Transcripts For CSPAN Discussion On Islamic State And Al-Qae

Errorey are judging people are muslim people arab people are muslim people, so i know what it feels like to be discriminated against. I think we should talk about why these people got upset and angry on their job. What part of the bosses or administrators play . We have to listen to the jokes that are inappropriate and favoritism. I love my country, i am still shocked. Host as i hear you, i almost get the sense that you are just a fine what may end up being Workplace Violence . Caller i am saying that if they dont look at the people are struggling and the continued to be unfairly fired. Host we will get a response. Thank you. Guest i agree with what you are , that initially whe discrimination is wrong, absolutely. Employeesloyers and be subject to some sort of sanctioning for proving dissemination . Absolutely. Somehows Commission Excuse the fact that people lose their lives . Absolutely not. One of the things that i talk about with companies is the concept of Employee Assistance program or eap, every company has a different name, and when i go places and asked them, it is one of the first questions i asked, physical security is great, but you also made the process for employees to report behavior. Before the fbi study came out last year, the secret service in 2002 released a study in response to columbine called the states Code Initiative study. They went back and studied active shooter of events from study had02, and the several groundbreaking findings, but one of the findings was in every single instance of a shooting, somebody saw something that did not know who to report it to. One of the things i talk about with businesses and companies is, hey, do have an appointment assistance programs . If the employee is always arguing with his wife on the phone, having anger issues, who do i talk to . When you go talk to your manager and you talk about the present worried to come at the manager does not know what to do and they go to hr. Hr does not know what to do, so everyone is worried about the freedom of information and privacy laws, so let your eap handle that. Make sure you have your employees systems programs and make sure it is publicized within the company. The phone number is there. A lot of times, that information is given to people when they are hired and three years later, they do not know where that literature is or number is. I do think it is important and i agree with her in that aspect that there needs to be a program in place and every company should have an Employee Assistance program. Host one of our viewers is following up on the caller ansys, in my experience, it is true. Absolutely is no help in creating the content and productive workplace. Guest that is true. When i talk to them, there is no partnership between hr and security. A lot of times it is because they have not thought about that or theyre worried about the viability of a privacy law but you are not filing any privacy law by having a discussion with your security professionals. Channelom the fox news reaction, one of the neighbors in San Bernardino, california, saying that he had seen suspicious activity but did not report it. Guest i saw that headline as well. Once again, they probably were unaware of where do they reported to. If all this fails and you do not to, reportedeport to the local Police Department. I think james comey had a Great Press Conference this week, as well as other members of the fbi, and one of the things they said was this wouldve handled these things confidentially and they will not go bursting down the door. These are handled with followup investigations and reports of suspicious behavior and their handled delicately. So people willd not be fearful of what will happen if they are reported. Host lets go to houston, texas. Carl is next. Welcome. Caller thank you particular call. Thank youd of for taking my call. I find it strange or talking about security, but it seems that these security measures only affect americans. Who performed the you seem willing to hire them but you will not higher americans. It is crazy. American may have something in his record 10 years ago and that would exclude him from a job, but you go to these same where theor countries people want to kill us, and you hire them all day long. I am in houston, texas, and i see these people and i do not have a problem, but the reality is you all are acting like it is americans, it is not americans whog that, it is the people have made all the security acts for the people. Host youll get a response. Should be some sort process. G i am not a legal expert, and if somebody has something in their background, some sort of criminal act where they have been convicted or arrested for, i do not necessarily think that that should exclude them from employment but that is not my decision. That is what local and federal levels have to determine. Host of course, that can be determined, but as we saw in virginia shooting, one month, two months, in this case, three months, they came back. Guest absolutely. And there is nothing to prevent that. One of the things i talk about, regardless of your religious belief, hindu, buddhist, atheist, i think we can all agree that when it is your time to go, it is your time to go. Takeesses or citizens can every step to ensure the security and something can still happen. One of the things i tell people, kiss your kids every day, tell them that you love them and live your life to the fullest because you never know. Is former secret service agent, 12 years in that agency and is not a private security consultant, and we are talking about what to do if you are in an active shooter situation in the workplace, at home or any public location. Kim joins us next from new york. Welcome. Caller good morning. Commentanted to call to on the comment he made about vetting people as they are being hired. I believe there should be some in fault, but somebody who had something happen 12 years, 30 years in the past and they do not hire them for that without some kind of research on that because whether it be a misdemeanor or felony, they could have paid for the problem that they had and been rehabilitated and been an active citizen. I am not sure i think it really kills jobs or kills employment when you have companies that go to the extreme. If he is a felon, oh, my god, we will not hire him. I believe in vetting. Guest i agree with him wholeheartedly. A copy at should be the if someoneld be that has something in the background, especially a filing crime, regardless of whether or not they paid for that consequence, that should be investigated. How do you investigate that . Well, someone needs to read the file and pulled the police report. Was it an adolescent mistake or something deeper than that . Hardly with the caller that i do not think anybody should be excluded from employment because of something in their background but the incident should be investigated. Host lets go to kathy in new mexico. Good morning. Caller thank you, cspan. Love the show. I would like to take this to the comment he made recently thatg that would there really is no way we can foresee how these situations will be in the end. Started based on christian values. People. Ill we need to find out what in the this country so violent as opposed to other westernized and civilized countries. Where is the violence coming from . If you called yourself a christian nation, violence against violence. Here and they were not immigrants, they were colonizers, and they murdered millions of native americans. Now, here we have the situation where innocent people are being killed in the workplaces, in their schools, in restaurants, where is the violence in america coming from . Violence. Ves its i do not have any enemies. I do not know anybody. Most people want to go to her, live their lives, raise their children and have a future. That is general across all people of all lands and countries. That is what most people want. People do not want the violence, but as one of the previous callers said, we need to go back to the root cause. Cane to not bible, kill his brother with a gun. Are you going to outlaw clubs or sticks . Until we get to the root cause of the violence in this country and what is making everyone so angry to the point where they go to these extremes, if we do not deal with this sickness pervading the nation, i would say we need to look at, very seriously, what we do in these companies, as the previous caller said, what is causing someone to be this angry . Thank you for this gentleman this morning. Host kathy, i went to thank you i want to thank you ellie will give him a chance to response. , steve, toe is a lot digest, but once again, as i said earlier in this interview, the Second Amendment debate in this country has really become a political issue, along the lines of abortion and other debate,. What causes debates. What causes these shootings and Violent Crime . I wish i had answer. If i had the answer, i would be a very rich man. I am reading a book right now about ballet Police Department about the l. A. Police department and homicide investigations. One of the underlying trends is that a lot of the Violent Crime is caused by over and under urbanng in neighborhoods and i dont necessarily disagree with that. I think those are areas we need to look at. Specifically about active shooting events and acts of violence in the workplace, the two competing. , once again by these two prominent knowledges, one at texas and one at northeastern, i do not think i do not know if they will stop at the big way or the other. Is it an increase in the Violent Crime because we are becoming more violent as the society . I do not know the answer. All i can do is sort of research what is out there and advise companies on these sort of current research. Host the final point from rick say that the call from new mexico is right because americans do not want to look at ourselves. Afraid of what we might see. One quick call, john from illinois. 30 seconds. Caller thank you. My question was, in all the Mass Shootings that have taken place, how many times has a victim who actively carried a weapon actually stopped issued or defended his life . Guest good question. I get asked that from time to time. The problem in answering that definitively is that there has been a number of editorials about that exact question. Excuse me. I do not know the exact answer because i have questions about the exact statistic and about how the game about the statistic and how the kim about the statistic. Even though i do not jump into the Second Amendment debate, one of the things i do say is that these events and in a few ways. One, the shooter kills himself, they either surrender or they are killed by Law Enforcement. What do Law Enforcement carry . Firearms. I think there is no debate about how these events and and they are usually ended with people with guns. Host bill gage on the report on issa supporters in america. Political reporter on School Improvement grants designed to raise performance on the worstperforming schools. As always, we take your calls, and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. Live atton journal, 7 00 a. M. Eastern on cspan. Tonight on the communicators, terrorism and the use of social media. Well examine how social media is used by various terrorism groups to radicalize and recruit new members from around the world. We are joined by Alberto Fernandez and mark wallace. Both guests recently testified at a House Oversight Committee Hearing on radicalization, social media, and the rise of terrorism. If you look at the world, if you look at the production of media worldwide, if you look at hollywood, madison avenue, there is no doubt that there are more of us than there are of them. But if you look at the narrow space where people are searching for this type of stuff, in this sub world, this e,bculture, in this nich they radically outnumber everyone. I think that we are to have a robust discussion in the United Companies areese no really under their platforms. I think that they have two put policies in place that limit and deny the ability of terrorists. If they dont, i think we have to have a realworld discussion. Do these platforms become material for terrorist groups . Watch the communicators, live at 8 00 p. M. Eastern on cspan2. The Heritage Foundation held a panel friday examining the president s counterterrorism strategy and whether it is enough to fight terror groups like isis and al qaeda in order to keep the homeland safe. The San Bernardino mouse shooting was touched on. This is about 90 minutes. Thank you for coming. We have about 1. 5 hours scheduled for this event. What i think we should do is each panelist should speak and and then we will have time for questions and discussion at the end. So if you have questions, please keep those in mind. I will come back up after panelists talk and then i will recognize people. We have microphones, so if you would wait for a microphone, before you ask your question. Just state your name and affiliation. Hopefully, we will have plenty of time for a great exchange. I really believe there will be so many things worth talking about. This is something i have really wanted to do for a long time. When president obama first came into office, they first asked me and other analysts about what was changing. We used to joke and say it is kind of bushlike. In many ways, you see many of the instruments and practices that the Obama Administration used were virtually identical to what the Bush Administration does, except the use different they use different verbiage. But it looked pretty much the same. Over the course of the first half of the president s administration, i really think you saw the president put his stamp on how to combat transnational terrorism around the world, with taking troops out of iraq. With the surge shaped in afghanistan. Publishing a new counterterrorism strategy, which i think was not just a piece of paper, it really reflects how the administration sought to combat global transnational terrorism worldwide. And, when we analyze that document we were actually quite critical and we said, to be blunt, we do not think this will work. We think that transnational terrorism will be a bigger problem down the road then it is today. So, i have long wanted to bring together a panel of experts, not just to say, got you. Who is right and who is wrong. But to really kind of honestly assess what is the state of the threat today, this is long before we had the tragic shooting in San Bernardino or the events in paris, we have been working on organizing this. It so happens that this panel happens at a time when we have some very high profile events going on. This is a terrific panel, what i would like to do is very briefly introduce you to them in the order in which i will ask them to speak. After they each have an opportunity to make some comments we will get into a broader discussion. First is katherine gorka. She is the president of the Threat Knowledge Group as well as the council on global security. From 20092014, she was executive director of the westminster institute, which has done some really great work. Both her and her husband, seb, who i think are recognized, really two of the most thoughtful analysts. There is synergy there when you marry people like that, you get more than the sum. It is great to have her here. You might be familiar with a very important book that she coedited, fighting the ideological war Winning Strategies from communism to islamicism. And she just has a recent Research Report out which has gotten a lot of press. We ask her to talk about the domestic terrorist threat. That is something on our minds. After her, lisa curtis who is our analyst here at the Heritage Foundation who covers south asia issues. South asia is a particularly important piece of the puzzle, when we think about the future of the transnational terrorist threat. Lisa is a remarkable analyst, not just because of her analytical abilities, but because she has had long service in that part of the world. Everybody knows her. When i go there, everybody says, look there is lisa curtis. And some guy. And, really she is without question one of the most wellrespected analysts, not just here but really in the region in which this matters. People there turned to her to understand what is going on. And jim phillips is also here at heritage. He is the oldest analyst here. The longestserving, i mean. [laughter] he is not older than the middle east, but he has been studying the region for a great deal of time and he is without question one of the most sought after and respected analysts. Not just in the greater middle east, but including north africa. Having Bruce Hoffman here is just a particular honor. I have been waiting to say this all day, bruce is actually bruce has actually been studying terrorism as long as i have known my fiancee, over 40 years. Which says a lot about both of us. In terms of our perseverance and our ability to conclude things. [laughter] and also, truth in advertising, bruce is also my boss, he is the director for strategic studies at georgetown university, one of the premier National Security education programs, not just in washington but the entire country. He has had long service there, and ran, literally one of the most recognized experts in the world and he just completed an important term as a commission that improved workings of the fbi and how they have adopted to dealing with transnational terrorism and radicalization after 9 11. And so to have him here to play put a capstone on all that, that is really important. And then, to round out the panel we have sarah carter. You have probably heard about her, the character on marvel, maybe not. This is the real carter, she goes to all of the dangerous parts of the world and she is one of the bravest investigative reporters you could ask for. And so, i asked her to come. Really, we want her