk southern. One line, infinite possibilities. When i went on to ancestry, i just put in the name yes, we are twins. Of my parents and my grandparents. 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You can see that these protesters have been marching for hours now. And they are marching through the streets of chicago. And if we pan the camera here a little bit, i want to show you because at the back of this line you can see that there are Police Officers behind me, but theres also two protesters that historically have protested in the city of chicago. This is magda and her husband. She was telling me that until about a year ago you would actually march, but unfortunately your leg was amputated. But you felt compelled to still come out on the streets of chicago historically youre an activist in this city. Why are you here today . To bring about the issue of justice in the city, in the city streets to talk about what is unjust in the city, and to let other people know they must unite with us no matter what color whatever you are. Injustice to one is injustice to all. And were here to take the mask off mayor rahm emanuel. We want him to resign. What has occurred is not the usual. We cannot allow this to continue to happen in the city of chicago. Reporter are you talking about the Laquan Mcdonald, the Ronald Johnson video and most recently the Phillip Coleman video and what these videos capture . It began with Laquan Mcdonald. And we realize that theres more in the history of chicago. The birch tortures, metcalf days, this has been going on for years and years in chicago. Reporter so historically. Historically chicago does not have a good name with the treatment of the people, treatment of citizens. And im really proud of the young people that are here today because theyre standing up to a legacy, a better legacy for the future. Less violence, more justice on the streets of chicago. Reporter thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Again, jake, we should mention that in the past eight days the mayor has asked for the suspect of police to resign, the head of independent Police Review authority, thats the authority that investigates every Single Police involved shooting, he asked the head there to resign. And welcomed the doj. And right now theres a doj investigation going on. Its underway. One of the things theyre investigating is of Course Police use of force, jake. Rosa flores, thanks. Well of course keep a close eye on the protests throughout the hour. Well be reaching out to the office of mayor emanuel to talk to him about this as well. Coming up, donald trump Standing Firm on his proposal to ban all muslims from entering the united states. And while most of his republican rivals have denounced the plan as unconstitutional, undemocratic, bigoted, senator rand paul has not been as critical. Why not . Well ask him next. Iece. I dont use super poligrip for hold, because my dentures fit well. 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