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CNNW The Lead With Jake Tapper November 24, 2017

Opposite of transparency. President trumps tax returns about to be locked down in an irs safe. What could it be that they dont want you to see . Welcome to the lead. Im jim sciutto in today for jake tapper. And we begin today with the politics lead. President trump spending the day after thanksgiving on the phone with foreign leaders and on the golf course with tiger woods. And dustin johnson. But the president s Holiday Weekend also includes new developments in the russia investigation. Michael flynns lawyers say they are not sharing information with the president s lawyers anymore. A source tells cnn that could mean the fired National Security adviser may be cooperating with the special counsel. Well have more on that in a molt. But lets start with cnns jeff zeleny. Hes in west palm beach, florida, with the president. Jeff, what are you learning about the president s calls today with foreign leaders . Reporter well, jim, we do know that President Trump just a short time ago was set to speak with egyptian president el sisi to condemn that deadly terror attack in egypt that claimed more than 230 lives. Earlier today, the president also spoke with turkish president erdogan to talk about syria. Now, all of these together in addition to the call with russian president Vladimir Putin earlier this week makes the white houses case that this vacation is a working one. On a sunsplashed day in florida, President Trump hitting the links with two of the biggest names in golf. Mr. President . Reporter tiger woods and dustin johnson. The white house rarely confirms when the president is golfing, but he made the announcement himself on twitter, saying he would be heading over to Trump National golf club, jupiter, to play golf quickly. He departed after more than four hours at the course. His visit marking the 80th day shes spent at one of his Golf Properties since taking office. And his 100th day at a trumpbranded property. Many americans and more than a few president s play golf. Its only notable because of what mr. Trump repeatedly said before winning the presidency. If i win, i may never see these pieces again because im going to be working for you. Im not going to have time to go play golf. Believe me. Reporter the president also talking by phone today with turkish president erdogan about the conflict in syria. The Turkish Foreign minister said mr. Trump pledged to stop arming a kurdish militia, the ypg, that the government considers a terrorist organization. The president also condemning the attack today in egypt, killing more than 230 people and wounding more than 100 others in the deadliest Terror Strike on egyptian soil. He called the president of egypt to discuss the attack which he also seeszed upon to push his immigration agenda. Tweeting we have to get tougher and parter than ever before and we will. Need the wall, need the ban. God bless the people of egypt. The president is also turning his attention to the tax plan up for a vote next week in the senate. He offered a preview from a thanksgiving call from maralago with American Service Members Around the world. Now were working on tax cuts. Big, fat, beautiful tax cuts. And hopefully well get that and youre going to really see things happen. Reporter the president is set to meet with congressional leaders at the white house and attend a weekly lunch of Senate Republicans on tuesday. The Senate Republicans still dont have the votes to pass the sweeping tax overhaul amid the concerns of the effects on the deficit. Congress is talking about tax cuts that will add trillions to our National Debt and hurt our economy. Reporter senator ron johnson has announced his opposition with with others voicing concerns. Senator rand paul will likely support the plan with senator john mccain as a wild card. As america marked black friday, the president s campaign joined in an the annual day after thanksgiving shopping rush with trump merchandise marked down 30 . Now, jim, the president s response to the egyptian terror attack was particularly interesting because he did use it to promote his own immigration ban and building the wall, but particularly lets take another look at that. The president talked about egypt. Egypt is not one of the eight countries, as you know, that was included in the third version of the trump travel ban. It simply wasnt included. And we also dont know who was responsible for that deadly terror attack in egypt. Nevertheless, jim, the president still using that to promote his own agenda in that tweet. No question that travel ban still working its way through the courts. Jeff zeleny, thanks very much. Now to the russia investigation and a new development into the investigation into Michael Flynn. What would make his lawyers inform other defense teams, including those working for the president that they will no longer share information . Why now . Cnns Shimon Prokupecz joins me now. Shimon, i know some of this is legal tea leaf reading, but why if they were stopping sharing information would that be a sign that flynn might be flipping . Well, there are a couple of reasons here why that could be happening here, actually, jim. And, you know, flynns lawyer perhaps believes, you know, this is no longer in his interests to cooperate here. Now based on conversations with our sources, there seemed to be ongoing talks between flynns camp and special counsel bob mueller. There are several reasons for this. For the nature of these talks. They could be negotiating a plea deal where Michael Flynn agrees to plead guilty to what the government says he did wrong and as a result he wants to distance himself from the president s team so that he doesnt do anything to jeopardize the plea deal. Now, another possibility, and this is the more significant explanation for this, is that flynn is trying to work out an agreement to cooperate with muellers investigators. In either case, flynn would want to cut off information sharing with the president s team, jim. You look at it now, we saw Michael Flynn jr. Taking back on twitter after a bit of a respite, claiming telling everybody to calm down. Not to overreact. You had donald trump jr. Venting about the russia investigation as well. But the fact is you have the president s former campaign chairman, paul manafort, the deputy chairman in rick gates and now you have his National Security adviser, at least seemingly more in the crosshairs. Thats not a good series of developments for the white house. No, absolutely not. None of these are good developments from manafort to focus on don, flynn jr. We know there is some focus on him because of the meeting that occurred during the campaign with a russian lawyer who promised some dirt. Eventually wound up promising dirt on hillary clinton. That is seemingly part of the investigation now. And all of this, really, you know, there may be some signals that perhaps this is coming to an end, but certainly the people weve been talking to, that doesnt appear to be the case and it continues to be drip, drip, drip and more developments that in the end really are not helpful to the white house. Thats right. Perhaps the prosecutor or the special counsel trying to put pressure on one so that he can get that one to provide more evidence for the next one and so on. Shimon prokupecz, thanks very much, as always. Joining me now is Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger of illinois. He serves on the Foreign Affairs committee. Happy thanksgiving. Thanks for taking the tile today. Im not going to try to treat you as a lawyer here, but youve been following the details of the investigation closely. What do you make of this development that Michael Flynn jr. Or his lawyers not sharing information with the legal team . Is that an Important Development in this investigation . Yeah, i dont really know what to make from it. What ive said from the very beginning is that America Needs answers. We need everything out there. We need to figure it out. That process means the special counsel has to go through their work and this is one step and i think, you know, even a number of steps still to happen. We want to take our time, make sure we get this right because this is a pretty big deal. I dont know what to make of it. It might be minor, it may be big. Im concerned about the leaks coming out of the special counsel. That doesnt mean this information isnt relevant, but at the same time i think americans need to sit back and say and trust that the special counsel is getting the information he needs and that were going to find out it may just not be as quick as everybody wants. We all want to know the answers to everything tomorrow. This is a long process. Weve seen the political divisions boil up inside the committees that are investigating this, separate from the special counsel. The house intel committee, the senate intel committee, perhaps a bit less so, but still divisions there. Are you concerned about that, about politics getting in the way of the congressional committees completing their investigations . Yeah. Im concerned about politics getting in the way of thanksgiving dinner and everything in this country. And, you know, literally the intel committees, i dont serve on it. I have Great Respect for the people that do. Up until recently, a very bipartisan committee. This has become very partisan. There is probably plenty to go on both sides i dont want i dont want to cast blame specifically anywhere. Politics to some people has become their religion so like everything, its put through that filter. So every piece of information we get is determined based on whether we consider ourselves a republican or democrat and not necessarily on what is true or untrue. That worries me for the future of this country long term because you can look at things through different opinion lens, of course. We come from different political backgrounds and different backgrounds all over, but i think at the end of the day we have to consider ourselves americans before we consider ourselves republicans, democrats, conservative, liberal, anything else. Preaching to the choir on that. Stick with us. Lots more to talk about, including on President Trumps reaction to that deadly mosque attack in egypt. Well be right back after this break. How do you chase what you love with moderate to severe Rheumatoid Arthritis . Do what i did. Ask your doctor about humira. Its proven to help relieve pain and protect joints from further irreversible damage in many adults. 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Do you see the an attack like this in egypt as justification for the wall or the travel ban . Are they connected . You know, i think the president , as ive always said, has the right to do a travel ban as the chief executive. I think this is part of the commander in chief thing. I think there are a difference between egypt and some of the other countries on the travel ban. The president pulled iraq off. Egypt is a beautiful country. I was just there probably a year ago now, there are issues in the sinai, and thats where a lot of this isis and terrorist issues are. Thats where todays attack is. Egypt itself is an amaze, beautiful country and everybody should go visit it. So in terms of whether or not, you know, the president , the wall and Everything Else is justified, i support the president in border security, whether its a wall or whether its a, you know, virtual wall, technical law. I think its important to protect ourselves. At the same time, we cant disengage from the world. Its important to understand we have a unique position in the world and the only way to defeat terrorism is not through missiles and bombs alone. Its an understanding that the 7 and 8yearolds today are the ones that could be the terrorists tomorrow. I hear you on that larger point, but youre well aware any time there is a terror attack anywhere, even in the uk, which is certainly not on the list, the president will glom on to whatever the attack is and say, here you go, this is why we need to ban from these search or eight countries. Its a reason you need a wall on the southern border. Why is that a relevant argument to that other debate . I dont necessarily think it is. There is not a lot of defending of the president s twitter. I think its a good tool, but i think a lot of times he doesnt use it in the way that i would use dwirt. Its important in a time where you have a terrorist attack in egypt or england or anywhere to actually be bigger and to say, you know, we will stand with our ally. We will defeat this cancer where it exists. We will Work Together and i think maybe at a different time push the issue of travel ban and wall, what youre doing is injecting domestic politics. This is a very acidic time in domestic politics. Into an issue where americans should be unified, which is defeating terror. No question. Particularly as a veteran, President Trump addressed veterans yesterday. I want to get your reaction to a particular comment he made about the fight in afghanistan. Have a listen. We opened it up. We said, go ahead, were going to fight to win. Were not fighting anymore to just walk around. Youre a vet yourself of the war in afghanistan, did you during your time there believe you were fighting to just walk around . I dont think were ever fighting to walk around, but i do think under the Prior Administration where were hamstrung in afghanistan. Im not a guy that likes to look back and blame, but i think its important to talk about when he announced a surge and a withdrawal date, he not only emboldened the enemy because they could outlast us, he took these alliances we were building in afghanistan and they were shattered. I think it is essential for the president to send the message that were in afghanistan to win this because that breaks the morale of the enemy. Look, there is never going to be a complete eradication of the taliban. Its going to take driving to the table for a negotiated solution. Every war ends in a negotiation and i think sending the message that were committed to win is how we get a negotiated solution on our terms. Congressman kinzinger, thanks very much and happy thanksgiving. You, too. Any time. Is the state department snubbing ivanka trump . Why there are new questions about a major global event the president s daughter will be attending. Thats after this. At tmobile, when you holiday together, great things come in twos. Like tmobile and netflix. Right now when you get an unlimited family plan, netflix is included. Ho ho ho tmobile covers your netflix subscription. Best Christmas Gift ever . So you can binge watch all year long. Now youre thinking christmas and now when you buy any of this seasons hot new Samsung Galaxy phones, you get a second one free to gift. Thats one samsung for you. And one to give. Tmobile. Holiday twogether. Were back now with the politics lead. Is secretary of state Rex Tillerson snubbing the president s daughter ivanka trump . She is scheduled to attend the Global Entrepreneurship summit next week in india, but despite her high profile, no highranking official from the state department with travel with her. I want to bring in cnns senior Diplomatic Correspondent michelle kosinski. Typically when the u. S. Has attended these in the past, theyve sent highranking delegations. Why isnt ivanka trump getting the same treatment . Right. It is a big deal generally. Were hearing from several sources within the state department as well as a source close to Rex Tillerson that they dont want to send senior level people even though this is put on by the state department. And ivanka trump, who is, of course, the first daughter and senior white house adviser, she was inv

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