Transcripts For CSPAN Former Neo-Nazi Tony McAleer Discusses

Came together as not for profit o as former members and leaders of white supremacist leave t to help people the place we once were. After a meet nothing dublin ideas, ed by google called summit against violent extremism. They brought together violent the mists, ira, and protestant tier force, farc, red brigade, fighter mind off, name it, you transcended race, glass, gender, geography, ideology. What was fascinating was the and es of both entry leaving were similar. The reason why people joined sense of know, belonging, sense of identity, a purpose, excitement. Human beings are driven by the loved and that looks like attention, acceptance, approval and when we canhings are lacking, find them in unhealthy places know, the way out, you two stories that came up the most were the birth of a child anecdotally, a daughter eemed more prevalent factor, and receiving compassion from someone who we dont feel we particular, om, in from someone who we feel we have past. Anized in the those stories of compassion are so transformational that we to get together, pull our experience and knowledge to help people where we once were Mission Statement of life after hate is to help individuals and communities to a place of compassion and forgiveness for themselves and for all people. Numbers will be on the screen if you want to ask questions about the group and experience. You define several reason yes people end up in the groups. Ow did you end up with the white aryan resistance . Guest im involved with a groups before that, but if i go right back to the beginning and look at my childhood, i was there bright, sensitive, little mischief us, defiant kind of kid, curious and open to the world. House where it wasnt safe to be emotionally sensitive. In on my i walked father with another woman. It was like, bang, god fell off pedestal. Im sure a number of viewers can relate to that. And angry,y confused felt betrayed by the Authority Figure necessary my life. A straight a student in grade five at age of 10 to a at grade six and age of 11. I didnt come from an family, it was a middleclass doctors family. Psychiatrist, im not sure if that was the issue. They got together with my school an allboys catholic school. Point that at that they were going to try to beat the grade intoes me. If i didnt 11, get a or b on major tests and beaten and i was hit on the rear end with a yardstick. Elton from listening to john and queen to clash and sex pistols and got into the punk extremely angry and the music reflected that. I found myself involved in member of ene and a the first time i met skin head necessary vancouver, i met them england, standing outside a punk rock show, i was martins, iair of doc came back from england. Rob my heads wanted to boots. And those guys, my feet size those guys ended up becoming my friend. Strategy g survival befriend the bully, become the bully and i sought safety at the the hurricane. In order to have their protection, i had to have their respect. Me to have their respect, i had to commit the ame violence that they did and violence was something new to me. T was also something that was thrilling and exciting. I got a sense of protection, a notorie ty, er and the things i was short of and ack nothing my life at the time. I found filled by this skinheads movement. A place, the music seen gave me permission and framework to be violent and dehumanize others. Learn more about your story as we go on. Get callers to ask you questions. Mississippi, independent line, you are on with tony mcaleer of the group life after hate. Go ahead. Caller i think the hate groups ive the way were supposed like were living and if they dont, put them in jail. That . Nt we do host okay. That . Ad, anything from guest yeah, well, i think world, oming into this they are not born hateful and violent. Somewhere along the way, something diverts them from a and i think we need to recognize that the is of of the groups, make no mistake about it, if left unchecked it ends up in the think we , murder, i saw that at charlottesville. Separate, we t to dont accept the violence, dont ideology, but there is a human being there. The way we work with people to ring them back, we have compassion, we hold them accountable for any crimes committed. They dont get a free pass, they still a human being and the most powerful thing we can do is have compassion. The hardest things we can do as a fair and just ociety, have compassion for someone who has no compassion, hey are the ones that need it most. Host from pennsylvania, derby, hello. Morning, ello, good thank you for taking my call. Commend you for having the courage to express yourself and try to help understand what is going on. Question is this. Racism is like an a man is seeking a drink, one drink is not enough and two more. Can you address that . Yeah. My own personal life, i didnt 100 overnight, it was an incremental increase and i got was really a framework to justify the anger feeling. Nce i was there is an old expression, what transmit. Transform, we that made sense to me and gave i spent 15 years trying o make myself better by changing the world outside me. What i realize now is that if i hange the world inside me, i have more impact in the world than i ever could have imagined. Level to lieve the which we dehumanize other human eings is internally disconnected and dehumanized we are. E take false path to try to correct that internal turmoil, we get like a quick sugar fix, last long, we need more and more. I think your caller is right. Tony mcaleer, you spoke about people who get part of the organizations they ltimately lead to act of violence, how far did that go for you . Absolutely beatings, for sure. Mostly against people that were opposed to us. Charlottesville riots. The ideology went far deeper that and we stockpiled ssault weapons, stockpiled ammunition, we were waiting for fullarmed and conflict to break out and, you now, the rhetoric you see on t. V. , where they talk about this is just about pride and it is just about nationalism and stuff that, ive ive been in the onservations behind the chat rooms and behind closed doors and read the turner diaries, we day of the rope, why just like isis, our enemies hanged from lamp posts. Thirst s capacity and a for violence that exists in the violent far right that is i think Society Needs to understand that and we like to think we have the moral that were to think so different from isis, but this ideology leads to the exact same place. Host republican line. Youngstown, ohio, steven, go ahead. The r yes, i think president gave a very good on anation of his position the situation and it seems like people just manifest their own problems all the time and done. Ng is ever getting the president wants to do all this stuff for everyone and they ive him a hard time all the time. And this starts up, it starts up, whatever. I think it was very good. I think hes a very good resident, one of the best president s they had so far and that is about all i can think of other things,e is but thank you very much for your mcaleer, you are from vancouver, your perspective n how the white house handled in situation in charlottesville and the issue of White Nationalist groups and those related to that . As a ll, i think 01c3, we have to be careful as to what we say. I think the challenge is if we make the president the focal from all of this, then i hink people can offload their responsibility. This underlying issue, this disease in society, was here long before the president. T will be here during his presidency and it will be here fter his presidency, if we focus on making it above the resident, then i think we really limit the options that we table. The this needs to be corrected at a much deeper level, it needs to corrected in more societal oneonone level. Change, not needs to from the top down, but from the bottom up. Need to look ings at every action and every moment of everyday and see how we can people to be better. As human beings, we operate from of two places. One is love and one is fear. And the only way were going to overcome the division in the society is if we all come together and operate from that love. Of fear doesnt help and i think we need to take responsibility for actions, our word, how human t treat other beings, if we put it on one man, t is too much and were not going to get what we need done. Host one more question related that. Your organization was set to receive a grant from our government at the end of the administration, that grant was rescinded by this administration, could you give context, why you would receive the grant and why you now . Not getting it guest so contrary to what may there in the media, the grant was 400,000. The primary applicant of consortiumtype grant. Just, here is a suitcase full of money for exnazis, what we were going to do was onetoone project. Partner, who was going to identify radicalizing partner ls, we had a from the Muslim Community that was going to mirror our efforts intervention d through social media using this echnology, it was 50 going to go towards violent far right and 50 was going to go toward isis and al qaedainspired extremism. Greatest, one of the greatest criticisms of ountering violent extremism, how do we know if any of this stuff works. E also had in the grant proposal a former dhs status scientist who was going to metrics for success and evaluate our program to see if it would work. Methodology we were going to be using had been tested on a before. Cale successfully so im still bewildering as to why they pulled the funding. We were told they reevaluated all of the grants under new ours didnt quite meet it. We are also the only group in it focuses on bottom far right and i know there are many great who fought and risked their careers to who we were in what woo doing and knew the value of it, that cames a decision from above them and it is important to understand that, know, prior to 2015, post9 11, twice as many people right en murdered by far and white supremacist than isis individuals on american soil. So the threat is there. Real. Nd obama had introduced the communityled counter violent Xtreme Program as soon as the program under which we had applied in the middle of last grant. Nd received a it really came from a place this, we work ed nd advise dhs, f. B. I. , policy makers that kind of thing, we are not in intelligence gathering information, but we cooperation, trying to solve the same problem and what years ago o hear two was, we cant arrest our way out of this situation. Alone, while t its a critical part of terrorist attacks from happening, happening, it is way to get things done and we need to engage from in the communities which these extremists are additional to as an tool in the conjunction with law enforcement. By the decision to just go back to what the. B. I. And dhs said doesnt work, that is trying to arrest their way out of a situation. Delores, independent line. Caller hi, im just calling to trumpat i think president has given license for these racist groups, they have he has given them a go out and kill people. I fear the next rally, it will happened in what charlottesville. I dont know if you are aware of the fact that president trumps klansman. S a this was in the 1920s, he wore kkk robe. He was arrested and put in jail of his actions in pennsylvania. Ost that is delores in tennessee. Mr. Tony mcaleer. Guest i dont have any effect, i n to that cant really comment on that directly. Hat i can comment on, this is escalation, these pitch battles right involving the far and the White Nationalists have while and ing for a most recently, the latest scalation starts in u. C. Berkeley and number of clashes and confrontations that each ve ve rosity. Nd it moved up to portland, tol portland, all of a inundated ds itself ith Different Actors from across the country for violent confrontation and expanded and charlottesville. This is not about charlottesville, it hasnt come ut of the community of charlottesville or the community of virginia, per setis much than the statue. It has been the focal point chosen from outside of that be the next line in it saddens me of Heather Heyer happened and those two officers Helicopter Crash and all those people were lar ed in the vehicle assault on the crowd, but it surprise me. Im not surprised by the murder i said er because like this, ideology always ends up in generation after generation, decade after decade. Host palmer, texas, independent shawn, youre next. Caller yes. 33 outwanted to say that of the 50 governorships here in the tate, as well as 33 of state legislators are all controls the house, the senate and the executive. That, they have a much larger presence on the radio and all right havehe apathy ranced with the or ambiguity, especially now by our president , and what concerns this is the he ent with the label that gave the well, the group that supposedly with protesting peacefully, he labeled them with the term all left. It almost seems to me now that apathy, that the im a little bit fearful hat the out right may become more enthralled with the idea that now they have a target, target. E a name for the do you think that has any impact on this . And shawn, well leave it there and let our guest respond. Having been in my ime involved in this and involved in these exact similar type street confrontations with our ideology, o almost defensive advantage that nationalists have. All they have to do is part them violence will come to them. That is guaranteed. They can then play the narrative of the victim. They want the violence more than anyone else, make no mistake it. Ut and the two arent equal. Electronicallyichallenge is whe violinen these people violinently, we feed into the narrative they are trying to build. It hasnt made them shrink, it makes them grow. To confront and hey, this eds to say is wrong and we need to confront violence, i mean. I think back to the civil rights how much Martin Luther king was able to the practice of nonviolence and what i see and of or organization is based in chicago and we operate but i liveed states, just across the border in get to r, canada, so i observe things a little differently because i cant be nvolved in the political process. And what frightens me as sort of slightly outside observer, there is no middle ground anymore. Made Martin Luther king successful and the change he to capture the middle one. Increasingly is divided and polarized two sides dehumanizing each other. And they each have their own echo chamber of dehumanization. As long as we are willing to another human being, we can never truly have peace and it frightens me to the level that this is ramping up and amplifying. Get how do you then someone who is involved in the groups to deradicalize and how do so . Guest you know, for me, it birth of my the daughter. I was so disconnected and it was i put on. It was a mask i wore as to who i and to make myself look bigger, tougher, scarier than i was. Underneath it, i was afraid. Completely disconnect friday my heart and humanity and operating totally my ego. Head and and when my daughter was born, i delivery eing in the room and holding her for the irst time and she had this little scrunchy sdpas eyes open face is the first face will take. I was no longer making decisions for myself, i was complete narc cyst. Was a complete attention whore and i did whatever i could to myself more attention and i didnt care who i hurt in the process. Ut now i had another human being that was affected by the decisions i was making and i had months later, between the two of them, i began making decisions with someone else myself in mind. The beautiful thing about capacity for eir love and compassion and it is safe to love a child. To let my to start guard down and to open up and things and to feel feel connection, i felt completely disconnected from and everyone and the beautiful thing about compassion what my children did with me is when were compassionate with being, we holdup a mirror and allow them to see reflection of humanity reflected back at them through ur acts of compassion and helping people reconnect to humanity and to remember that, werent born that way and for whatever reason, they have from their heart because it is too painful. Compassion, we can help them recognize their humanity. When they recognize and keblth humanity again, like the case for me, then i was and to begin to connect to relate to the humanity and other people. Because before that, i didnt racesher people and other as humans, they were ledger entries to be moved around, they value in my mind because i didnt have any value in my mind. And that compassion piece, my mother, who never gave up on me, she was abhorred by the activities i was involved that id the philosophies a man who ran was some personal development workshops. To those, about eight years after i had left the movement, but i still carried a ideology, even though i was no longer involved. To riend who introduced me him gave me a Gift Certificate for a counseling session and i found myself for the first time counseling therapy session. Id always carried deep shame history and my story and i didnt share it with anyone because i was ashamed and that it would cost me relationships because it has, so. Rightly i was telling them my history and the violence and the groups involved with. He started smiling at me and i this, the last y thing i was expecting in this therapy session. I asked him, i so funny, he looks at me and smiles and goes, you jewish, right . That was a profound moment. Here was this jewish man who me, wanted to help me heal, wanted to could see when i couldnt see it when i looked in the mirror. Compassion for e, yet knowing that i had once advocated annihilation of him and his people. Itt was a profound piece and shows up in the stories of fo s forms. Irth of a child, female child anecdotally and feeling compassion from someone we dont deserve it from, particularly from someone we dehumanized in the past. The african of american man, i believe a musician, that goes around and refrains klansmen and has them and over their robes and walk away from the klan, his weapon is compassion. It is not violence. Violence doesnt work. Violence is going to entrench it, its going to justify the return of violence. Operate as human beings from one of two places, fear or love. He hardest thing in the world is to have compassion for someone who has no compassion and need it most. Robert jones talks about his book the end of White Christian america. Brady was on the future of the north American Free trade agreement. Be sure to watch washington journal live at 7 00 this morning. Join the discussion. Cspan has been on the road meeting with winners of this years documentary competition. At laramie high school, gathering with School Officials to assess her first place prize of 3000 for her documentary of wyomings dependence on fossil fuels. , golden vieworado Mission Statement<\/a> of life after hate is to help individuals and communities to a place of compassion and forgiveness for themselves and for all people. Numbers will be on the screen if you want to ask questions about the group and experience. You define several reason yes people end up in the groups. Ow did you end up with the white aryan resistance . Guest im involved with a groups before that, but if i go right back to the beginning and look at my childhood, i was there bright, sensitive, little mischief us, defiant kind of kid, curious and open to the world. House where it wasnt safe to be emotionally sensitive. In on my i walked father with another woman. It was like, bang, god fell off pedestal. Im sure a number of viewers can relate to that. And angry,y confused felt betrayed by the Authority Figure<\/a> necessary my life. A straight a student in grade five at age of 10 to a at grade six and age of 11. I didnt come from an family, it was a middleclass doctors family. Psychiatrist, im not sure if that was the issue. They got together with my school an allboys catholic school. Point that at that they were going to try to beat the grade intoes me. If i didnt 11, get a or b on major tests and beaten and i was hit on the rear end with a yardstick. Elton from listening to john and queen to clash and sex pistols and got into the punk extremely angry and the music reflected that. I found myself involved in member of ene and a the first time i met skin head necessary vancouver, i met them england, standing outside a punk rock show, i was martins, iair of doc came back from england. Rob my heads wanted to boots. And those guys, my feet size those guys ended up becoming my friend. Strategy g survival befriend the bully, become the bully and i sought safety at the the hurricane. In order to have their protection, i had to have their respect. Me to have their respect, i had to commit the ame violence that they did and violence was something new to me. T was also something that was thrilling and exciting. I got a sense of protection, a notorie ty, er and the things i was short of and ack nothing my life at the time. I found filled by this skinheads movement. A place, the music seen gave me permission and framework to be violent and dehumanize others. Learn more about your story as we go on. Get callers to ask you questions. Mississippi, independent line, you are on with tony mcaleer of the group life after hate. Go ahead. Caller i think the hate groups ive the way were supposed like were living and if they dont, put them in jail. That . Nt we do host okay. That . Ad, anything from guest yeah, well, i think world, oming into this they are not born hateful and violent. Somewhere along the way, something diverts them from a and i think we need to recognize that the is of of the groups, make no mistake about it, if left unchecked it ends up in the think we , murder, i saw that at charlottesville. Separate, we t to dont accept the violence, dont ideology, but there is a human being there. The way we work with people to ring them back, we have compassion, we hold them accountable for any crimes committed. They dont get a free pass, they still a human being and the most powerful thing we can do is have compassion. The hardest things we can do as a fair and just ociety, have compassion for someone who has no compassion, hey are the ones that need it most. Host from pennsylvania, derby, hello. Morning, ello, good thank you for taking my call. Commend you for having the courage to express yourself and try to help understand what is going on. Question is this. Racism is like an a man is seeking a drink, one drink is not enough and two more. Can you address that . Yeah. My own personal life, i didnt 100 overnight, it was an incremental increase and i got was really a framework to justify the anger feeling. Nce i was there is an old expression, what transmit. Transform, we that made sense to me and gave i spent 15 years trying o make myself better by changing the world outside me. What i realize now is that if i hange the world inside me, i have more impact in the world than i ever could have imagined. Level to lieve the which we dehumanize other human eings is internally disconnected and dehumanized we are. E take false path to try to correct that internal turmoil, we get like a quick sugar fix, last long, we need more and more. I think your caller is right. Tony mcaleer, you spoke about people who get part of the organizations they ltimately lead to act of violence, how far did that go for you . Absolutely beatings, for sure. Mostly against people that were opposed to us. Charlottesville riots. The ideology went far deeper that and we stockpiled ssault weapons, stockpiled ammunition, we were waiting for fullarmed and conflict to break out and, you now, the rhetoric you see on t. V. , where they talk about this is just about pride and it is just about nationalism and stuff that, ive ive been in the onservations behind the chat rooms and behind closed doors and read the turner diaries, we day of the rope, why just like isis, our enemies hanged from lamp posts. Thirst s capacity and a for violence that exists in the violent far right that is i think Society Needs<\/a> to understand that and we like to think we have the moral that were to think so different from isis, but this ideology leads to the exact same place. Host republican line. Youngstown, ohio, steven, go ahead. The r yes, i think president gave a very good on anation of his position the situation and it seems like people just manifest their own problems all the time and done. Ng is ever getting the president wants to do all this stuff for everyone and they ive him a hard time all the time. And this starts up, it starts up, whatever. I think it was very good. I think hes a very good resident, one of the best president s they had so far and that is about all i can think of other things,e is but thank you very much for your mcaleer, you are from vancouver, your perspective n how the white house handled in situation in charlottesville and the issue of White Nationalist<\/a> groups and those related to that . As a ll, i think 01c3, we have to be careful as to what we say. I think the challenge is if we make the president the focal from all of this, then i hink people can offload their responsibility. This underlying issue, this disease in society, was here long before the president. T will be here during his presidency and it will be here fter his presidency, if we focus on making it above the resident, then i think we really limit the options that we table. The this needs to be corrected at a much deeper level, it needs to corrected in more societal oneonone level. Change, not needs to from the top down, but from the bottom up. Need to look ings at every action and every moment of everyday and see how we can people to be better. As human beings, we operate from of two places. One is love and one is fear. And the only way were going to overcome the division in the society is if we all come together and operate from that love. Of fear doesnt help and i think we need to take responsibility for actions, our word, how human t treat other beings, if we put it on one man, t is too much and were not going to get what we need done. Host one more question related that. Your organization was set to receive a grant from our government at the end of the administration, that grant was rescinded by this administration, could you give context, why you would receive the grant and why you now . Not getting it guest so contrary to what may there in the media, the grant was 400,000. The primary applicant of consortiumtype grant. Just, here is a suitcase full of money for exnazis, what we were going to do was onetoone project. Partner, who was going to identify radicalizing partner ls, we had a from the Muslim Community<\/a> that was going to mirror our efforts intervention d through social media using this echnology, it was 50 going to go towards violent far right and 50 was going to go toward isis and al qaedainspired extremism. Greatest, one of the greatest criticisms of ountering violent extremism, how do we know if any of this stuff works. E also had in the grant proposal a former dhs status scientist who was going to metrics for success and evaluate our program to see if it would work. Methodology we were going to be using had been tested on a before. Cale successfully so im still bewildering as to why they pulled the funding. We were told they reevaluated all of the grants under new ours didnt quite meet it. We are also the only group in it focuses on bottom far right and i know there are many great who fought and risked their careers to who we were in what woo doing and knew the value of it, that cames a decision from above them and it is important to understand that, know, prior to 2015, post9 11, twice as many people right en murdered by far and white supremacist than isis individuals on american soil. So the threat is there. Real. Nd obama had introduced the communityled counter violent Xtreme Program<\/a> as soon as the program under which we had applied in the middle of last grant. Nd received a it really came from a place this, we work ed nd advise dhs, f. B. I. , policy makers that kind of thing, we are not in intelligence gathering information, but we cooperation, trying to solve the same problem and what years ago o hear two was, we cant arrest our way out of this situation. Alone, while t its a critical part of terrorist attacks from happening, happening, it is way to get things done and we need to engage from in the communities which these extremists are additional to as an tool in the conjunction with law enforcement. By the decision to just go back to what the. B. I. And dhs said doesnt work, that is trying to arrest their way out of a situation. Delores, independent line. Caller hi, im just calling to trumpat i think president has given license for these racist groups, they have he has given them a go out and kill people. I fear the next rally, it will happened in what charlottesville. I dont know if you are aware of the fact that president trumps klansman. S a this was in the 1920s, he wore kkk robe. He was arrested and put in jail of his actions in pennsylvania. Ost that is delores in tennessee. Mr. Tony mcaleer. Guest i dont have any effect, i n to that cant really comment on that directly. Hat i can comment on, this is escalation, these pitch battles right involving the far and the White Nationalist<\/a>s have while and ing for a most recently, the latest scalation starts in u. C. Berkeley and number of clashes and confrontations that each ve ve rosity. Nd it moved up to portland, tol portland, all of a inundated ds itself ith Different Actors<\/a> from across the country for violent confrontation and expanded and charlottesville. This is not about charlottesville, it hasnt come ut of the community of charlottesville or the community of virginia, per setis much than the statue. It has been the focal point chosen from outside of that be the next line in it saddens me of Heather Heyer<\/a> happened and those two officers Helicopter Crash<\/a> and all those people were lar ed in the vehicle assault on the crowd, but it surprise me. Im not surprised by the murder i said er because like this, ideology always ends up in generation after generation, decade after decade. Host palmer, texas, independent shawn, youre next. Caller yes. 33 outwanted to say that of the 50 governorships here in the tate, as well as 33 of state legislators are all controls the house, the senate and the executive. That, they have a much larger presence on the radio and all right havehe apathy ranced with the or ambiguity, especially now by our president , and what concerns this is the he ent with the label that gave the well, the group that supposedly with protesting peacefully, he labeled them with the term all left. It almost seems to me now that apathy, that the im a little bit fearful hat the out right may become more enthralled with the idea that now they have a target, target. E a name for the do you think that has any impact on this . And shawn, well leave it there and let our guest respond. Having been in my ime involved in this and involved in these exact similar type street confrontations with our ideology, o almost defensive advantage that nationalists have. All they have to do is part them violence will come to them. That is guaranteed. They can then play the narrative of the victim. They want the violence more than anyone else, make no mistake it. Ut and the two arent equal. Electronicallyichallenge is whe violinen these people violinently, we feed into the narrative they are trying to build. It hasnt made them shrink, it makes them grow. To confront and hey, this eds to say is wrong and we need to confront violence, i mean. I think back to the civil rights how much Martin Luther<\/a> king was able to the practice of nonviolence and what i see and of or organization is based in chicago and we operate but i liveed states, just across the border in get to r, canada, so i observe things a little differently because i cant be nvolved in the political process. And what frightens me as sort of slightly outside observer, there is no middle ground anymore. Made Martin Luther<\/a> king successful and the change he to capture the middle one. Increasingly is divided and polarized two sides dehumanizing each other. And they each have their own echo chamber of dehumanization. As long as we are willing to another human being, we can never truly have peace and it frightens me to the level that this is ramping up and amplifying. Get how do you then someone who is involved in the groups to deradicalize and how do so . Guest you know, for me, it birth of my the daughter. I was so disconnected and it was i put on. It was a mask i wore as to who i and to make myself look bigger, tougher, scarier than i was. Underneath it, i was afraid. Completely disconnect friday my heart and humanity and operating totally my ego. Head and and when my daughter was born, i delivery eing in the room and holding her for the irst time and she had this little scrunchy sdpas eyes open face is the first face will take. I was no longer making decisions for myself, i was complete narc cyst. Was a complete attention whore and i did whatever i could to myself more attention and i didnt care who i hurt in the process. Ut now i had another human being that was affected by the decisions i was making and i had months later, between the two of them, i began making decisions with someone else myself in mind. The beautiful thing about capacity for eir love and compassion and it is safe to love a child. To let my to start guard down and to open up and things and to feel feel connection, i felt completely disconnected from and everyone and the beautiful thing about compassion what my children did with me is when were compassionate with being, we holdup a mirror and allow them to see reflection of humanity reflected back at them through ur acts of compassion and helping people reconnect to humanity and to remember that, werent born that way and for whatever reason, they have from their heart because it is too painful. Compassion, we can help them recognize their humanity. When they recognize and keblth humanity again, like the case for me, then i was and to begin to connect to relate to the humanity and other people. Because before that, i didnt racesher people and other as humans, they were ledger entries to be moved around, they value in my mind because i didnt have any value in my mind. And that compassion piece, my mother, who never gave up on me, she was abhorred by the activities i was involved that id the philosophies a man who ran was some personal development workshops. To those, about eight years after i had left the movement, but i still carried a ideology, even though i was no longer involved. To riend who introduced me him gave me a Gift Certificate<\/a> for a counseling session and i found myself for the first time counseling therapy session. Id always carried deep shame history and my story and i didnt share it with anyone because i was ashamed and that it would cost me relationships because it has, so. Rightly i was telling them my history and the violence and the groups involved with. He started smiling at me and i this, the last y thing i was expecting in this therapy session. I asked him, i so funny, he looks at me and smiles and goes, you jewish, right . That was a profound moment. Here was this jewish man who me, wanted to help me heal, wanted to could see when i couldnt see it when i looked in the mirror. Compassion for e, yet knowing that i had once advocated annihilation of him and his people. Itt was a profound piece and shows up in the stories of fo s forms. Irth of a child, female child anecdotally and feeling compassion from someone we dont deserve it from, particularly from someone we dehumanized in the past. The african of american man, i believe a musician, that goes around and refrains klansmen and has them and over their robes and walk away from the klan, his weapon is compassion. It is not violence. Violence doesnt work. Violence is going to entrench it, its going to justify the return of violence. Operate as human beings from one of two places, fear or love. He hardest thing in the world is to have compassion for someone who has no compassion and need it most. Robert jones talks about his book the end of White Christian<\/a> america. Brady was on the future of the north American Free<\/a> trade agreement. Be sure to watch washington journal live at 7 00 this morning. Join the discussion. Cspan has been on the road meeting with winners of this years documentary competition. At laramie high school, gathering with School Officials<\/a> to assess her first place prize of 3000 for her documentary of wyomings dependence on fossil fuels. , golden vieworado Classical Academy<\/a> accepted second by second 1500 for his documentary on cyber security. Also in denver the thirdplace for their750 went document tree about digital theft and hacking. Documentary about digital theft and hacking. Won the thirdplace prize at 750 for their document three on racial inequality in america. Dakota, calebouth miller and Patrick Henry<\/a> middle School Received<\/a> a thirdplace prize of 750 for his documentary on the national debt. One Honorable Mention<\/a> aiden on marijuana. A number of students one Honorable Mention<\/a> and 250 per group. A document or a on the national debt. A documentary on terrorism. Honorable mentions for their documentary on global warning warming. Thank you for taking part in the 20 17th documentary competition. To watch any of the videos go to studentcam. Org. 2018 starts with the theme of the constitution and you. 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