Phone calls raise money . Mark green yes. Once you decide you want to be the mayor of new york city it is a marathon. I have to make 80 phone calls a getreach 20 people a day aid commitments a day. They put up calls i have in front of me. Gave 5,000 to schumer, 10,000 to clinton. He likes waterskiing. Hey brian, hows the waterskiing . If you dont do that you cant run competitively. Would endnow that i up running against the richest man in World History to run for office, Michael Bloomberg. 2001 september 11 was the day of the primary. Give us a little bit of the flavor what that was like. Green i have never spoken about that because i lost an election in part because of that. 3000 people lost their lives. The statute of limitations has run. When you write a memoir you have to be candid. 11 years before september had an apartment in east 90th street right near gracie mansion. I said im going to run for mayor. At the guy have a record of recognition. As a very good chance ill win. Unless theres an external event that upends the card. What a racial shooting in bensonhurst. Dinkinsfected the koch mayors race in 19 a nine. When david one. Two years later the night of september 10, 2001 the same apartment i turned to my wife and i said there have been no external events. Nothing to upset the apple cart. So it looks like i will win the nomination or get into a runoff. Kinahora is a jewish expression that translates to knock on wood. That morning i went to vote and im supposed to see that night john oneill. Build bratton has been a supporter of mine. The famous new York City Police commissioner then and now. He said well you meet john oneill. Andandles the security heads up the Bin Laden Task force. I said i want to spend time with my wife on Election Night but ill see him later. A. M. Im on 11th street in manhattan. I made the last handshake of the whole campaign. I said lets go back to the apartment. She looks up to the south and gasps. It was a perfectly clear blue sky. Everybody knows what i saw. So i saw it live. I was able to interpret it for television commentators. I had no experience with anything like that. Just the diehard movies. It affected everyone. In effect in world and by city. It affected the election and to me least of all. But it shifted the conversation. From education and housing in traffic to one issue. Security and rebuilding new york. Change the conversation in the campaign. It affected me as well, a lot. Brian lamb that was primary day. How the people are you running against . Mark green there were four of us. All four of us were known citywide officials. None of us were fdr. None of us were super famous. But we were running under campaignfinance system where you get the same amount of money. I was running against the borough president from the bronx in the city controller and the City Council Speaker. I was called the public advocate. Rulew york city we have a they have to get over 40 in order to win the nomination. Otherwise you could have some 41 . O get you want make sure that person gets a majority. Runoff with freddy a rising latino star, the borough president of the bronx. Brian lamb weve got some video from a documentary was made by your son. This is 2001. Jonah was allowed to do with this documentary. Mark green he was very precocious. Very good writer. He had a school project. I said i will so my dad. Hes running for mayor. It was a relatively boring until 8 46 a. M. , september 11. Then again that only interesting but historic. He ended up having inside access to a candidate. Know withd we now James Carville and George Stephanopoulos was what happens with the top aides and staff of the major candidate. Governor quinn. On whata great film its like for a family to run for high office. The highs and lows. Every day you live a lifetime. Jonah shot and finished it and sold it to sundance. With airs it on a real film called the perfect candidate. That was about oliver north. Ran foran aide who senate in virginia. He said sorry about 9 11. But it made for a better film. I said, anything to help. Lamb they can watch the whole thing on youtube. You go to jonah green. Com you can access the film. Jonah my father had been in the lead for months. That would be easy. The most prominent city democrats were vying for the nomination to succeed Rudy Giuliani could run again because of term limits. Freddy ferrera was the Bronx Borough president. A family man from queens was the city comptroller. Peter vallone had been speaker of the city council. There was also Michael Bloomberg. Andmocrat turned republican a billionaire and a political novice. And then there was mark green. Green . Amb who is mark mark green my grandparents came from poland and russia. Butather was a lawyer smalltime landlord owner. My mother was a kindergarten teacher. She had five miscarriages before i was born. I was considered a miracle child. My parents treated me like wow, hes here. I have an older brother stephen al green who is wellknown in new york. He is the funny older brother that i kept teasing. What is now the owner of the largest commercial Real Estate Property in manhattan. It has a market cap of 14 billion. An extremely influential mentor in my life. Living on long island. We lived in brooklyn originally and moved to long island. A suburban family. My family was rockefeller republicans. A conservative, it hit the earth and killed off these moderate republicans. Im sure they voted for nixon over kennedy. I go to cornell and Harvard Law School in the 60s. I became very progressive. Very antiwar. Very procivil rights. Intellectually in several of the huge movements that characterized the 60s. I argue my book they are tapping the shoulder of 2016 at the same time. B gayrights, antiwar, rights, consumer rights. Ineave Harvard Law School 1970. The editorinchief of the harvard civil rights Civil Liberties law review. Its not the harvard law review itself. This was the alternate law review. The more progressive one. Up with mayorined john lindsay. Fetching coffee for him. Mayor as a republican for in 1965 and that he won reelection in 1969 as an independent. Because the republicans wouldnt give him the nomination. He was a moderate liberal. I got a phone call from ralph nader like never met. But i admire him from afar. He was a super famous, cover of newsweek, which was a magazine that was published in the 1960s. He was a knight in shining armor. He asked if i would consider working for them. Nader said do you want to make coffee or do you want to make history . Ralph was a very persuasive person. I ended up working for him for 10 years. I am off and running. Influential. Of my life. Every night for 10 years ralph would call me and we would talk about what he did that day and what i did. We werent peers, he was ralph nader and i was he a lawyer. I was learning from the master of the craft. Lets go back to the mayors race. Did Alan Hennessey run into some corruption problems. Green he then ran successfully for state controller. Together it a contribution from an interesting gave him free flight to israel. He was prosecuted and convicted and jailed. For corruption. He is now out and rebuilding his life. Brian lamb what happened to Freddy Ferrera . Mark green he later ran for mayor himself in 2005. He won the democratic nomination. I endorsed and campaigned for him. By 15 points to the incumbent Michael Bloomberg. Brian lamb heres some more from your sons documentary. Focusing on the twin towers of my candidacy, educating , that will take me to victory. Are you going to vote on tuesday . Brian lamb what is your reaction when youre in front of crowds like that . Green the clip you showed had me saying before 9 11 the twin towers of my candidacy and now this is ground zero of politics on the west side. So that is security. Eerie. Ice to be an athlete. And when youre playing a sporting events in the crowd screaming you kind of block it out. You are trying to communicate to the crowd that is somewhat overexcited. Bill clinton is good at it, donald trump. They can read a crowd and feed off it the key is to be yourself. Public the interviewers of tv or candidate, they can spell a phony. Smell a phony. You might as will be yourself because everyone else is taken. I tried to be candid and blonde. You like it when people are cheering. Was campaigning for me when i ran for the u. S. Senate in 1986. We were on a Street Corner in lower manhattan. This guys a guy hate you governor cuomo. O said thank you sir for your views. That he was a very animated guy who had a temper. So you have to stay calm. , like trumpverreact who struts while sitting down. Or if youre too cool that people connect with you. I try to keep an even keel. Which is hard for me. Because really good things happen i would say oh its ok. Brian lamb other than joni got to women in your family. Mark green my wife i have been married to two for 39 years. She was in public affairs. Working for people for the my daughter is the mother of our two grandchildren and a lawyer. Works for a notforprofit educational firm. Putting kids and technology together. Brian lamb this might be painful for you to look at. The number of elections you have lost. There it is. If we missed one let me know. Go back to the 1980 election. Who did you running as for congress. Mark green i worked for ralph nader for 10 years. I loved it. But im really a new yorker. O and itbying congress can i run for Public Office . I decided to go back to new york and run for the house against an incumbent. Bill green a very effective low key moderate republican. 57 to 43. Election lamb what was it like to lose . Mark green its ok. Book i say i have a big defect. Was born without an insecurity gene. If i think something i can do it. Bad. Is good and its i didnt have selfdoubt. I was an underdog i had lived in washington. I was not really a native of the east side of manhattan. Its called the Silk Stocking district. Lindsay had john represented the district. I went all out. It was a sprint. Many peoplei said lose their first races. I am ok. I went back to washington to run public citizen. Ralph offered me that. Crushed. I was young it was a formative learning experience. Brian lamb you mentioned your brother stephen. Hes made a lot of money. Have you ever made any money . Mark green no. Realtor in new york although he is not run for president like another realtor in new york. We divided up the world. Steve took the private sector and i took the public sector. And i get backs again. Baghdad. He is seven years older than i am. The deal as i dont tell him what to do in the private sector but he gets to tell me what i should think of the public sector. I am all ears because i want to learn from everybody. Out as a moderate republican. He switched to the democrats so you can vote for his kid brother when i ran house and senate and mayor. Lamb did it ever matter to you, did you want money . Mark green no. It never occurred to me. I grew up with parents who were not wealthy but were comfortable. In a north shore suburb called great neck. West egg and the great gatsby. I never felt the urge to make money. 60s asned me on in the an admirer of the kennedys was to make policy. That was what drove me. I went to law school and i worked with nader. Rhineland in 1986 he ran for the senate. Who did you run against . A primary i had against a man named john dyson. A very wealthy man. Hed been in the governors cabinet. So he was close to marriott cuomo. Cuomo want to dyson to run because he could tell them what to do. But he stayed neutral because he didnt want to get involved in the primary. John dyson said mark green cant raise a dime. So i said it was the mark of dimes campaign. Is a kind of a Bernie Sanders mind. 700,000 in increments of under thousand. He wrote one check to himself or 7 million. , in i heard that in august said what . I cant win. But i 154 to 47. Won 5447. He was more of an elitist. I ran against senator al damato. Incredible primary victory against jacob javits back in 1980. He was the chairman of the Senate Banking committee. Had coming in. At the time i called them a walking quid pro quo. Giving to get. To 41. 57 he had ignored me. I was the underdog. I was failing upward. Lost theoint i had house in the senate so my next option was either pope or president. Lamb that you won the race for public advocate in 1993. Green every city in the country has a number two. In new york it was always the president of the city council. With theld by people names out smith and fear alone la guardia. Two iconic figures who went on to become governors and mayors. When the position became that would thought be great. It is an ombudsman office. We monitor City Services to show there is no fraud or suspicion. You represent people who dont have a voice. Iran for it. I won easily. I defeated a state senator named david paterson. Later he succeeded governor Eliot Spitzer as the governor of new york. He said you shouldve let me win public advocate then maybe you would be a governor now. David has a great sense of humor. Brian lamb you mentioned al smith. You were at it now smith dinner one night in white tie and sales. What is the l smith dinner . And then you are called away to a meeting. Ferrer. With freddie for green now smith was the governor of new york and catholic. The first catholic nominee of a major party in 1928. He was subject to horrible and theholic commentary next catholic who got a nomination one, john kennedy. It is run by the catholic elite of new york. The cardinal at that time was oconnor. In 2000 bush and gore came and the tradition is every four years the nominees of both parties,. They make humorous toasts at each others expense. In 2001 i was now running for mayor. I had been the nominee. I got elected. Sorry, nominated. Speech i said what a great race borough president freddie for air ram. Ferrer. I cant wait to work with him. He is latino and i am not. He had supporters who got a little excited. These races end up being racial. I was a leading white liberal in new york city. Marching with sharpton, suing giuliani over racial controversies. Strong support in the black and latino community. The freddie for air was an alliance with al sharpton. Refuse to endorse me for a week as they thought that some of my supporters were racially hostile to them. Not me but my supporters. Finally he calls back and says i will be with you tonight, the night of the al smith dinner. So i leave the dinner in white tie and tails. I go to his headquarters. Clintonlike hillary going to Bernie Sanders original home in brooklyn and begging him to endorse her for president. After she had been the nominee. But i did it because the goal was city hall. I had a meeting with sharpton and top aides. About the primary that was and the election to come. I tried to have a unified party. Republicans what about the racial thing. You were attacked, somebody distributed cartoons out of the New York Post. It sounds ridiculous now. You want the racial campaign, donald trump saying mexicans are racist and a black president is not american, that is it. Campaign, the chair was the first black mayor in new york city. Understood i was a white progressive democrat with strong interracial support. The New York Post is very hostile to liberals and minorities. The justice. Of farara cartoon kissing sharptons rear end to get his support. It was an ugly metaphor for what was shoe. True. He needed a black man coalition to win in a diverse city. Somebody, to this day i hardly grafted and handed it out isaac larian cartoon. As a cartoon. He wanted the party to come together, i denounce reverend did it. Whoever did it would never serve or have a role in any administration where i win. Fracas. D a racial race had not come up at all in the primary and the runoff. Kindling of the 9 11 and bloombergs money lit a flame. Kerosene was added by race. Race is not a big issue in a city that is tempered some black. 10 black. City that has a majority 20 jewishjewish, now in a minority majority, there was racial tension and we were to racial candidates two racial candidates but some of our supporters were not. I often ask, why the heck did you do that . I hated sharpton. Sharpton is a doubleedged sword. Africanamericans admire him, right new yorkers hate him. 60 point disparity in his poll ratings in new york. Upside,et him for the you also get the downside. Ad from the 2005 freddy for our campaign fara campaign. This is al sharpton. What you see is all there was to the ad. Explain al sharpton two people out of the new york city area . Impossible. I have never met anyone in public life is a bigger gap iq, eq, their high, performance skills very high if his character and integrity, very low. Sought, he could have lied to me. This is a moan among the rating, 75 favorable among africanamericans and 50 Approval Rating among white new 15 Approval Rating among white new yorkers. Racially divided the city. Racial anxieties. They became more apparent. First black of a president that he does not love america, of obama. Nomineeat, a democratic oneaday white coast and with black support. Sharpton blew that up. I decided, i will not answer his endorsement because he is so unpopular but my voters. I will treat him with respect because he is an africanamerican civil rights leader. Him of wife and i invited and his wife to see the opening nuremberg. E we enjoyed it and had dinner. Decided not to answer his endorsement. As a strategy, if you will. Two months later, he said mark we beg me for my endorsement. Now he is denied. Denying it. He would constantly be dancing around. Before trump, there was sharpton. Saying Something Different every day. Im off to the flame of the media. A moth to the flame of the media. Like the 13th time of the clock. Raises questions about everything the clock did before. When he lied about me then, i realized that is what he does. I could never trust him again. Because i stood up to him, he constantly attacked me and when bloomberg, a very substantial, smart, successful guy. Way. Acially wrong in any sharpton said, im glad we beat m