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Indicted. Russian aggression . Intercepting a u. S. Spy plane and the pentagon firing back with angry words. Whats behind the growing number of these incidents. And ready for a road trip with marco rubio about to announce his own president ial candidacy, Hillary Clinton launches her White House Run by heading cross country, to iowa. Im wolf blitzer. Youre in the situation room. Were following major new developments in two Fatal Police Shooting of unarmed africanamericans. Our breaking news as shocking video shows the deadly moments of a fleeing suspect in oklahoma. The reserve deputy who pulled the trigger thought he was yazzing a stun gun, not a hand gun and now charged with seconddegree manslaughter. A new recorders captures the moments after Michael Slager fatally shot walter scott in South Carolina. Slager charged with murder talking seemingly like lightly how his adrenaline is pumping and now ak cuesizationing of charging nor officer on the scene. Lets begin with this new manslaughter charge in tulsa, oklahoma. Cnns ed lavandera is on the scene. Ed . Reporter well wolf those charges, criminal charge filed a short while ago here in the city of tulsa, and the attorney for robert bates the 73yearold reserve deputy accused in this shooting says he is remorseful for what has happened. Just moments before he was shot oh im sorry. Im sorry. Oh [ bleep ] oh [ bleep ]. He shot me reporter eric harris captured on Surveillance Video appearing to sell a. 9 millimeter pistol and ammunition to an undercover sheriff deputy. Moments later harris spots a swarm of underare cover agents and runs. Stot right there. Reporter a deputy tackles harris when 73yearold reserve Deputy Robert bates shouts hell use this taser. Now. Reporter the tulsa county sheriffs officer says bates instead grabbed his gun and pulled 9pull ed the trigger. Im sorry. Oh [ bleep ] he shot me. He shot me stop fighting. [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. Oh he shot me. He shot me. Do you hear me . [ bleep ] ran oh god. Oh he shot me. I didnt [ bleep ]. He shot me, man. Oh, my god. Reporter even as he lays dying the officers taunt him. Im losing my breath. Reporter a retired Police Officer named jim clark has been brought in to review the fatal incident. You can train someone as much as you can. And you train in every area that you can, but in times of crisis sometimes training is not going to take you through the scenario. Reporter with the video released questions turned to why bates, an unpaid certified reserve deputy was on the scene in such a sensitive and high risk sting operation. Mr. Bates lacked really any kind of training that mr. Bates had been a Tulsa Police Department officer from 1964 to 1965 one year and never paced probationary period. Reporter saying bates was afforded opportunities within the Task Force Due to his significant and longstanding support of the Sheriffs Department. Do anything he wanted to. You heard the Sheriffs Department say, like any other officer could do but he could do it with no training. And he could do it just with total access. I mean, cart blanche freedom to do wa when he wants to do. Incredible dangerous to a community. Reporter a Sheriff Department spokesman tells cnn it stands by the deputys actions but the d. A. Office makes clear they see it differently charges robert bates with seconddegree manselaughtermanslaughter. And, wolf, the Sheriffs Department we spoke with still supports deputy bates saying he had gone through extensive training reached the highest level of Deputy Program and inclined to be in that situation and it wasnt anything out of the ordinary and had done that worked in that environment many times before. Wolf . Ed lavandera, shocking story indeed. More on that coming up. Turn now to the Fatal Police Shooting in South Carolina. A gripping new audio recording of the moments after the Police Observation Michael Slager shot walter scott. New controversy about the actions of a second Police Officer who arrived on the scene. Piecing all this together what are you learning . Reporter the controversy in North Charleston is growing and the trouble spreading to at least one other Police Officer. The second officer who arrived on the scene is now under intense pressure and theres new audiotape of the officer who fired the fatal shots, Michael Slager and what you hear him doing has outraged people inside and outside the Law Enforcement community. In the harrowing moments after walter scott is gunned down police are desperately trying to process the scene. Tonight, for the first time we hear the voice of the man who fired the fatal shots. Officer Michael Slager in new dashcam audio, is apparently heard speaking to a senior officer about whats next. The senior officer advises him to go home wind down. Go hem, probably a good idea to kind of shut down your thoughts jot down what happened adrenaline quits pumping. Its pumping. Oh yeah oh yeah. Reporter slagers apparent laughter is an outrage to one Law Enforcement veteran. Disturbs me greatly. The worst possible thing can you do take another persons life. I as a professional Law Enforcement person very disturbed over that. Reporter another says take into account the stress of the moment. Understands hes done something wrong and has a problem. His nerves releasing somehow and i wouldnt read much into the laughter. Reporter the first officer ton the scene is under intense pressure. The officer is seen in the amateur video tending to scotts wounds. Under scrutiny is this moment when slager returning to where scotts body lies appears to be seen throwing an object next to the body. It may or may not be a taser. Habersham appears to be a couple of feet away but nowhere in habershams initial Police Report does he mention this moment. The national bar association, a group of africanamerican attorneys and judges is calling for habersham to be fired and indicted saying officer habersham deliberately left material facts out of his report. A former fbi agent says action should be taken against habersham if he saw slager drop that object. I think that the failure to do that indicates there was more loyalty to slager than there was loyalty to the ethics of the profession. Reporter some believe the criticism of officer habersham at this early stage of the investigation is unjustified. We dont know number one, where he was looking. Other things on his mind. Responding officers coming ambulance on the way. We have no way of knowing whether he, in fact, saw any actions that mr. Slager was taking. Reporter now we reached out to the attorney for officer Clarence Habersham and to the North Charleston Police Seeking response from all of those entities to the new allegations against habersham. The attorney did not get back to us. The police said they would not comment citing the investigation. South carolinas Law Enforcement division handleing the probably did not respond. Officer Michael Slagers attorney did not respond to the criticism of his apparent laughter right after the shooting. A second new audiotape, brian that has surfaced right after the shooting. Right . Reporter captures a little emotion right afterward, yes. The second audio taken from dashcam video from inside a patrol car captures a phone call between lag slager and someone cnn believes is his wife. Hey, hey, everything is okay. I just shot somebody. He grabbed my taser. Says yeah a couple times. He was running from me. Im fine. Wolf . Another major development, brian. Thanks very much. Lets go live to South Carolina now. Martin savage in North Charleston where the pain is deep outrage, and the family of walter scott, are they looking to see the second Police Officer who arrived on the seen do they want him investigated, maybe even charged . Reporter at this particular point they say no. Comfortable with the fact is under investigation by stays Law Enforcement, the oversight body looking into the entire incident and will wait and see what those investigators come forward with when it comes to the second officer and whether or not they should be indicted on charges. Some protesters said definitely there should be an officer indicted over this matter, but in the Community Overall seems now its a wait and see attitude wolf. The Police Community in north cars charleston have she responded to the arrest, the murder charge of that fellow officer. Reporter a few are opening or talking publicly about their feelings however those quoted in other areas have said that theyre deeply troubleed by what theyve seen. We already know the chief of police was sickened by the video. We know the mayor has been very sympathetic towards resulter scotts family. The only supporting the officer right now are, of course, his 340er mothers, his wife and second attorney. Remember his first attorney stepped away from the case. It would seemly in Law Enforcement right now are backing out from any kind of support when it comes to Michael Slager. What about the protest theres in North Charleston . What have they been like . Reporter well on a daily basis. One is just starting to warm up behind us now. Theyve been peaceful, all of them, and primarily people giving their own statements and times theyve suffered at the hands of local Law Enforcement. Last night, new reinforcements arrived. Those who protested in ferguson moshgs missouri. Seems the attitude may be changing going from what had been simple demonstration to what now in the organization say will be resistance. Wolf . Martin thank you. Martin savidge reporting from North Charleston South Carolina for us. Joining uses Sedrick Alexander president of the organization of black Law Enforcement executives and serves on president obamas task force on 21st century policing. As usual, thank you very much for joining us. Talk first about what Shocking Development in tulsa, oklahoma that reserve deputy 73yearold bob bates, now facing seconddegree manslaughter charges. Let me play the tape once again. Watch this. I dont think we have that tape right now. Were not going to play it but saw it just before. Soapsedly thought he was using a taser instead of a handgun and shot and killed the suspect in this case. What do you make of it . Well the whole scene is going to be troubling and its going to raise a number of questions, wolf. In regards to the procedure itself. Certainly, the officers were working wipp inging inging within their right in terms of making an arrest. Once they got handson subject, something very clearly and very tragic went wrong. Now, this could be a training issue. Of course taking into account, that is a very high stressful time for everyone involved but anytime someone is shot even accidentally in an incident such as that it certainly creates a great deal of pause, particularly a climate were in at this very moment. The other thing rather disturbing about that whole piece of footage even after the victim was shot an appearance of absolutely no concern to his wellbeing even after they determined he was shot and you saw that and you heard it quite frankly, through much of the verbal conversation that took place on that video. I think we have that video. Let me see if we can play it right now. Watch this. Stop right there. [ bleep ]. I roll on your stomach, now i shot him. Im sorry. Ah oh he shot me. He shot me he oh stop fighting [ bleep ] oh oh oh he shot me. He shot me. He you hear me . Put your hands behind your back [ bleep ]. Disturing. Eastern after shot you saw what was going on. The investigators brought in to look at the case says bates is the reserve deputy the 73yearold, not a paid Police Officer. That he hadnt done anything criminally wrong but the Sheriffs Department is Still Standing behind bates, the Sheriffs Department recommended not pressing charges but in this particular case, as you know the District Attorney decided to move forward with the charges of seconddegree manslaughter charge. Do you think thats appropriate . Well i mean whats going to be appropriate in that community is going to be based on what the investigative bodies in this case the d. A. s office determine as being appropriate. And im certainly not going to question what they do or not do. I think the important piece is that this is still an Ongoing Investigation, and i think a number of factors need to be taken into account, but if thats the position that the d. A. Takes at this point, then he or she certainly reserves the right to do so based on the evidence that has been presented to them. What worries you is that in the aftermath of the shooting, they really are still pounding away not really trying to do anything to save his life. Right . Well thats what it appears to be, but, of course, wolf you and i are not there. And ive been in situations or similar to this before and many of us who have been in a profession for a period of time know were be very challenging, but heres a man who has been shot. And its very clear to everyone that he has been shot. But some of the language and footage there is somewhat i think, disturbing and this all could go back to training and hopefully more training than just attitude. Its just in tulsa. North charleston South Carolina, the shooting of walter scott there officially label add traffic stop gone wrong before the video emerged, that horrific video weve all seen by now. Do you believe these charges, the murder charge against the Police Officer, Michael Slager works have gone forward if that video didnt exist . Well one thing is very evident here its that we do have the video. The video certainly tell as story. A great significant part of that story that is going to be very important going forward, and here again, in the state of South Carolina the Law Enforcement will along with the d. A. s office felt it was appropriate, had probable cause, obviously, in order to affect an arrest and, therefore, thats going to be respected from where i am regardless of the decision that they made. So, therefore, based on everything we see, we clearly see something wrong here in South Carolina. That was just disturbing and shocking to all of us inside the Law Enforcement community and outside as well too. And now there are calls for some sort of Serious Investigation of a second Police Officer there who arrived on the scene. Sedrick, stand by. 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