Shouldve known better were saying that it would not matter if we failed to meet our obligations. I think that changed the discussion, as you see today, being able to fairly easily extend the debt limit. But i remain frustrated a lot of days that things that should be easy, that everybody can agree on are hard to do because of the super power of minorities here. Some already have said that you may have higher aspirations. Forget it. This is as high as it goes. 58 years old. When i decided to do this i thought, ok, do you know how much energy you have for this . And where do you go from here and what is the goal . Conrad did something that every day he would get to the office and he would write down what you hope to accomplish. And what is great about what kent did, if he did not write past the farm bill or talk to so and so today. He wrote, fix the debt. It was always the big things. Improve education in america. For me, this is a place where you can participate in that discussion in a very privileged way. We need to be worthy of the privileges given. And i hope that as we continue to build a solid core of people that want to get things done, that we will move towards results. I tell people all the time, did you hear what soandso said about you . And is usually something on the 24hour news network. Ironically, it is usually somebody on msnbc and not fox. Did you hear what they said about you . I care more about they will say about me in 24 years than what they say about me every 24 hours. Weve got to take the long view of moving this country in the right direction. Idle question. What do your siblings say about you . When do you fill in your brother for your brother on radio . Are used to do a lot of talk radio. Was serving his term in the legislature, i did it for threemonth. It is something every politician should have to do. Not just answer the questions, but host a show where you have a very direct relationship with the listeners and the constituents, because occasionally learn something if you keep your ears open. Occasionally, you get your ideas challenged in ways that move you in a different direction. And so im grateful for that opportunity but my siblings remain my best friends. They are an Amazing Group of people. I could brag on and on about what everyone of them do. Brag on and on about how about how proud i am. I have a sister who, give you an example i was in the state house one day and i ran into a guy that i knew pretty well and he came running to us and he said, i want to tell you. You get, you are politician. You did something he really agrees with. And he said, your sister saved my family. She is a family therapist. She does a lot of work with kids who are troubled, trying to put families back together. She has done some very creative programming to keep kids out of the system with intensive family therapy. Who runs parks and recreation and is incredibly organized. I have a sister who is one of the greatest mothers and grandmothers. I have a sister who chairs the social Work Department at und. And every place i go in north dakota when i run into her students they tell me how she changed their lives. Privilege to be here and important to be here, but what my siblings do every day is important. And i am proud of them. Senator heidi heitkamp. Thank you very much. Rank you. Thank you. The all new cspan. Org website is mobile friendly. That means you can access our comprehensive coverage of politics, nonfiction books, and American History where you want, when you want, and how you want. Sites responsive design scales to fit any of your screens from your desktop computer to your laptop, tablet, or smart phone. Whether you are at home, at the office, or on the go, you can now watch cspans coverage of washington. Check our Program Schedules or search our extensive Video Library when ever and where ever you want. Makes it easy. Org for you to keep an eye on what is happening in washington. Cspans american profile series is a conversation with newsmakers on their lives and careers. Now republican senator john thune of south dakota who is serving his second term and is part of the gop leadership. Over the next 40 minutes, he talks about how his grandparents came to the u. S. , his early interest in politics, his family, and his love of country music. , senator john thune republican of south dakota, do you remember the first time he came to washington dc . I do, actually. I was in college and at that time, there was a member of congress from the state of south dakota, jim abner, who i had gotten to know when i was in high school. Here andd me come out spend a week over one of the periods when congress was in session and just got acquainted with the town and with congress and sort of politics in general. And that was one of the first times i guess i can remember actually starting to get a little bit interested in politics. What were your impressions back then . It was really daunting. Like you said, i have never been here before. Youve seen pictures of these things. You have studied it, obviously. But actually coming here and seeing up close and personal washington dc and seeing all the history, it is so rich with history. Very, you know, it was really an inspiring experience. Did you grow up in a political family . I did not. My parents were in education. My dad started out in the hardware business but then sold that, when backing got his teaching degree. He taught high school. He was the athletic director, he coached. And he drove a school bus. My mom was a school librarian. That was not any where i could go to get away from my parents and high school. Politics is not something we talked about. They were very conscientious in terms of voting and very respectful of people in public life and public office, but it was only because of an experience i had when it was a freshman in high school when i really sort of started to get interested. I mentioned jim abner earlier, but i was playing basketball in a tournament that we have in my home town every year. And i was getting varsity time. So i got into the game on a friday night. And i got six attempts at the freethrow. Ive made five then of them. The next afternoon, were playing again, and i was in the Department Store in my hometown ough,uth dakota murd south dakota. As i was in the checkout line, somebody behind me tapped my shoulder and he said, i noticed you missed one last night. I was like, who was the smart alec . Im a freshman and i made five out of six. He introduced himself as congressman jim abner. And he sort of follow my sports career, and i started to get interested in his political career, but that was my first exposure really to a political figure. And so that sparked my interest at least initially. I have never contemplated doing this as a career path until later in life. And that also was related to then senator abner. But growing up it was not something that was really part of our daily conversation and certainly anything that i aspired to do at the time. Where is murder no south dakota . Ofit is at the intersection interstate 90 and highway 83. We always thought it was the center of the universe growing up, but 500 people. When i was growing up, it was about 800 people. Great place to grow up, but when i was growing up, my life began and ended at the city limits. Nowadays kids have access to so many different things. Travel is easier. And with the internet, you can have the whole world at your fingertips, at your disposal. But i would not trade it for anything. Like you said, i went to a small school. Had just a very normal upbringing and in a really great community. And a place i try to stay attached to. How did your family up there end up there, and where does the name thune come from . My grandfather and great uncle came over from norway in 1906. When they got to ellis island, they did not know english of with the exception of apple pie and coffee which they learned on the way over, but they were asked by immigration to change their name because they thought it would be too difficult to spell and pronounce. Their name and nouri was gj elsvik. When they got to ellis island, they picked the name of the farm where they lived near bergen, norway. The thune farm. My grandfather became nick thune. They got through ellis island and then they got a sponsor inside the code and they came out to work on the railroads. Learned english, save some money and in due time bought a small Merchandising Store which eventually became the hardware is in us. And that is kind of how we got to south dakota. Brothers, sisters . I have three brothers and his sister and one younger brother. Two families. Two older brothers and a sister. Then i came along later in life and my younger brother. Your dad is still alive. 93 years old. Part of the greatest generation. He is. My dad was one of those guys they grew up in the middle of the depression. My grandfather, as i mentioned, nick, came from norway. When they moved to my hometown, you know, it was a hard time. And going to the depression really shaped that generation, but they had a real sense of sort of public duty and very conscientious about things. He became a very accomplished basketball player. Got an so that he opportunity to play at the university of minnesota, where he was a threeyear starter. And most valuable player his junior season. So got away from my hometown. Went there for a while. And after he graduated, of course world war ii had broken out. So he decided to sign up, became unable aviator. Went through Flight Training and got assigned to the Pacific Theater of the war hero and was involved in the second battle of the philippine seas. Where he flew combat missions off intrepid. He flew the hellcat. Aircraft,four enemy for which she was awarded distinguished flying cross here in interesting story about that. I did not make this connection and till i had read john mccains book. But it turns out, i went back and checked this because the dates and the times and the places matched up. In the distinguished flying cross that my dad received was issued by admiral john mccain, who was john mccains grandfather. He was the commander of the fleet that my dad was involved with. Do you talk to him, or did you talk to him about what that was like, what he experienced . Probably not as much as i should have. We always knew it and my mom would tell us about it. My dad like most guys of that generation was very quiet. He had to be prompted to talk about it. So hes 93 today. Day, he still is you kind of have to ask the questions, but i tried to do that in there is a project called the veteran history project at the library of congress put on a few years ago. Probably still has going on. But they encourage you to talk to world war ii veterans and veterans from other conflicts in our history. So we got that my dad down and i asked him a lot of questions. For four hours got a lot of that stuff on the record. And so many of the details and things that you just did not know about. And it is really fascinating. That generation was, they were just a Remarkable Group of people. To this day, we all owe them an incredible debt of gratitude. But you used the word humble, and that seems to transcend all who served in world war ii. What was it about that time and those i rarely men but also women who served to try to help support the troops . You talk to my dad and even my mom before she passed away, and they always just talked about the common purpose, the sense of purpose america had at the time. The way everybody came together. People back here shared it here people who wore uniforms were very committed to it. I think when your country is attacked, you have an increased protecty toww want to everything you love. But there is just something it really is it is in the dna of that generation. It is not unique to my dad. I talked to people all the time. And those guys that are still around, those world war ii vets, you really do they just, they went, they did their duty. They came home, they married their childhood sweethearts and they went about raising their families and trying to build a better future. Its a quality thats just really unique in American History and culture. You know, something that i guess i was always grateful for. Every year in high school they would get them to come over and share the story. But that is really the only time he ever talked about it. You mentioned her mom who has passed away. Described her. My mom was an incredibly sweet lady and very outgoing, love life, always had a smile on her face. Very chirpy. My dad had that scandinavian gene, and they tended to be more of a realist. They were a good match. They met when my dad was at the university of minnesota playing basketball her. She was working at a Soda Fountain close to campus. She said she always gave him eager malts when he came in. They met that way. When he went to join the service, they got married right before he shipped off. For a longe apart time, but when he came home, they ended up going out and settling down in my hometown which was a real adjustment for my mom. She was kind of a city girl. She grew up in minneapolisst. Paul and was sort of a custom to many of the things you have been a more populated area of the country. At that time, my hometown had dirt main street. So i think she was taking the train back to minnesota to visit family on a regular basis, but she got to where she loved it there. And she raised me and my siblings there. She was very family oriented. Of a softer side of the family. You know, us boys always wanted to play sports. We loved all the sports. Anytime there was a ball around, we wanted to be out there tossing it and shooting it or whatever. You know, my mom ensured that we all understood other things. We all took piano lessons. I took six years of piano lessons. That was at my moms insistence. She wanted to have an appreciation for music and culture. And she was a big reader. She read all the time. She would make us come in and the middle of the afternoon during the summer when we were not in school and read a book for an hour. So just a really, really special and neat lady. And they were, like i said, good for each other. Actuator from high school. You end up in los angeles at the rival institute of l. A. , viola. Viola university. It started out as a Bible College and became a fully accredited liberal arts christian university. I had a couple of brothers that went out there. My oldest brother had wanted to get a christian liberal Arts Education. And my dad had a High School Classmate who had moved to california. And they had stayed in close contact, and he said, you know, if wants to come out here, he said, my son howard is going to the School Called viola. He can stay with us. If you like so, great. If he doesnt, he can come back. My older brother and sister got undergraduate degrees out there. My mom and dad liked the way they turned out. They were encouraged they encouraged me to attend there. It was a great experience. Getting away from your comfort zone, from your support system can be a good thing. And california is very different from south dakota. And i certainly am a you know, was exposed to some things, learned some things out there. Obviously got a great education christian liberal Arts Education and then came back to the university of south dakota where i got my mba. I then decided after having lived in california that i down inanted to settle the midwest and south dakota. I just never got it out of my system. And loved everything about it. So i came back to get my mba in south dakota, assuming i would end up working Financial Services or some field like that. And ended up on this career path. Culture shock from south dakota to los angeles very much so. Im sure i sort of looks like somebody when i got to california, maybe a little bit of a hayseed. When i got there, because it is, it is a dairy different culture. Au do have, i think, transitional period when you make a big change like that. I was young, and came from a really good, solid up ringing and background. So pretty well grounded, but just an entirely different way of life. Climate was nice, easy to get used to. But the traffic, the congestion all the things you have in the big city were things that in the end, i kind of decided i wanted to back to wideopen spaces of south dakota. Where did you meet your wife Emma Kimberly . Your wife kimberly . I met her at viola. She is from south dakota peerages grew up on a farm. I grew up more towards the western part of the state. We did not know each other. She had been attending college in kansas. And then had decided that she wanted to transfer and had been looking at different schools and found out that viola had a Good Communications department. So she decided to come out there. She was a transferred junior when i met her. And we met at a new student reception. And we got introduced by a guy. Theyre not that many kids at viola from south dakota. So he said, you do you want to meet this girl from south dakota . He told her, do you want to meet this guy from south dakota . When you came back to south dakota, you said you wanted to get involved in finance, and yet you worked for congressman and senator adler, correct . How did that come about. After i got out of grad school, i was working for a short time for the state of south dakota. I got a job working in the department of transportation theyre doing some things, some financial stuff at that time. They were looking at trying to privatize the state owned railroad. They asked me to come up and work on financing options. It was a fun job. And i enjoyed it, but a couple of months into that, i get this ofl from jim abners chief washington, d. C. And said we got this opening. Would you like to come out . I was like, eh. It really was not something i planned on. My wife and i were engaged, planning to get married toward the end of december and they said, can you come out and started job in january . So we talked a lot about it, consulted our family. And made it a matter of prayer and decided at the end that maybe it is a good thing to do. Do it for a couple of years. Check the box. He a great experience in learning a little bit more about how government works. So we came out here in january, 1985. And that was i think, i very much, sort of a lifechanging event in the sense that it sparked my interest in politics and having worked out here, i sort of decided that if the timing and the opportunity were ever write that i might want to try to run for Elective Office myself. But had it not been for that door opening and that opportunity coming along, i would probably be doing