Tom i want to point out, this is alex arriving. He is trying to win that seat. He could win it easily. What can you make of what is happening in scotland and what it means for the u. K. As a whole . Im a unionist, so it is worrying. Gordon brown hasnt got to bear responsibility for this. Gordon brown was a to factor leader of the labour party in scotland for all those years. Prime minister and chance and he has to bear report on those responsible is. And he has to show responsibly for whipping up antienglish feeling of scotland, for no election purposes or advantages. If you and that is what the labour party is doing now. And i cannot help having a tiny laugh. Tom on the question of u. K. , the election, one thing you could say is that you are in a difficult position. On one hand, you wanted to fight on behalf of the National Party but on the other had if you did with the liberal democrats did for many years, hyper concentrate on a number of seats and vote for us here, you might have done better, might you not . Im arguing that we have done well. We will get at least 3 million votes, possibly over 4 million. We could be the Third Largest party, we have had an amazing campaign. People dont appreciate how little resources we have. In comparison with major parties. And in fact, we have done Amazing Things on a shoestring. And we have said, we ran a successful National Campaign, despite the fears of bbc audiences and we also have the best manifesto, technically written, the best put together. And actually, these results are astonishing. At the first result that came out, the same candidate that came in six in the 2010 election came in second in this election. We have established ourselves as a challenger to the labour party in the north and other parts of the country. Tom thank you very much. We are looking at and there may not be dramatic movements. Nina has a guest to talk to about scotland. Nina i am back with elizabeth from facebook, in terms of the campaign, has been about scotland. Talk me through this map so we can see clearly what you see. What we are looking at is the conversation around the election during the campaign. You can see scotland really is dominating. This trend started last year with the Scottish Referendum the most talked about topic in the u. K. On facebook. The scots have defined what excellence in campaigning is, authenticity. This afternoon was doing her final video, a plea to voters to get out and vote. We saw 2. 5 million mentions around the snp conversations. They know how to campaign and they are doing it well on facebook. Nina ok, i have jack a digital expert who has worked on different campaigns. I am rejoined by david and from the think tank british future. Thank you all for being here. Facebook we talked about scotland nailing it. Goes back to messaging. Snp understands that you have to deliver the right message through the right medium. If they have done a great job of segmenting messages and putting out messages via twitter facebook, snapshot. The kind of messages and they are the kind that actually are positive and resonate well with a lot of people in scotland. And think about the other parties, they have done well. Liz is right, but they have a lot of catching up to do. Nina the point there about the Scottish Referendum, will read where we naive . We thought it would move on, it didnt move on. Right they tried to draw a rhetorical audience underscore land in a did not work out that way. Partly because resigned so swiftly. And the stories, should they have stayed with snp, there could have been a successor. Their strategy since of the referendum has been traditional campaigning. Nina we dont know if they have those 50 19th, but do you think that they will work with the snp or if voters have voted that way to break up the union . Lots going on. It is true that snp voters are likely to support independence, that has not always in the case. There has been a chunk of people who liked snp as a government but dont want independence, but there is a closer correlation now. And sturgeon is it so popular. Nina an Incredible Campaign by her. Do you think that the union is now under threat again . It is certainly in question but she has a challenging job over the next few years. And she has incredible mobilization, not just online but offline. She is cautious, i think about what this all means. Scotland, they have over 50 not independent, but close to 41 who want independence. This is a four party system, you could win all of the seats. If she has opinion polls with 67 wanting to be independence, she would be calling. But there is a lot of pressure. If you have the vote and you dont do it, it might never return. Nina benefits very briefly, and it pits english against the scots. It will be interesting if David Cameron comes back as Prime Minister. Can he make an offer to scotland , can you now put it back together. Nina as soon as results come through north of the border, we will tell more about scotland. Tom justice say that we are calling south as unp events in Northern Island will not be without competitions. Lets go to martin in ireland scotland. It is adjusted that the snp was being cautious, is there mood changing . It probably is. We are hearing whispers from around the country. Lets use edinburgh as an illustration, because it is a good one. In 2010, 4 of the five edinburgh seats were won by the labour party. The snp came in fourth. Now it looks like it will be a clean sweep. One is touch and go, but they think they won the rest. And we are hearing big names. Im joined by alex massie, and editor of the spectator. Alex, people have been watching the exit poll. We are going to need some new metaphors for scotland, earthquake snp hurricane, it is all of these things. It is a complete disaster for the Scottish Labour Party. And of course, a complete annihilation of the liberal democrats here. There is no simple answer how did this happen . It is remarkable, the referendum changed the parameters of politics here. If you voted yes in september, the question is the most dominant one today. If you voted yes, why would you vote for a union in may . If you voted no in september why would you vote for the snp . But they are getting 95 of those who voted yes. While as the Union Coalition is split. And it looks as though most of those efforts are going to be insufficient to hold the snp advance. This is an earth shattering event. I think this will be remembered. Ill ask you, people are wondering, could this lead to another referendum . It will increase that idea, maybe for next years Scottish Parliament terry elections, they could hold a referendum as soon as possible. 80,000 new members since the referendum, it helps explain why this has happened. They have captured the mood in scotland and have promised to stand up for scotland. It will be quite difficult to for her to keep a lid on expectation. At the same time, the quote the ball is not in her court. It is up to whoever is Prime Minister in westminster to make offers or to say, look at this is what we will do in terms of constitution. Alex, thank you very much. Interesting results coming from scotland. A psalm in the next 1520 minutes. In the meantime, back to you. Tom martin, thank you. We are joined by alex, the former snp leader. These are early results tonight but it looks like an incredible night for your party. I dont think tom i dont think he can hear us. Lets go back to him as soon as we can. Maybe i can bring in collin and jane. Interesting listening to martin, this is staggering what is happening. The number of anonymous majorities we will see overturned. Colin our colleagues suggest that the snp might have swept glasgow. As you recall, the glasgow north east, that was the safest of places. Tom he might be the only survivor. Colin if that suggestion is true, therell be no Labour Party Mps in scotland, as it looks. Tom i think we are going to go to alex now. Good evening. Good evening. Tom you have had achievements in your career, but this looks like an incredible night for you. Yes a confidence in scotland. The results are still too calm, but all the reports we are getting across the country as we are seeing this on a gigantic scale, there is a tide flowing for snp. Tom what others have suggested is that the exit polls are beginning to look like it probably is thereabouts, across the u, and in scotland, from the results, we are beginning to see a suggestion that there is a reasonable chance that David Cameron will be Prime Minister while your party has swept scotland. If that proves to be the case where does that leave the u. K. . We have in scotland, and in important speech made this week, in terms of the government of the u. K. , the government does not have the reach, there could be problems of legitimacy. If that comes about, cameron would have a difficult problem. No westminster government could possibly ignore what is happening in scotland this evening. Listen, we have not had a single result from that one, just a handful from england. We should probably let the peoples be counted before we speculate. Tom is it not, a lot of people would think it is inevitable that you would put an independence referendum back on the ballot for 2016. Im asked that question a lot, so i talk about the luxury now and say, that is something for Nicola Sturgeon tom suppose David Cameron came and said, all right, i hear it. What about full fiscal economy baton ami, we will give baton ami autonomy, what would you say to that . We will try to see if there is a progressive alternative to the conservative party, that is what the mps will do and we will follow through on that. It lets a with the rest of it gives us at the end of the evening before we decide that that is possible. Nicola sturgeon will spell things out very clearly. Tom are you surprised in any way of this result and what do you think is driving it . A lot of people thought after the referendum, that was settled for a generation, but what seems to have happened is the support for your party has grown since then, almost as if it was a wagon moving forward. If you study my speeches from september, i displayed that with the situation is full of opportunity, i did that because cameron had not implemented or said he would honor the point of view that was the promises made it to scotland. Of course it caused a normal suspense and also opened a political door of opportunity for the snp, because it was a demonstration of bad faith. Some of what is happening is a result of the clumsy and arrogant manner that the Prime Minister had after the day of the referendum. I think it is more to do with a positive vision being articulated by sturgeon and the performances she has produced during the Election Campaign. And we moved into a position of dominance quickly after the referendum, by last october, but to carry that through as it seems, through the Election Campaign, for the election, it is extraordinary. Tom thank you very much. We are expecting the first results from scotland, fairly shortly. We will go there as soon as we have it. We have spoken this evening of course about scotland, the overline the overall picture and with the chance of you into in downing street, that could be the marginal. Lets summarize that. Lets have a check in on this. It is filling out bit by bit. Results are coming in. He can see this in focus, the labour party targets on the left side of the dividing line. The closer they are to the dividing line, the easier they are for the party to gain. It look at this labour party board. Three blue blocks you can see have been marked out. We will take you to the labour party area. A 2 swing. But this has stayed with the conservatives. We have all been reading the articles about which exceeds to look out for. This one was almost kicked out, they need to be getting that back in their hold. It was held by the labour party until 2010, they wanted it back. Other seats around it, like north, lymington as well, all in the same patch. The conservatives have held on. Look at the other seats in that area. This is the target was. This gives the tories a reason to feel confident, Ben Thomas Amber rod and hastings, so much ever campaigning to see hastings. And if we take this further down , the labour Party Hunting grounds, we were looking at jane allison. It not only has she held it, the conservatives vote has increased 2 swing from labour party to conservatives, that is a remarkable moment this early in the night. If you talk with collin and jane on that, you are talking about london being an interesting spot that is a fascinating detail. This movement between labour party and the conservatives. Colin you are right. 37th on the labour party target list, the see that they needed to win if they wanted to have the Largest Party. I think they can wave goodbye to that. The swing that we have from the limited number results that we have, they suggest that perhaps it could be a. 5 swing, which would give them about 910 gains from the conservatives. That would have to be chopped off, all those seeds losing to the snp in scotland. It looks as if labour party will do worse this year. And at the future we were just chewing over a few minutes ago. Jane the fact that those seat on the conservative side of the board come and live in. We will have a look at those. These are very easy to pick out. This brings up a case in point. They would be devastated to lose beastly eastly. We are talking about which way you can guess that will fall. Cheadle eastbourne, jeremy brown obviously heading out stepping down from massey. Even the seat around london that we were talking about there are all sorts of areas that have come into play much further down the conservative target list. We are spotting a couple of them , kingston serving 10. The conservatives taking that counsel so long held by. It has become much more colin if you talk about the start of the evening, maybe kingston, a lot of these seats at the top. I dont know whether or not you want to talk about how realistic these targets are. Tom if you said yesterday these were under threat, we would be shocked. Colin you have martin hall who has in their a long time, this is a well known local liberal democrat that has maintained a degree of presence on the local councils, which should not be dismissed in the circumstances. People thought they would hold on. All the results we have had so far, certainly from the exit poll and as i mentioned earlier the other polls, the suggested that they would do poorly throughout the southwest. We expect some of that to turn blue. Tom we will come back to this. We have simon ready to talk to us. Simon, you cannot imagine that this night was going to begin potentially to pan out in this way . The elections are sovereign we knew they would be difficult for us. We have always opposed, and done well in wrestling the country then people who dont like austerity, i when i predict the outcome yet. We have had one exit full poll. We have not had a single seat having its result declared, so im hoping that we have colleagues that will come through. In any event, we took the decision, we thought it was the right decision in the National Interest. The economy is growing better than any economy in europe. We have been able to lift taxes so that millions of millions of people dont pay tax and have tax reductions. All those things. Tom i know we dont have the results, but if you look at the results directly related to you, in terms of seats but the results we have, the liberal democrat vote is collapsing. Thats because we knew that we had to target our resources in the places we held seats and the few places we thought we could take, that has not been secret. Therefore, the results in the places we have heard about so far are not in that category and of course therefore, we did not put the resources there, to sweep us into places and other parts of the country where we do not have a base. Lets wait and see what happens. You will see an entirely different picture, there will be thousands of votes casted for liberal democrats and i hope that we will have a significant presence in the government. It does not look like the tories won the general election. It is not look as if they have had a satisfactory result. Nobody looks as if they are the great winter overnight. In scotland, things look different. But we have another 12 hours before we have a clear picture i know that we have fought a good fight. We have put the elections first. We have a good case to put. At the end of five years in government, the country has been left a much stronger place man when we went in. Tom if you and you personally consent i getting back to this stage . Im going as soon as i am with this interview and another interview. We dont expect clear results for another couple of hours. I have been under attack from the labour party, every single general election since we first one, sometimes the media have reported that we lost, we worked do. I hope that we have one, it was a huge battle. I know it will be close. Tom if you do end up having a bad night, do you think it is conceivable that you would enter into any arrangement with the conservatives . Thats a discussion we have not begun to have. We have not talked to any major parties. I think the general view would be in the country, having had the coalition with a stable government for five years, that was better to have a coalition than before. It looks as if that would only be possible with the conservatives. We have a democratic process that judges these things. Certainly, we do not believe any less in a coalition or any less in taking responsibility now the country will benefit from having a stable government for the next five years. Without it, the economy cannot have secured a development that i know my constituents want. Tom that is an interesting take. Thank you for talking with us. We will go straight to tim, the former president of the liberal democrats. I think it is sad to say, you probably cannot hear what simon was saying there, but he was telling that he went on to say he was still a believer in coalition, do you believe it is credible that if you end up with these results predicted that you could go into any other kind of arrangement with conservatives . To state the obvious, hardly any seats have been declared. I prefer to wait and see what the pe