Technology is safe. If they are making claims that this Technology Performs more safely than human drivers. Second, the enforcement capability should be strengthened. Htsa has the authority with safetyrelated defects but its ability to get new cars up and ready has been challenged. Congress should give the agency imminent hazard authority. A hardagencies must take look at the risks of the lack of Cyber Security in vehicles. Cant wait. Requestedrepeatedly imminent hazard authority. Conclusion, automated innovation is essential. And included features of major benefits to consumer safety. But our ambitions must be balanced with accountability and how humans of interact with this technology. Building public trust is critical. Public data, Agency Oversight and attention to a total vehicle and consumer first approach will be needed to ensure that safety keep space of technological change. Rep. Burgess chair thanks the gentle lady. You are recognized for five minutes. I serve as the Senior Vice President of the Government Affairs for the motor and equipment association. Mema is the leading International Trade association. By directly employing 800,000 americans and generating the total impact of 4. 2 million jobs, the Member Companies are the larger employees of manufacturing jobs in the u. S. A forplauds nhts developing the policy. Given the rapidly evolving events, we believe this policy as opposed to regulations clarifies the National Framework with a clear role for the states and sets the pathway for all vehicles to navigate the complexities of Automated Vehicle technologies. We are currently working with our members to provide them with and willby november 22 provide those to the subcommittee. We are committed to continuous dialogue with nhsta. However we urge them to clarify the policy in the near term with the input received from the public listening sessions and the written comments today i wanted to lay out a few challenges and opportunities we have identified. We would strongly urge the agency to treat test vehicles covered by the policy separately from production vehicles. Typically these vehicles are Company Owned and operated only by trained employees and are not intended for production and sales to the general public. For instance, it is not clear in the policy whether nhtsa intends component manufacturer should apply for exemptions for test vehicles to test and evaluate five systemsough on public roads. With evolution of these technologies, time is critical. The process outlined in the policy for test vehicles, including the exemption process, could delay innovation. We have serious concerns of the protection of manufacturers intellectual property rights. We are also seeking an additional clarification with respect to test vehicles. Under section 24404 of the and operates test vehicles that do not meet safety standards, provided they are not offered for sale. This provision does not include component manufacturers, and we would urge the committee to clarify this provision. Mema and the15, Boston Consulting Group released a report examining the safety benefits of advanced driver systems. The study found that these technologies can provide immediate safety benefits through partially and fully Automated Vehicle fleets that could virtually eliminate traffic fatalities. But it is important to note that some of these technologies constitute the level to automated systems. These include technologies aeb, and active Cruise Control and other technologies available on a wide range of vehicles. Delineate nhtsa to the impact this policy has on level two technologies. As previously recognized, this policy applies to all vehicles. Much of the testimony you have heard directed towards the automotive industry. Many of the opportunities and challenges applied to both passenger and commercial vehicles. The commercial Vehicle Association is concerned about the protection and Safety Systems and other new technologies are key for truckingor is fleets. Their other parties that must be engaged in development and implication of policy for all the challenges and benefits to be fully explored. We encourage nhtsa to continue interacting with those parties and encourage this committee to work with them, too. Fourth, original equipment components always have complete scopelity till the full to assess performance. It is important that all stakeholders of a clear understanding of nhtsas expectations of the roles and responsibilities for oems and component manufacturers. These to station should be clarified and articulated in the context of the policy. Finally, mema encourages nhtsa to take the lead with counterparts to cooperate and develop a policy beyond the u. S. The earlier we get ahead of opportunities to a line, the better it will be. Government, industry and the driving public. In conclusion, the members of mema are committed to safety and at the forefront of developing additional lifesaving technologies. We appreciate this opportunity to testify and would be happy to answer your questions. Rep. Burgess mr. Shapiro recognized for five minutes for an opening statement. Ceo of theident and Consumer Technology association. You members of the subcommittee for inviting me to testify. I i also went to thank you for hosting these disruptor series. This is important. You proud attention to new technologies that are fundamentally changing the world. Disruptive counsel is for services that are disrupting traditional Business Models and creating new markets and delighting consumers. So this is a good thing. That is what the country was based on. Represent technology companies. If you come to the event, you will see companies connected to Driverless Cars. And youll see the future in one place. Our Member Companies are revolutionizing the Transportation Network and are on their way to making self driving cars a reality. This comes about because the Wireless Industries are poised to infiltrate the Business Models. We have new opportunities to provide American Leadership and solve realworld problems. Overave heard over and today about self driving cars preventing injuries. They will also enhance the travel business so more will use the cars to see america and change our view of cars so they will be a Service Rather than a product. So i think what we should do is americanl of cutting road for tallies by a certain toe and challenge groups solve legal, legislative and standard regulations to achieve that outcome. Is come upn that today is whether the Technology Must be perfect before it is deployed. Perfection may be an unreachable goal. Improvement should be welcome. As you have heard, this technology is saving lives and paving the way. We need the technology to help the jazz enis of drivers. Lifesavingding technology. Our research confirmed there is growing interest in self driving technology. The benefitrch on of self driving cars. More than 60 are interested in replacing the car that they own with self driving vehicles. Todo need uniform achieve promote safety and provide consistency. By the encouraged recognition of the need. We also recognize the need of flexibility. Appreciate the formal comments on it. The energy is the primary regulator but other agencies have a role. Representatives have asked how they can provide input for their needs. To simply stay informed. For seekingd vdot broad input. But consensus is so important that we need all the believers to Work Together towards a national goal. Requiresally government facilitation and leadership at the top. We did this. We did it asesolve we create commercial rules for the internet. We have industry together with all the interested parties working with government. The result was a huge boost in content creation and commercial internet ventures. Self driving vehicles will be our gift to future generations. They result in more freedom and greater mobility. Government Work Together, we can remove the impediment and stop carnage on american roads. He i think all our witnesses for testimony. We like to go to the gentleman from kentucky first. Thank you for yielding. How soon can we expect self driving cars on the road . Obstacles tomain get them on the road faster . That is the big question. This has been documented pretty well but i will try not to. Most of our members have talked about self driving cars being on 2021, but that will be geofenced or certain conditions. As i indicated a megabear testimony, the deployment will take two generations. 30 years from now before it is the majority of the fleet. The fleet issue is huge. Issue between the Driver Assistance Systems and active Safety Systems that we are seeing today in self driving cars and how are they preparing consumers for fully automated cars . They could take over a function. It would take over a function of the a control vehicle. So the stages of automation. The first stages of automation. And i think what you are seeing when they discuss this is that they know this is going to be a gradual case. As gary mentioned about the aftermarket, it can provide viable warning devices to consumers. So if you have a car that is older it could warn you but not take over. Warn you of safety hazards. So again, the levels of automation are important and we will see this increase over years. Daughter insited my chicago and we have an older car and i had to parallel park. Guys aith a friend of my nicer and more expensive car that actually guided him right in. It was interesting. I need it. Because i dont actually do that hardly ever at home. You kind of distraction do think this will have on jobs . I know you talked about this increasing economic opportunity. But anytime there is distraction, it creates jobs. But this does displace people. Ivanka will have the equivalent of what the car did to those who rode horses. This will be big. Youre not only talking about professional drivers. Talking about insurance. Shops. And what will consumers get in return . Lower insurance prices and fewer for talent is. Less people in hospitals. It will be disruptive. And that is a critical issue and we have to Start Talking about this. So what happened to telephone operators and travel agents . That is what this election day has been about. We have an obligation to those in business and government to figure that out. And part of figuring that out is the jobs in the next century. Truck driver jobs that are open that are not being filled. We need Truck Drivers now but that will shift over time. Andave an aging population we need people to take care of them. Stem graduates. We will be talking about this next year because this is important. And i think we have to focus on this as a country and society. My family has the automotive supply business. So we Deal Companies trying to develop this technology. And i didnt have a chance to go to the demonstration earlier but they say the biggest problem is that everyone follows the rules, it works. But if you get into a situation when there is merging and you have to force your way in, those are the things that really are driver using you know, we all do that. They areis where struggling to figure out how to get around those kinds of situations. Those are addressed the bowl situations. It is a matter of what algorithms you create. Problem butlvable Everyone Needs to get together to figure out how to solve it. Wainwright in as lady from illinois. Five minutes. Thank you. I was interested in your testimony. In the late 70s, crash safety was considered at 50 miles per hour. And today the minimum safety hourard is 30 miles per with a 35 mile per hour for new car assessment programs. How did that happen and why . There was a challenge made to the Engineering Community under the carter administration. Said, lett out and the engineers solve this problem a researchigned safety vehicle and it had a number of interesting Safety Innovations including a plastic styrofoam that was inside the vehicle structures so it was crash absorbing. Crash safe vehicle at 50 miles per hour. That is a High Water Mark how did that get reduced . It was in the standard. It was a test vehicle. And it demonstrated what would be possible from an engineering perspective. Did that ever get implemented in the manufacturing . No. The vehicles were mostly destroyed under the reagan administration. Two were recently discovered and were brought in for study. This, does aask 3035 mile per hour standard make sense today . That is what we test for . Should we be looking at something more significant . Standards,e a lot of including dealing with smaller statute individuals and how aggressive airbags would be. So you have to factor in the whole vehicle approach. But if you factor that into the it helps alln occupants. And that is what the design of the Research Safety vehicle was possible. are talking about new technologies and the cars driving themselves. But you also mentioned that consumers will be more likely to entrust their lives to crash safe vehicles. And these should be viewed as corollary to automated systems. In thatoing enough regard . Has our focus shifted in being able to take care of this . Should we be continuing to emphasize that and are we doing that and of . The crash safety methods . I dont think we are. Have a number of standards that are out of date and have not kept pace with where vehicles are performing today. And we should be upgrading the safety standards. A mixed fleet is what we will be dealing with for the foreseeable future. So saving lives in the interim is a priority. About the talking consumer electronic show . You do that every year . Wondering, there is driverconvergence of reliance on a semiAutonomous Vehicles but also the increased use of smart phones and mobile Entertainment Options in cars and im wondering, is there some conflict here . For the distraction of drivers . At the same time, we talk about more autonomy for cars themselves that we are also providing more distractions in the transition time. Is there a conflict there . How do we resolve that . We resolve that by getting to self driving cars as soon as possible. I dont think you will be a will to change the fact why did we go up to 35,000 deaths last year . Miles butand more there are other distractions. And it isnt only using devices. Drinking coffee and people are tired and they follow sleep a lot. I think we are all more tired now for some reason. Outpoint is, this is going and the way to get out of it is through public education, strong laws on distracted driving and we have to get to Driverless Cars and active collision avoidance. And we are getting there quickly. I had an experience where i was stopped and didnt hit the car finally because it took over. I think every american should have that. We also need to get this through the aftermarket. We cant wait 30 years. Im just wondering if i could ask to comment . We see an anonymous variance among the effectiveness and facing features of various current performance technologies. Some of them dont work under certain weather conditions and others might not be to a consumers liking. In the lane assist technology, we have done testing to swerveare trying to avoid a bicyclist or triesrian and the vehicle to correct that by pulling the steering will out of your hand to keep you in the lane. That could actually cause a collision and is unnerving to be steering into what you are trying to avoid. So these technologies are in development. And some are better than others. And that is where we think having data sharing is so important. Because once the public can get access to which systems work better than others then you can see how to set the direction for the future of the technologies. Thank you. While all these technologies are developing, i hope you develop one for hot cars notification of leave a child in the backseat. Children died because they are left in those cars. There has to be something. There is something. Thatp thinking of the fact everyone of us in the room has probably seen somebody and swerved away into a lane and we didnt know if somebody was there. And the technology that we are going to will avoid that risk that we are taking. Thank you to all of you. Gentlemangnize the from oklahoma. Five minutes for questions. Thank you to the panel for being here. I couldnt agree more that it does unnerve you when you switch lanes when you are in traffic and you have to get over and you have to steer into it, which is on mycannot stand it wifes vehicle but i do get the need. But i get the need. The the safety part of it. But i am from a rural part of the country. Just to get to my house you have to go for milestone the country road and that is off the two lane road and the highway is a long way away. And we pull a lot of trailers. Trucksre trailers behind and if youre with the emily the weekend i probably have one behind me. How does the technology affect that . There are so many variances that go into place. Trailer handles that behind the vehicle, whether it has a guzan neck on it or if it is with an rv, it all changes. Not to mention, you are going down dirt roads. Those are great points. Those are great things when you plug in equation into the car, it will know what kind of road it is on. And it will know if you have been drinking or not. The point is we have so many accidents today. There are disabled americans and Older Americans that are waiting for this to happen. I agree. 12 of my population is over 70 years old. We can also talk about drones to get servic