Parents apartments because they believe that is the way to go. This is what their parents are brought them here. This is what they are doing. They are on the stoops every hour of every night. We know when the African Americans were doing that, the police were up making sure we were not able to do that. They latina Police Officers are the coalition who do not want to arrest their own. They are showing the same kind of corrupt behavior we have seen in these latin countries and their police departments. I do not believe that people should be kicked out. I do believe that there should be a very heavy penalty. If i broke federal law, i expect to be in prison. They have broken federal law by coming here legally. In the u. S. Illegally . Most are. They are parents of children who have come here. They made a point to have their children here. Theyre not bad people. The parents. The children are not taking the respect of what they were given, and they want to play this modern subculture. Every single day, no matter where i go, i have to listen to them throwing around the nword. They dont have any respect for this country. You dont have any respect for the africanamericans, believing they are better than. This is going to make it more difficult for my nieces and nephews, and the rest of my families to the anywhere because they are sticking together as if they are new mafia, because this country didnt do what it was supposed to do in the first place by letting them flow in your freely. Next more coming up in the hour. And little later on, we will ask would ask what you president obama in his News Conference tomorrow. Were doing our town halls tomorrow. Congress is in recess. They are doing town hall checking tweets, checking town halls. We mentioned the town hall last night, here he is taking a pie in the face for charity today. He is from nebraska. He says that joining local , rs for the farm bill covering that tomorrow, an event with sheldon whitehouse. Run your calls coming up. We once take a look at the town hall that happened yesterday in illinois caller . Is a very general statement. Are you for National Security . I think there is no doubt that we need Immigration Reform. Our Current System is not working for employers or people who are trying to come here legally. It is not working for our agonist or he, the number one industry in my district. I have met with manufacturers and International Groups in springfield, having a heart in getting visas to get into the country. Then come our office deals with immigration as a federal issue on a daily basis. She wakes up every morning and gillett immigration. Nobody thinks our Current System does not work. How we fix it obviously, the devil is in the details. What i have been as a proponent of the house is advancing the ball down the court. I do not believe we are ever going to have a purpose perfect solution. I have 20 boxes, and we have to check all 20 boxes for me to vote for a bill, but i do think that the sentiment a good first attempt read the house can make it better. Ist the house is going to do that they are going to move a stepbystep approach. One bill after another, dealing with the various issues. First, the Border Security bill that moves. That is going to be an easy bill to pass. Supportd with unanimous , almost every republican or democrat on Homeland Security voted for the bill. I think that will definitely help. That is a done deal. Then your point to deal with your hightech visas, and your ag program. Youre going to get bipartisan support on those. I do not know what the language is going to look like. A third bill would deal with the dream act kids. You will get a bipartisan support on that. The people here currently illegally, what the path is for them. There are people in the house who think we should find a way to grant them legal status. But not path to citizenship. People say no, they have to have a path to citizenship. My mindset is that people should come forward and pay a penalty , and fine, a probationary im not the camp that believes that people should have to leave the country in order to get in line. I happen to leave that is an unrealistic expectation that 11 men 11 Million People will leave. Made on the place to go back to even if they wanted to. I think it is adversely affecting their self identification. Work, ever we passed to to be a real reform bill. I want to be constructive to the overall process of having more Legal Immigration down the road. Host part of a townhall yesterday, a republican congressman from illinois and and posting that youtube video. Taking look at a Public Policy issue and politics of the next 45 weeks. Congress is in recess. Part of the issue tonight is immigration and the economy. A look ahead to the house debate coming in september. You had representatives talk about how that may proceed. Joining us is Christina Peterson, with the wall street journal. She has had a frontpage piece they had liedoday said some democrats waver on immigration. Hank you for joining us people look at the bill and so the democrats voted in favor of the Senate Immigration bill. We may not see the same results in the house just because there are some democrats who come from conservative leaning districts in may the has a tent with certain aspects of immigration. Some members who belong to coalitions like the blue dog coalition, and new democrats, some have reservations about what to do with the 11 Million People who are Illegal Immigrants living in the united states. That is the most controversial aspect of what the house is going to do. They have concerns that reflect a lot of the same concerns the more moderate rubble consent. Host whatever piece of legislation set, Speaker Boehner is going to need every democrat he can to pass it. And these democrats maybe more willing to vote with what a centrist will be. It is hard to tell at this point. We do not know what the contours will be of a house bill dealing with legalization. Some democrats are wanting to state whether position is going to be without knowing what the legislation is going to look like. They are having people who are not ready to commit either way yet. That serves as an additional mystery surrounding the final vote count. Outlinesard some broad from illinois. What do you expect the first couple of visas of legislation will be . I certainly think the Border Security is something they are going to do early on. So many have said that is their top priority. Also, some cases involving either of five, the employee verification system. That is probably going to be very early on. I do not know at what point theyre going to handle the trickiest pieces of legislation, those dealing with civilization citizenship. That is something that leaders have said they do want to tackle. I saw something you wrote today about the mechanics on the democratic side in terms of getting what they want in the legislation on the floor. What was the article about . Guest we were looking at the idea of some democrats mulling over trying to start a discharge petition, which was a procedural the candy that is not successful very often. It has not been successful since 2002 on Campaign Finance reform. It is a way for the minority to force the vote on an issue they care about if you get the majority of house members to sign onto its. There is a sense that it is possible there is majority of people in the house that would support copper into the Immigration Reform. The question is whether you could get enough republicans to sign something that is seen as a slap in the face to leadership. Even those that might be supported of these immigration bills muddy reluctant to sign onto something that is seen as a rebuke to the rubble can leaders. Host Krishna Peterson on the line with us Christina Peterson on the line with us. Brandon infrom michigan. Thank you for waking. Caller thank you for hosting this townhall. Whatld agree with some of they are prison attends said early. I love the people on the rubble can side, this is about disenfranchising people. That is absolutely not the case. I care about all people when it comes to this country. They should have the opportunity. I do not think they should do illegally. There is a way to do that, a line that you can get 10, and file a legal application to come to this country. It is outrageous that people are trying to impose the idea that we should grant amnesty to people who are already in this country, and they should be able to live here become citizens without having to go to the application process that some already do. I do not think that if we as americans try to go to another country, entered illegally into the country, and love their, and that thecome citizens, government would have any say or allow any part in that. Other thing, obviously a lot of the people who are involved in this immigration debate are hispanics and latinos. We have to keep in mind that that is not just the entire immigration. There are people from all over the world that want to come to the united states. Her from a woman who came here in 1990. I think that is something we need to keep open. It needs to be an important debate we have. It will be difficult in congress. I think as a resident of shock said, we have to divide it up. Gradually, move along to the last hurdle. To grant amnesty to people in this country who are here illegally, which i disagree with. That would be a good plan and move the discussion along. Host how much agreement is . Here on the issue of the visas the hightech positions . Is there more agreement on that . The amnesty . Guest that is provision that has wide bipartisan support. A lot of support from the community, which is lobbying lawmakers heavily to pass something. Democrats of may clear that they are only willing to support granting more visas if they also get their top priority, which is a path to citizenship Illegal Immigrants living here. They are not willing to do in isolation. That is true of many provisions. Low skilled workers, visas for agricultural workers, and things that both sides agree on, but democrats have said we only want to do this as part of a larger package. Host from miami, tony. Excuse me, tony on democrats line. What i want to say is shame on this government, the republicans and democrats, all they do is argue back and forth. When you look at the real issue, the real issue is it doesnt matter what and who come over here, as long as they come over here to work, just like everybody else, pay taxes, and it is a crying shame when you whatever, people that just them over here. And, they came over here about three months ago, i heard a cuban guy at the Social Security office say that god bless america. Months,een over here 13 since ive been over here, i have not worked, i have not done anything. He had one leg. They approved him for ssi, medicaid, and food stamps. He said he had no papers. Once they come over here and they allow them to come to the detention center, they come out, they get a visa, sent right to the Social Security office, and missile Security Office and the Social Security office approves them. They send them over to the Social Security the food stamp office, and get food stamps. Host lets hear from christina. What is it that has been passed that would deal with federal benefits for the undocumented immigrants . Restricteds pretty in terms of what you would get. Illegal immigrants would not have access to federal benefits. Once you have legal provisional status, you would still have to buy your own health care. There was some question of you would be a noble eligible for all tax credits. You would have eligibility to get some deductions and credits based on what you are paying. One of the things that they have agreed on is that you would not have access to healthcare until you became a citizen. Once you become a citizen, you would be eligible. Has been a key point that has been a key point. Illegal immigrants do not have access to that. Host you can read her work in the wall street journal. She is reporting on twitter. Thank you for joining the conversation tonight. Guest thank you. Host we are bringing you a discussion of immigration, and the economy. The founder of facebook has started and a nonprofit that is promoting Immigration Reform. The headline says mark launches an group august recess at offensive. I want to show you one launched group. Here is what it looks like. My a la hunter oh family moved to chicago. America is the only country ive ever known. My senior year of high school, i was promoted. I held the rank of a debt brigadier. I was head of the chicago rotc. I want to be a citizen. Im going to be a marine. I care about this country. Back. Ant to give i believe 100 of what this country stands for. Let me turn it. Let me serve. I just want an opportunity. I want a chance. I want to show everyone out there that i am american. I will honorably served this country wearing the marine corps uniform. That is a net posted by u. S. , thezation fwd. Founder of facebook. We are taking your calls and comments, including this one from twitter. Ourow would it support broken system when it would allow current ilLegal Immigration . The pace was conservative politics that promotes neoliberal economic agendas. South county faces a wave of illegal immigrant deaths as they come for amnesty. Next up, this is dan. Caller one of the politics, the big topic is the fence theyre talking about building, which we know the government has funded three times to do this and it hasnt been built. It is going to be policy blunder. The main thing is, we need a fence. We need to enforce what laws are on the books. We dont need more laws. We just need to enforce what laws are on the books. People that are hiring Illegal Immigrants, they laws should be enforced. They would be encouraged to hire them if they were in force. System, ise, the broken. It is not broken. We are sidestepping the system. Not enforcing the laws are in place. Encourage people to come here knowing that they are not going to be prosecuted for coming year illegally. Obviously means well. He has been doing in honoring thing. Doing, hething he is is here illegally. He went to a school, got funded, got his skull paid for and everything. Not even legal here. My great grandparents, and all my parents have been paying taxes. Ost you pointed that guy what is the answer . What you do with individuals . Caller again, it is a can of worms. Where do we draw the line . Just say, lets stop. Lets start enforcing. These guys should start getting registered. Just to say. They are coming in every day. They are coming in both borders. Others, which is in the do with nationality, it has to do with them coming here illegally. Why would they come here . I know for sure that there are people here illegally that are ,etting government funding childcare, welfare, and bragging about it. They get fake ids. They just go on the office, and they hand them out. Host lets go to nevada. Rick is on the net line. Caller i grew the last caller. A want to make three quick points. The myth that food prices would go up if we didnt have illegal aliens working on the forms. And, andr is only 5 8 you get farm workers in this country. If you raise wages, you will have workers. I also look for cspan as a previous caller said to hope that you would cover the black American Leadership alliance, a case in washington dc where he had black americans and white americans and is paired americans marching together as citizens, not asking for entitlements, but asking for jobs, which is a big complaint you have. Bit more skin be more wrong about how to get the hispanic vote. The 2000 elections, there was only one candidate who actually had written an amnesty, though everyone knew was for amnesty, and that was john mccain. Healy got 31 of these panic vote in that election. The only thing i think president obama has set in the debates was that he wasnt forgiving drivers licenses to illegal analysts illegal aliens. 31 of the vote compared to obamas 67 . He didnt even get half of the hispanic vote. Everyone knows he is pro amnesty. The is the way to attract hispanic vote . They are not only wrong, but they are insulting hispanic americans. Host why do republicans like itris say they have to do for the sake of the future of the party . Caller because it sounds right. Because when you say, you think, that sounds right. Hispanic americans have been proven again and again, do the research, they vote the same way all americans vote. They vote based on income. Low income people do not vote for public ends for publicans. This is another myth that sounds right, and allows the republicans to say frequented get the hispanic vote, we have to get the amnesty. It is an insult. What it is saying is that the Republican Party is saying we can buy votes. It is an insult. Host thank you for that comment. An event that cspan did not cover. We do try to have a broad balance of events. Including a discussion of the bush institute, which may have seen earlier, looking at the panels, and the benefits of Immigration Reform. I understand how businesses see a bottomline benefit. Im not sure i get have a say bottomline benefit in citizenship. The benefits of the individual, the economy, but a bottomline for my restaurant, was the benefit of having people working for me to be citizens . It is a great question. We had to talk people through it. What if somebody is eligible for citizenship . Are they here legally . Take a deep breath. The first question, what the citizenship process . Ok, through that process, people are learning additional skills. That bottom line impacted that. It really comes down to every business at the end of the day, yes there is a bottomline impact. They want to be a part of the story. They want to tell a good story. It was attila good story to the