To hold police at a more stricter consequence for the mishandling of the situations versus it is important that we have to have the police in those neighborhoods. It is a mere fact that we want to keep everybody say. Guest if i can say two things with that. One, ethical policing is not counterintuitive or mutually exclusive. I think committee policing is a requisite foundation of effective crimefighting. The more the neighborhood is distressed and has crimes, the more you need Police Officers engaged in the community. To your question is Police Officers should be held to a higher standard . There are no ifs, and, or butts about it. The pride that we have in our officers is because these are the few men and women relative to the country that have committed their lives and sacrificed their lives in the circus of other in the service of others. They have the power to take freedom and even take life. Every time we exercise that kind of authority, especially in a democratic society, we have an obligation in this democracy to question that authority. Officers must be held accountable. Those are not two different things. I count ability is a great form a support. It allows those who are doing a great job to be highlighted for that and not be tarnished by the few. And it is just a few that would tarnish the bash and just respect and bring disrepute to the profession. I think we dont when a walk away from that. We dont want to minimize the fact that we have empowered the officers and we have the community to enforce laws and have this great officer responsibility. We also support the men and women who are doing it and sacrifices they make. We support them, but to stretches of to serve our committee. Host ron davis is with our community policing. Come back to talk with us again. Up next, we will l both are Martin Luther king show with representative Eddie Bernice johnson. She will join us live from dallas. We would be right back. Announcer washington journal continues. Host we are showing our viewers live images from the national monument, the national Martin Luther king junior memorial there. To wrap up our show on Martin Luther king junior day we will head down to dallas, texas where we are joined Eddie Bernice johnson. Dr. King was in selma, alabama for what would be known as the beginning of the selma marches. In what place does selma occupy its place in the Civil Rights Movement . Guest i think it was really important because it was some thing specific for a specific reason that we can relate to that reminds those of us who were living and remember that so well. We still have a lot to do. We have overcome a great deal of an obstacle because of that march. Im able to vote. Im able to serve in congress. There were people before me. I served with one of the people that was in that march. The honorable john lewis. There was a young man who is determined to be help during that time. Im very proud to serve with him. Host that march is captured in a movie in theaters now. Selma. There are some questions surrounding the relationships between Lyndon Johnson and mlk. What was their relationship like around the time of selma . Lbj was coming from your home state of texas. Guest i have Great Respect for lbj, just as ive respect for Martin Luther king. They could not have been done without both of them working together. Both of them wanted to do it. Im in congress now with the environment is wellknown, that it takes both sides working together to get something done. These two people worked hand in hand. I do remember that Lyndon Johnson did not want the Voting Rights act and the Civil Rights Act in the same bill. Im very pleased about that because just knowing what i experience every day, if one goes down, then both will go down at the same time. One provided the roots for the other one. Civil rights, then Voting Rights. Both of those bills in both of those amendments cause me to be able to serve in congress for 12 terms. Host one of those who is talking about the historys former lbj advisor joe callis on a. We talked about this issue of the movie selma with clients lose same clarence who is a professor at american university. He said that his criticism of the movie overstated lbjs role in the summa marches. Here is a bit of what professor had to say. [video clip] christ there was one implication that it was johnsons idea. That is not going the historical record. In fact, it was long before that conversation with johnson. In selma itself, people were organizing and mobilizing. As mr. Callas otto wrote in the washington post, he argued that there was a smooth relationship between king and lbj are also complex. If you read vincent hardings and the rivers in the town hall franklins and the freedom of slavery if you look at these Historic Records and the work of people who were in no way historians, they depend to pick the tensions between the Civil Rights Movement and johnson from 1963 when johnson became president until 1968. Now, johnson stands out relative to who came before him including president kennedy. And who came after him immediately with president nixon and that he really did have a commitment in pushing through the votings right act. It was not tension free. To a great degree, he and civil rights leaders pushed and pushed and pushed and forced johnson to make some of those that decisions. He was not completely on board as implied by his remarks. Host we are talking this morning with congresswoman eddie burning Eddie Bernice johnson. You can call in with your questions and comments for her. Well put the numbers on the screen for you. What did you think about dr. Lou saints statements from that interview . Guest i was not present, but i can say this. Working on issues, i was chair of the Congressional Black Caucus. We had a Great Organization of the voting is right Voting Rights act. I know the tensions that occurred on both sides. These are difficult achievements. When one side feels the other side is pushing one way or the other, there will be tension. But, if both sides were not committed to getting to a goal it would not have happened. I very proud of the role that Martin Luther king played and im very proud of the role that president johnson played. Beyond that, president johnson really did so much more. Ive heard historians over the years say that he was the most outstanding president for minorities since lincoln. Lincoln freed slaves, but think of all the things that had to come after the end of slavery. We were still working for the end of slavery in a sense. But the house and the education and the food for children and medicare and medicaid. These were the issues that president johnson worked on and it happened on his card. He had to be committed. He stood in front of congress and said we shall overcome. No person wants to be pushed in the line of fire without some kind of defense. He knew that he was sacrificing and sacrificing his political careers. Many of the people on the senate in the house that he worked with. I will never forget that a senator from texas was one of the southern senators that stood strong. He was out of the same state as president johnson. These were difficult times in their difficult today. You cannot imagine how difficult it was 60 years ago. Host we are talking about the 50th anniversary of the selma marches in the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Voting Rights act. Of course, the movie selma is out now. Here is an article of cast members of the movie walking the protest route to honor king. We will take your questions and comments. We will start with wesley on our line for democrats. Good morning. Caller how are you doing . I would like to welcome him thank representative johnson for being on the program this morning. Im a former resident of palestine, texas. Im sure you are familiar with it. I would also like to adjust the issue at the time of civil rights in the voting right act was passed, i was in the marine corps. I was a 20 year veteran of the marine corps. I can definitely recall that in 1964, it was the goldwater movement. It pushed a lot of black republicans out of the Republican Party and into the Democratic Party. I think ben carson made the statement that republicans were in charge of making civil rights and issued. They were definitely not so. I would like to thank you and i like your comments on those. Once again, thanks for being on the program. Host we had dr. Ben carson on are so earlier this morning talking about some of these issues. Your response to the caller . Guest i appreciate the call and i know what palestine, texas means and i know some of that history. I glad a texan did call because they do know some of the history of president johnson and oppression that he suffered. And the rough treatment that he received because of the stance that he took for the rights of minorities. Host we will give you another texan. We are going to liberty, texas. Cw is waiting on a line for republicans. Good morning. Caller representative, my question is this if mlk was alive today, he would not be in favor of planned parenthood who has more black best under their belt than anyone. I do not think he would support our hikes moral and dogma, the leader in the founder of the kkk and the Democratic Party. He has a statue in d. C. Known as the devil city where you represent. Could you please explain why there are so many racist in the Democratic Party . I am voting for ben carson. I plan on supporting him to the fullest. It is just sad to see what it has turned into. Host congresswoman, your thoughts on what Martin Luther king jr. With think about our system today and the Democratic Party today . Guest i think Martin Luther king would continue to respect the rights of all. I respect the opinion of the caller. It is certainly not mine. Host we will stay in texas. Houston, texas. Reginald calling in on a line. Good morning. Caller dr. King said that america was the biggest purveyor of violence in the world. That sticks to my core that he feel that we do terrorist acts and i believe that we do and we would definitely disagree with that in 1967. Theres a book out now called the death of a cane in which dr. King was ostracized by johnson, black churches, the naacp, and urban leaders when he stood up and said that america was in favor of violence. He said also that these dollars needed to come back and hold our people accountable in america. John lewis said he would never vote for another House Appropriations bill of military spending. We still voted for that in the Congressional Black Caucus and we still say that we love dr. King, but do you think that america is the biggest purveyor of violence and why he would not be accepted in the white house . I believe that obama is not in the same core with Martin Luther king and he should give that Nobel Peace Prize back because he has blood on his hands and dr. P king was about peace and nonviolence. Host he was bringing up travis miley. We interviewed chat tavis smiley. Congresswoman, your questions on how you think dr. King would view american for policy today. Guest one of the great things about this country and its democracy is the freedom of thought. The fact that all of us do not have to agree. I cannot secondguess all the things that happened 50 years ago. What i can say is that there been Great Results for all the things that did happen that brought us to the point of having the votings rights act and having the Civil Rights Act. I have a Worldwide Program including women, to try and build the culture around the world of peace. I think most americans want peace around the world. Certainly, Martin Luther king did. There are many times in this country where we do enter war whether we agree or not. It happens by majority. We will always have differences of opinion. The great thing about this country is that the constitution allows that. Host how will you be commemorating Martin Luther king jr. Day . Guest i started here this morning. There was a parade. I will be joining my staff for a project. I will travel back to washington later. Host what will that Service Project the . Guest we will be doing a lot of work with the homeless shelter. We do work with the children, reading and going to the library. Continuing to express the importance of knowing our history so that we will not have to repeat it every year, over and over again. Just be reminded that we can stay focused on continuing to fight for the goals that dr. King had in mind. Host we have a caller on our line for democrats. Net, good morning. Caller thank you so much, representative johnson. I just want to say that it is great to have you want today. My question for you is how can we find a way for africanamerican communities to work more together to bring unity to our families and help with structure and jobs, to help find a way where we can make our family life better, where africanamerican men can be with more africanamerican women . I think that is really lacking and that is why were having so many issues because africanamerican people are not together. We are so far apart. It is likely we do not like each other. What can we do to make changes . Because that is what is important. We have a lot of comments coming through cspan that are racist comments and the hate and stuff. We need to build black people up. What do we do is black people to build one another . Thank you. Host congresswoman . Guest it starts with every individual. We all have that responsibility. We can go to black churches and go to our city organizations. We can go to our neighborhoods by communicating with each other. It is not a single persons responsibility. It is all of our responsibility. You know, if you have been hated so long, you have to stop and think about that you do not have to hate yourself. You do not have to be what you have been called on you have been thought about. You can be a great person in spite of it. Host we are talking with 12 term congresswoman Eddie Bernice johnson. She is here with us for about the next 20 minutes or so taking your calls and comments on this Martin Luther king jr. Day. Denver, colorado. Sam, good morning. Caller i would like to say on this day that we should all rested tomorrow and speeds beyond vietnam. It is the most relevant of any of his speeches and he definitely would not support of obamas foreign policies especially with the legal action. Moving on, Lyndon Johnson is not someone who should be celebrated in the black community. Congresswoman, you have your people voting democratic for the next 100 years. He was not a good person. Host do you want to talk about Lyndon Johnson . You know the family, correct . Guest pardon me . Host you know the Johnson Family . Guest i know the Johnson Family. I know the president and his daughters and many of the staff that work with president johnson. I was very impressed with president johnson. The president is perfect. I know theres a lot of criticism around vietnam. I can say this. The things that he did for the rights of all people in this country far in my judgment exceed any other mistake that he mightve inherited, or any way he mightve handled it. You know, i have been in a leadership position far from the president , but i have been chair of the Congressional Black Caucus and i know the toils of leadership. I know the various intricate type of relationships that you have to have in the field that you are going in the right direction. It is very easy to sit on the sidelines and criticize. That is the easiest thing i know. But to be involved and to be on the same and be a part of the solution is much more responsible response much more spots ability and much more difficult, but it is worth it. Host when what you chair of the Congressional Black Caucus . Guest in 2001 and 2002 under president bush. Host what are your expectations of the new chairman . Guest i think congressman butterfield has a great background. All this in the caucus our leaders. We know from which we have come. We know what our goals are. We discuss with each other. We are like a family because we have something in common. We care about all peoples of the world, and most especially those who have the least in this country. Some people criticize us for having a Congressional Black Caucus. It is not just for blacks. It is for the rights for all. We do not condone everything that black people do. We try to set examples. We try to look at legislation. We china to make sure that our rights are respected and that is whether or not is the Democratic Party of the Republican Party. We have no permanent friends and we have no permanent enemies. We had permanent principles. Host georgias next. Als on a line for independents. Caller good morning. I think some people are not aware that the town of the u. S. Government and the death of Martin Luther king. He was a lawyer. He was an investigator. The army and the fbi were p