The somebody really need 33 rounds of magazines . I dont think so. Do have relationships with the nra in which you could bridge that a little bit . We have tried. Im spoken with some of the leadership. The things that the nra does that is very important that they do a good job with regard to gun safety. The organization we feel has changed over the last several years. In which direction . Into a direction that is to try to support the gun manufacturers as much as possible. , are you hopeful about the future on gun policy . , are you hopeful about it . Yes, hopeful. It has been a long, hard road. The future hopeful. Optimistic . Optimistic. Optimistic. It will be a long road, i think. Haul, but a long im optimistic. Want years from folks who common sense legislation passed without a lot of hard work. I know you are both working on a book. What is the message you want to convey . Enough is enough. Enough is enough. That is exactly what gabby said. [applause] do we really want to live in a country where after the death of 20 kindergartners and first , the National Response is nothing . Nothing. We could do a lot better than nothing. Incidents try to stop of Mass Shootings that occur at a pretty regular rate. We need to work on that aspect of it. At the same time, there are. Bout 3035 murders a daily toll of gun violence. Not only the deaths, but the costs. Theres a lot to be done there. This onbout we end enough is enough . Enough is enough. Thank you to you both. [applause] ladies and gentlemen, please stay in your seats for a moment. [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] Business Owners and policymakers gathered to discuss the future of the Legal Cannabis industry good Recreational Marijuana has been legal for about 18 months with Washington State to be the next to enter the industry. You can watch the discussion saturday at noon eastern on cspan. You can keep in touch with Current Events from the Nations Capital using any phone, anytime we cspan radio. 2026268888. Every day listen to a recap of the events. You can hear audio of the Public Affairs programming beginning sunday at noon eastern. Cspan radio on audio now. Long our phone charges may apply. Longdistance phone charges may apply. Graduates from North Carolina recently hosted its 20th annual dinner that focused on the issue of gun rights here at among the speakers were stand around law experts and gun owners of america executives. We have also heard from a young widow who held tennessee and ohio helped tennessee and ohio change their concealed weapons laws after her husband was murdered by a stalker in a nashville restaurant. This is an hour and a half. Our first speaker tonight is someone i had conversed with and who was it instrumental in helping pass she worked in a nightclub in tennessee when a stock or rogan ker and killedstal her husband. At that point in time and like North Carolina recently, she was prohibited from sharing her concealed handgun within an arrest on the served alcohol. I met her at the Second Amendment march a number of years ago and determined that this was the person that we needed to have in North Carolina. She has become a national advocate for concealed handgun laws in general. [applause] thank you so much. Me here toor having speak with you about the importance of our Second Amendment. ,s a victim of a Violent Crime my name is nikki. Im from nashville, tennessee. Hasbeen,09, my benjamin, was shot six times right in front of myself. By a man who had been stalking me right in the middle of a restaurant. This restaurant served alcohol. It was a restaurant where my husband and i ran our mobile karaoke business. We had an agreement with the Restaurant Owner to run they karaoke every thursday night. I met a man that suddenly showed nowheree scene out of and at first he seemed halfway normal. Oughtut he was a we th he was a tourist. He started coming in more often for karaoke night. Eventually i realized theres something not right with him. He had never threatened me. There is never straining order here and we all never straining orders is simply a piece of paper. I ended up having to block them from ice social network, which is how we would advertise our business. He was sending me inappropriate messages. Look, imell him, happily married and what youre saying to me is inappropriate. He continued to come to my shows. He never threatened me. Then he came to one of my shows at a restaurant where i have never seen him before. Good 35taurant was a minutes away from downtown nashville where he normally came to. I realized this is not just a dedicated karaoke customer. This is not someone with a simple crush on me. This man is stalking me. Benmoment i saw him, i told i dont go comfortable with this man here. I will Ask Management to remove him. Do whatever you need to do. I went to go get management. They confronted him and asked him to leave. 45 outeeded to pull a from under his jacket and shoot ben six times. He actually stood over ben and continue to fire into his body while he was on the floor. Handgun permit holder at the time. Law,se according to state i normally carry a handgun, but had to leave it locked in my bugle. I follow the law. Me did that was stalking not have a permit and was not following the law and murder is a ready legal. Him. Aw did nothing to stop people with evil intentions could care less about the law. It is those of us that are lawabiding that care about the law. Obviously my life has been changed forever. Losing engine into that type of violence. But it is violence. I get tired of hearing people talk about gun violence. Lets talk about violence. Gun, i whene the the murderer. I blame the murderer. I blame the legislators who prevented me from doing what i needed to to protect my husband and i. It is my belief that gun free ores are killing zones criminal protection zones. People that want to do evil can harm or kill knowing that no one there can stop them. Police all heard that are only minutes away. That is true. I do not blame the police. I have a huge amount of respect for Law Enforcement. Even Law Enforcement know that they cannot be anywhere and everywhere at any time. Those officers came on the scene within three minutes of the 911 call, i have been told. They were there in enough time to put up the crime scene tape and take pictures of my hasbeen my hsuusband. I think we all make decisions based on the options that we have. I if ier know if couldve prevented that from half thing. That option was not available to me. The decisions i made were based on the options that i had. After time on the news the shootings occur. The only thing the media will not tell you, the majority if not all of the shootings occur in gun free zones. They are places where evil people know that no one can stop them. They know it. That is why they go there. Highernt to get that body bag zone. They existed. Anyone believes this kind of violence can happen to them. I had my handgun carry permit and went through my training. I try to be prepared. I never looked at it at careless, but prepared. It happened to us. I do not want you to be paranoid. I want you and your family to be prepared here it you never know when evil is going to choose to pay you a visit. Evil can strike anywhere no matter where you are. Will you be preparing to stop that right . Will you be prepared to stop that threat . Stop i worked really hard after bens murder with senator doug jackson in tennessee. He was actually a democrat. Him and the phone with told him everything that had happened. He invited me to the state capital. I told my story. The ended up restaurant a carry restaurant bill. As long as you are not drinking any alcohol. Choose not to go to those places. If you are not going to give me the ability to protect myself and you are not going to protect me either, i have a problem with that. I do not want to give them my money. There are cards that i carry around with me that tell them you are in a gun free zone and it is a false sense of security. Yet the stop and ask yourself who is most likely to follow the silly rules, you know . Someone that wants to harm people is not really care about that sign. It is a false sense of security. They have the restaurant carry law and i submitted my written testimony here. Despite what the media would have you believe and i know you all saw it on the news the cap saying it would they kept saying it would be the wild west. There would be blood running in the streets. They said the same thing in ohio. They said the same thing here. Guess what . It never happened. But it is funny that the media does not want to go back and talk about how very wrong they were. Less than 1 of permit holders ever do anything wrong with the gun. I cant think of any segment of society that is anymore lawabiding. These are not the people who do horrible things. These are the good people out there that want to be able to stop those bad guys from taking innocent life. I do believe we all have the right to protect ourselves. It is our Second Amendment. It is pretty basic. We have the basic human rights of selfdefense. Tell you about our criminal Justice System. It is not a Justice System. It is just a system, [laughter] yeah. [indiscernible] [applause] it took about three years for my husbands murderer to finally stand trial. I will tell you a few things about the case. Searched hisce vehicle, they found two more guns and a baseball bat and a knife. More i thought about those items, i cannot help but think that somehow this man had probably planned on harming me. What i didnt tell you about the hid inside ant and brick wall and i went to get management and ask if they would remove him. Me to stay where i was. Dont let him see you. Let management handle this. That was my option to hide. Some survivors guilt in that. I was one who lived and ben di ed. It is a very serious situation. It could happen to anyone. That judge know number one, it was an insanity defense. The judge dropped it from firstdegree to seconddegree. That man is going to get out of prison. They gave him 23 years. He has served five. I am going to have to deal with this person who took the love of my life away from me. He is a dangerous person. That is what the criminal Justice System has done. 911. Rely on im not saying you shouldnt call 911, but you should be prepared to protect yourself first. Then call 911. It might take a while before they get there. You cannot rely on our criminal Justice System. You cannot rely on the criminal Justice System at all. It will tell you to protect yourself and your family. And about who you are voting for. The first thing i think about is how they feel about my ecig human rights in selfdefense. That tells me Everything Else i need to know. My basic human rights in selfdefense. That tells me Everything Else i need to know. Thank you so much. Our next smeeker i actually met at a Charlotte Law School forum, both of us were panelists. I heard his presentation. It was so compelling that i said, i have to bring this guy back to North Carolina for our presentation at our annual dinner. Andrew is the foremost expert on u. S. Selfdefense law across all 50 states. His expertise has been used by the wall street journal, chicago tribune, npr, numerous other media organizations and by private state and federal agencies. Hes a massachusetts lawyer. Life member of the n. R. A. We all have that problem occasionally. [laughter] and adjunct professor on the law of selfdefense in an academy in new hampshire. He lectures and speaks throughout the country in how to protect yourself in both an tack and legal machine afterwards. Hes a master class idpa competitor, n. R. A. Certified firearms instructor. Holds numerous concealed handgun permits from what i can see here and his book, the law of selfdefense was recently revealed in the n. R. A. s first freedom magazine, which had to say, quote, since most gunners are so law abiding they have no personal experience with the criminal justice process, bronxia gives an overview of the crimes that may be charged in a selfdefense case, including what to expect from an investigative and judicial process in which none of the people who will have been put in control of your fate will understand what it was like at that desperate moment. Andrew is the author of the law of selfdefense and his topic tonight stand your ground, the truth, whole truth and nothing but the truth. I bring you andrew bronka. Hey, folks. Before i start my well, informal comments, i want to say its easy for all of us to fight for our Second Amendment rights to come to think were only fighting feckless politicians, which, of course, we are. But hearing nikki talk its important to remember what were actually fighting is evil, all right. Evil walking the earth among us who want to make us defenseless against our enemies and families defenseless. Remember, thats the true fight were fighting. They are my only serious comments for the evening. Im not a very serious guy. I guess paul mention td butly rip the band aid right off. Im a lawyer. Its true. Its worse than that, im a massachusetts lawyer. A Yankee Yankee in your midst. Very interesting for me calls to come from massachusetts. I have been a member of the gun arted comet tive shooting as young teenager and been engaged in it all of my life. To come from a place like massachusetts where you basically, you dont mention guns like its some kind of forbidden religious faith thats not allowed and to come to such a goodfriendly environment, its like entering kind of a gun Abuse Recovery program. I feel like i should stand up sane, my name is andrew. Im a gun abuser. I love guns. Its true. I love them. I loved them all of my life. For the fun, pleasure they bring me in target shooting and competitive shooting and i love what they can do for me in being able to protect myself and protect my family and, of course, what they mean in the more traditional perspective, of our ability to resist the threat of tyranny. The importance of having the guns in the first place is our possession prevents tyranny from taking root in the first place. We need not have to bear arms against or government, our our government fears us bearing arms against them, right . This is a deterrent effect we want and only this, the only exists if we presieve and protect that right to keep and bear arms. Despite being a massachusetts attorney, i consider myself Second Amendment absoluteous. Which mine all prior restrained gun laws are on their feet unconstitutional. Any mandatory permitting requirements, any f. F. L. Requirements class two, three, four requirements, any excise tax on firearms, anything, any prior restraint on the ability to own ownership small arms, its own constitutional on its face and should be recognized as such fpblet when the day comes, god willing, that the court as ply scrutiny to the thousands of gun laws we have to deal with today, they will fall light white before us. I guess i got serious again, didnt i . Sorry about that. I have to say if you asked me 20 years ago, 20 years ago, 20 years ago i got my concealed carry permit, started carrying pistol the first time. In massachusetts of all places. If you would have told me that, 20 years later, i would be an opponent with folks like lot lott and larry pratt, beside me, waiting to speak, i would have laughed. Ridiculous notion. So fun to be here with them, giants of the gun rights movement. These are the people who wrote the books i read 20 years ago. That motivated me even in massachusetts to become an activist in the gun rights community. This average generation stands on the shoulders of giants who came before them and these guys are it. We have to applaud them. [applause] i think both of them including help establish and balance our Major Organization among the first to say they can lead but nothing happens without you guys, without all of you and even Little People like me, massachusetts attorneys. But each of that only has one vote. They can motivate but they have to be able to motivate people who are willing to do the hard work that needs to be done to make the legislatures pass the laws they need to pass in order for our gun rights to be protected. Can i ask, who is the gentleman running for the Appellate Court . An i ask you to stand up, sir . I want to make point that may not be clear to many of you, we work hard to pass legislation favorable to gun owners but its important to recognize legislative acts are just the desires of the legislature, where the rubber meets the road, where the effect of that legislation takes place is in he courts. We do not elect people in those positions to rule on those laws the way we need them to. So make sure you vote for them in these elections. [applause] talk about stand your ground. Im 45 minutes past my time. I will keep it as succinct as possible. Theres a lot of misinformation about stand your ground. The phrase has become a boogie man of the gun control activist. What we are really seeing here, by the way, is opening of a new front against our gun rights. They effectively still need loss in the air term gun control movement. Of course, we can never give up. We always have to fight. Kind of like a cancer. The moment you take your eye off them, they come back. But they decided theyre not gaining much ground there so they turn add way from pa turned away our ability to own, possess and carry gun but use guns in selfdefense. Now theyre becoming less gun controlist in the nearterm sense and more selfdefense controlists. We try to limit the places we could carry the gun that couldnt work. You can carry it so proper, but if you ever use it, were going to destroy you economically. Destro