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What we have found is that it all begins at the beginning. Government starts poorly there are consequences to the rest of the administration. We are focused on making this the best transition ever. Host through your work with the center for president ial transition, you have been calling for both candidates, during the election, to start preparing for this transition as far back as january of last year. There was a column in the Washington Post about it. Trumpll is donald prepared for this transition . I think we saw the very best transition season, preelection, that there has ever been. So both major candidates, Hillary Clinton and donald trump, had aggressive preelection transition efforts which started before the conventions and ramped up after the conventions. We have never seen that, historically, where both candidates have had such a positive and fruitful investment in transition planning that early on. And i think trump did the right thing. Chris christie put together a great operation. But now they are in the game time mode and they have to move with great dispatch because there is a lot to be done. Host give us a sense of how many decisions need to be made . What goes into the transition process . Guest it is impossible to overstate the complexity of this task. A 4 trillion organization with millions of people when it comes to military. 4000 political appointees, a love and hundred of them have to be vetted and confirmed. Something that no other country or democracy on the planet has, that number of political appointments to come in. So it is a phenomenally complicated task. Issues,with budgeting you not only have a continuing resolution but you also have a budget that you will be expected to present to congress one month after the inauguration. The list goes on and on of things that you know you need to do. The reality is that there are a bunch of things you cannot anticipate, the asteroids that you have to be ready for. Host are you working with trump in this process . We have no authority. We are a Nonprofit Organization. But we are assisting in every way we can. Everything from information about what is required for these jobs an interesting note with the 4000 political appointments, there are no available political job descriptions. So the government puts out a book which describes the titles but nothing about what the requirements are for doing the jobs well. So we are in the process of producing those and providing them to the trump transition effort but also to the senate and others who are interested, so they have some sense about what the core requirements are. These are to be job interviews. Host we are talking with max stier. If you have questions about the process, the phone number for democrats is 202 7488000. Republicans, 202 7488001. Ndependence, 202 7488002 you can begin calling it now. I want to talk to you about the beginning of the turnover we have seen at this process and whether that is normal . The atlantic magazine had this to say about the early days of the trump transition from the outside it looked like a mess. A new president elect replace the man who had been running his transition efforts, with the soon to be vice president. Other departures quickly followed in what was described as a poor job people close to chris christie. Is this normal . Guest there is no normal and the bar is pretty low, given the fact that no president has done this the way it needs to be done today. And i should have started with this point. Transition is not only about taking over a complex organization but transition is the point of maximum vulnerability for our nation. So the preelection planning thats the trump team did was strong. It creates a new issue, you have to merge the preelection transition operations with the campaign transitions. We are still in the relative early days. The trump transition effort can recoup the last time but there is a time to be done and it isnt just naming the people or just the top people. It is about getting teams in place and making sure they are cleared with respect to ethics issues and background checks. You have to bring them to the senate for the 1100 confirmed positions. On the outcome, they should have their team in the field on the realtime. That means the top 100 positions in place by day one. Host if we are looking for mileposts to get to, what needs to happen early december . By the end of the year . What will you be looking for to see if things are on track . Clearly, you need to make sure you are putting the top people in place and are moving with dispatch to see that happen. But you have to see that activity occurring not just at the very top but further down into the organization. Deputy secretaries, general counsel host are we seeing that yet . Guest not yet but it is still pretty early. The tendency is for folks to compare what prior president elect have done. If you get down to what we think needs to happen, we do need to see a more accelerated process. And one of the key questions will be can they scale effectively . They will not be able to run everyone through the process we have seen so far, visiting with trump, in order to get the numbers that they need ultimately. Visitso 4000 different would have to take place. Guest and not all have to take place during the transition process but literally, hundreds of folks. And it ought to be about putting teams together. One of the challenges in the past is that people have picked individuals at the top and have not been looking downfield at what the requirements are for later on. Did a lot of good planning and one of the things we need to see is are they using that planning to achieve their goals . Host what is an example of the good planning . Guest that they put together landing team operations. When i say landing teams, that is a group of people who enter into agencies and do due diligence. Understanding what are the issues inside an agency. They have to be thinking about what the Campaign Promises are and how to implement them. And there are a lunch of agencies that have not seen landing teams arrive. Host president ial transitions with max stier, taking your calls. Democrats, 202 7488000. Republicans, 202 7488001. Ndependent, 202 7488002 james is a democrat, go ahead. Caller i was just wondering how he learned to be bipartisan and if he would be just as willing to work with a clinton administration, if the need should arise . Guest i love the question, james. I learned through experience. Like many people in washington, i have been in the partisan world and boy, do i preferred the nonpartisan world. My view with what we do at the partnership is president elect trump is the pilot of our airplane. We all have to hope he succeeds as the pilot. We all should have a common interest in making sure our country succeeds and therefore making sure our government is as effective as possible. The answer to your question is absolutely. I would be happy to help whoever was the president elect. In fact, we have been helping both sides. One point we were helping five different campaigns to make sure that they would be ready, nods, in fact, they got the from their party and were selected by the American People. Host who were the five . Cruz, in april we had ted donald trump, bernie sanders, Hillary Clinton and folks from the romney readiness project that we helped years ago and we had folks out of the Obama White House altogether, which comes back to the question all of them together for 1. 5 days, focus on what needed to happen to make sure our next president was ready to govern. And everyone laid their swords down at the door. And there was a common understanding among that group interest. Had a common and this is one of the phenomenal things about america. You fight hard during the election, but ultimately, we all have an interest in an effective functioning government. And that is what we are committed to. Host lets go to say in maryland. Good morning. Caller good morning. A week ago, there was talk on that as trump was picking his advisers and staff and thinking about his team, a lot of lobbyists had infiltrated that process. Which goes against his promise. So im wondering if your guest has any thoughts on that . An update on how that discussion is evolving in the transition . Guest sure. The drain the swamp metaphor is a powerful one. There are things that should be done to make sure that our government is responsive to the people and not simply to special interests. And that is an area where i think we should see more activity from the Trump Administration. Prior transition efforts have all had ethics commitments. Recent president s have done something early on in their administration when they have laid down markers about what they expect from their political appointments. Easy target. An and an appropriate one to make sure that people who are serving in our government or helping to head up our government are motivated for the right reasons. That it isnt enough, in and of itself. One of the things we need to rules andon is the regulations that the Trump Administration will put in place to guarantee that we have well, guarantee is too strong of a word, but to make sure we have in place a more ethical government. One way we do that in our country is by making sure we service andr civil going back 100 years ago, we had a president assassinated by a wouldbe caucus seeker. It makes no sense that we have 4000 political appointees. Spoils vestige of the system. And one way we could improve the system is to reduce the number. F political appointments the president should be able to run the government according to the policies that the president has been elected on but you dont need 4000 appointments to be able to do that. Strong Career Civil Service and ours has great people in it. But the system needs to be reformed in big ways. I wonder if you have thoughts about Donald Trumps proposed hiring freeze to reduce the federal workforce. Retirements is that something that is effective . Would that create an effective government . Guest not at all. The motivation is a good one. We should change our system. It is a government that has done wonders for the American People but it isnt built for today or tomorrows world. So changes absolutely need to take lace but a hiring freeze is not one of those. It has been tried before. There was an accountability isice and what was sound that it actually cost the government more money. Here is the interesting thing. You dont freeze in place something that isnt right for today or tomorrow. One you think about i. T. , of the areas across government that needs to be reformed and has spent almost 80 of that on maintenance and look at the workforce. More people over the age of 65 and under the age of 30 in federal government. Do we want to freeze that in place . What we really need to do is refresh the workforce and get the right talent in. It is appropriate to reduce the cost of government but freezing the workforce is in the way to do that. And fact, it will cost you more at the end of the day. So a good idea but the wrong way to get there. Host lots of discussion about the top of the government workforce. The appointments and cabinets. Here is the lead story in the talkingeet journal about the emerging battle over secretary of state. Trump keyy over hires. Mitt romney emerged as the early favorite for the post, despite his criticism for the nominee during the primaries. It escalated sunday when kellyanne conway, a top trump adviser, said that a breathtaking number of people would feel betrayed if he got the cabinet post after he had opposed donald trump so publicly. Made andhese picks are when he finally settled on who will be in these positions, it to you have any suggestions or strategies to make the as easy androcess not drawn out as possible . Guest a terrific question. There is a tendency for everyone to focus on picking their people and they dont focus on what happens next. An example of that is, in my view, who you pick and how you prepare your folks. You need to pick and you need to pick wellqualified people. Positionr about descriptions is essential here. That then you need to make sure you get them through the process of effectively. One area that is critical here is understanding the process. A president does not have the same conflict of ethics rules apply to them as anyone else but anyone else does. So secretary state or anyone else, you have to be able to clear the ethics reviews. You have to go through a background check with the fbi. So making sure you have lined all that work up effectively and have had good communication with the committee is vital to getting these people into place quickly. Committees7 senate that actually have jurisdiction over a nominee. So they all have their own individual processes that need to be working with both the majority and minority staff there. And then, you have to think about what happens to those folks when they arrive. Needosition is that they to arrive prepared to run the government effectively. You can get great qualified people from the outside but once they arrive, they have to apply those skills to the government environment. Over again,ver and great people come in and not understand the differences amount differences around the hiring process. Thathey make mistakes could be avoided. So one of the things we have done is to create a curriculum for the new political appointees so they can avoid those mistakes and start right. Host a followup on the mitt romney story. This coming out during our two sources at the top of the trump transition confirmed to msnbc that they spoke to the president elect today and that trump is furious at conways comments, suggesting he betrayed his supporters by considering romney for that position. If you want to talk transitions with max stier, the phone numbers are democrats, 202 7488000. Epublicans, 202 7488001 independent, 202 7488002. Or send us a tweet. Jean is concerned about the the double standard will be breathtaking but not surprising is what she says. Any suggestions from the partnership to the incoming Trump Administration on how to deal with the issue of his business interests . Guest it is obviously a very challenging one and the law allows for a lot of latitude for the president but the politics are not so clear. So i think the basic point i would make is that campaigning and governments are very different. Veryg the pivot is challenging, for any president ial candidate and i think that for trump, making sure that he is investing in the necessary expertise to be able to understand that change is absolutely vital. Weekend, don mcgann was named as the white house counsel. That is an incredibly important position