I wish they would both care law and the le of constitution in the constitution. And if the republicans care, to stop these things president obama is trying to do. Up over the e open weekend. Is it here to stay, do you think . Is obama care here to stay . I hope the republican stop it. I think they have to defunded if theyre going to stop it. If they let it go for another two years, i seriously doubt it will be removed. If it is not removed, it have tially means we created socialized medicine. More and more people will be subsidies you talk about . It is 90,000 for a family of four. Remove that subsidy if you go one dollar over that poverty level, which means you are middle class person, you can have a 10,000 increase in your annual insurance premiums. So what we have done is put ourselves at the mercy of the federal government. One of the most important things in our life, health care, which involves lifeanddeath situations. And also, we are about to hit 18 trillion in debt. The country is headed towards bankruptcy even without obama care. The costs the bankruptcy will be moved closer, and america will be fundamentally changed. Not just because allawi care, but because the economic crisis we have gone through. Scenario, there be a then, somehow resolved . Before obama care was in place a year ago, there were systems in this country for taking care of people who didnt have the money to provide their own health care. First of all, we had a medicaid in place. You also had institutions around the country that provide Free Health Care to people. And there were religious hospitals all around the country. They are not going to turn people away because they dont have the money. The mission was not about i dont think obama care was helping ly about Peoples Health care. I think it was about putting the government in charge of health care. Terry washington journal continues. Joining us, adam green, the cofounder of the Progressive Change Campaign committee. Good morning. For those who do not know, tell us about the Progressive Change Campaign committee. Is about a millionmember organization to fight for democratic issues. Raise 4, we are proud to over 1. 5 million across the country, as well as make 4 phone calls for candidates like al franken. How did you do, track record wise . It was quite good. But theres a larger point that we have coming out of the elections, which is that democrats lost the country because there was a failure to have big ideas. Big economic ideas. Whereas people like al franken, 312 hours ne bite by 10 points this time, one by 10 points this time. They won because, for six years they were proud, progressive the message to president obama at large is the time to pit bold ideas. Elizabeth warren, now a member of leadership on the Senate Democratic side. Yes, congratulations to Elizabeth Warren. It is really a thrill for her to be in their. She was the most popular campaigner for democrats in 2014. That is because her economic expanding Social Security benefits, making more affordable, reforming wall street, is popular among everyone. They saw her ability to fill beyond their wildest dreams, aand they want that was represented in the room. Do think part of the reason is given that position is because democrats were not selling that message before during the election. . Yes, absolutely. Been d, there has this election somewhat filled in with somewhat filled in with nothing. There was not an economic agenda that was worth the voters while. Their ability to have control if they went to the polls. You cannot motivate people with nothing. Elizabeth warren is out there with big ideas. Her colleagues recognize that, aand they want her to help the situation. So the list of big ideas what is on top of that list . Well, look, we have the Republican Congress right now. The worstcase scenario would be starting with the lowest common denominator ideas. That would just be horrible. To just also be that adopt democrats actually have a unique opportunity now, the ng the minority and in face of a residential election, with a bold d agenda. One of the ideas is break up wall street. Two, college affordability. Votes for her bill this congress to, basically, really billions and billions of dollars for student debt. Lets talk about free college education. Lets talk about making public universities truly public. Talk about things like extending Social Security benefits, instead of cutting them. This will change millions of peoples lives. Like the things employment act, which basically says that anyone who wants to work hard, the government will you jobs building bridges, working on the energy grid lets do that. These ideas are wildly popular, so lets talk about those ideas opposed to smallbore ideas and predicting what members of congress will agree to next. Was up early because obama that selling big ideas . Yes. Wanting president obama to adopt Elizabeth Warrens ideas. They cannot come down to one speech. Small who won by very big in last time, by margins this time, they expect stick tto their streak. That is what will motivate them to vote. Why do think president obama doembrace those ideas . Well, he has been sometimes catering to what washington dc wants. Our point is that bipartisanship is fine, it just to be made straight by partisanship, not d. C. Bipartisanship. These are ideas that democrats of and went on if they choose win on if they choose. Passed stion is, do just something washington for the sake of passing it . Or is it because you have ideas that should be passed into law . It is the lowest common denominator versus big, bold ideas. Our guest, adam green, the progressive the change campaign committee. The next alk about progressive ideas, and take your comments come as well. 2025853880 for democrats. 2025853881 for republicans. 2025853882 for independents. We will begin with dan in michigan, the democrats line. To make a just want comment about an observation i made while i was watching the senate for the other day. Mitch mcconnell had the floor and he asked for any questions from his colleagues. At the time, a couple people were not ready. Mary landrieu said yes, i have a question. His Mitch Mcconnell turned back to her, until a couple republicans were ready. I cannot remember the mans name, i think he was from north he heads up the the bill for the keystone pipeline. Mitch mcconnell totally let the led her, republican speak, and then left the floor with the rest of the republicans. That is an indication, to me, that the republicans are not willing to work with the democrats. Yes, i think there are a couple symbolic things about what he has done. People are watching Mitch Mcconnell, like yourself, literally. That kind ll continue of gamesmanship, aand the challenges for the democrats is to make sure that he walks the plank wwith that type of gamesmanship. Lets not let him stutter over between the parties to just do what he will on the senate floor. If democrats if president obama goes forward with some of these executive actions, and republicans want to use gamesmanship in the senate to that, good, let Mitch Mcconnell say very clearly to latino voters that he is that with them. If Elizabeth Warren was to make to make College Affordable for millions of children, and Mitch Mcconnell that kind of games, great, do it in open and to take that position. And let the American People decide whose side they are on. Richard is up next to the republican line from kentucky. That republican line is the key here. Am a lifelong democrat who voted republican for the First Time Since 1972. A while ago number that 200,000 some jobs were created my son has three of those jobs. My daughter has two of them. My wife and i, we had to change our doctors. Do remember that you can change your doctors if you want to . I will never, ever aand i am Union Construction worker i will never, ever vote democrat again. Okay. Well, first of all, i would be very interested to know your children, because them having three jobs is not what the American Dream is about. If you feel let down by the party in some respects, i think a lot of people are in your boat, including democrats. Im very curious on what you would think about raising minimum wage. In red states my guess is that if it were not benefit your kids directly, it would benefit your area. People in red states of america who support that idea. What i ind of stick to am saying, democrats need to offer big ideas that regular people by. It is a change that the Democratic Party has left some of them bbehind. We need to remold the party, the path ink that is to success. On our l is in michigan independent line. Go ahead. Im talking about your plans to d your destroy america what is your question . Government to eed control our country and destroy the whole situation of america. We need freedom. Freedom for the people. All of america, for the people. Agendas and communism. Thank you. We do need freedom. So let me tell you about one of the biggest shackles for them is student at. There are so many student debt. There are so many people who graduate college with thousands of dollars in debt. Good in ho want to do the community have to take a job at a big bank to pay back the bills. There is a big brain drain in the country because of student debt. I would hope at a minimum, you would support paying less for college. That is one of the big ideas were advocating for the Democratic Party. One of the things shackling us down is wall street winning over our economy. Wall street basically paying workers very little, shipping jobs overseas, really kind of polluting our economy. I do not know if you feel like side of wall e street, but democrats are it is not about to everyday middleclass families to have a job . Om go to a e freedom to college with a choice . Month, we had s jonathan cullen, and how a more can should adopt moderate agendas, may be concentrating more on tax reform and things like that. So, i think that the Democratic Party has to think on two tracks. One is, what can you do, really, over the next 9 to 12 2016 really heads up. Where you can find substantive ground with republicans. That is probably not going to be on the minimum wage, it is be on tax oing to reform, trade policy, energy are places hose where there is already wellestablished, bipartisan , ground. The second piece to what democrats into think about goes to longerterm message. In 2016, if y democrats focus on a prosperity and agenda, there is not throwing people in life preserver, but fixing their prospects in 2016 and beyond will be really good. If the party sticks with the that they used the same economic playbook they the cycle, even though a president ial cycle is better for democrats, it is still not good enough. Mr. Green. So, first it is important to know what theyre all about. The majority of the thirdrate board s Corporate Executives and people from wall street. The lion share of their funding comes from wall street, something that we actually just this past year wwe got them to admits that the majority of their money is from wall street. We also got them to admit that there is no grassroots on their side. It is just a corporate funded think tank. Not surprised that jahn would advocate for Lower Corporation tax john would advocate for lower corporate taxations. I would also not be surprised who he supports companies sent jobs overseas. You know, he talks about it that he talks that we shouldnt throw people like preservers. It is not about throwing a preserver, it is about saving lives. To make sure we have enough pay al security benefits to for peoples needs, a preserver them to live ws life. That is the choice the Democratic Party has to face. Whose side are we on . Do we side with the corporations, or do we side with millions of people . So the Democratic Party, when looking at wall street has that been enough in your opinion . No, it did not do enough. Gone back to y consumers and save the millions of dollars. There were some some like that. Reform the banks who are too big to fail before our bigger now. They are bigger and they will fill, unless you break it off some point and they will off at nless we break it some point. What we need is an outcry around these ideas. The fundamental question is, side are you on . Come s will be inspired to to the polls if they can affirmatively say, yes. This is chris from maryland. Go ahead. Yes, how you doing . Good, thank you. My issue is that the you y has not see how they cater to the republicans and i agree with all the ideas they have set forth. Of them is, unfortunately, is obama care. Gives millions of Americans Health and life. Think the last caller had lies that are not true. Obama care went to the congress. A chance to had present grievances. They chose not to. Thank you for pointing that out. A lot of e has helped people, and we wish it wouldve helped even more people. If you have the opportunity to, you know, and 1000, instead in order to that earn 100, you earned that. People to buy into healthcare was wildly popular. Around the time of the health there was a poll over 70 of about 60 of independents, and even 50 of republicans wanted a public option. Push that into law. Be pushing to through these big ideas. I saw present obama the day after the election give a what he said was the ok forward to hearing public governing agenda, and i the republican governing agenda, and i will offer the democratic agenda. But i will offer and when you think about it, it is very scary the way things could go we hear years all about is present obamas ideas going up against Mitch Mcconnell. To encourage democrats and i talked to incoming members of the senate and house they are ready to have a spine. Theyre going to push the Democratic Party to go in that direction. What we need is a contempt of you among the party that we are big, bold tand for economic ideas. We want Elizabeth Warrens image. Well be talking about victory at the polls. A couple tweets to give you for all hear, who pays these programs that you talk about . Lets start with the last one. Right now, Big Oil Companies get 4 billion in subsidies per year. Corporations that ship jobs overseas and have tax incentives to go overseas pretty much rabbit treasury of of dollars rob the treasury of millions of dollars every year. The loophole is how we pay for these programs. It is not a question of, do we pay for something . The question is, who side are you on, and where are you distribute in your budget . On the agenda for, this is a really interesting question. It is one of the greats we have with the Democratic Party, and taking bad republican ideas not fretting about them instead just into a rating them larger bill, stuttering over the ideas between the different parties and the different ideologies, and then tell the voters, hey, this is a democratic bill. Who wanted to help insurance mandates . The Biggest Insurance Companies wanted to help it. Not people. For people were of much for the public option. If you look at the stimulus bill, for some reason stimulus has a bad name now. Why does have a bad name . Of ause we took hundreds and ions of dollars republican tax cuts, and call that an economic stimulus. Surprise, surprise, that idea the network. That is why we cannot start with a lowest common denominator approach. We need to say we are going to take big, bold economic ideas that are wildly popular in red, purple, and blue states. If the republicans use the majority to shut that down, then fine. Well take that message with clarity into 2016 and we will win. On the from California Independent line. Go ahead. Are saying what you is that you think that the democrats progressive populist agenda is the way to go. It didnt work. Although, Elizabeth Warren coming out for in agreement concept of a party fail is too big is spot on. Be a think if you want to viable party Going Forward, to get my independent vote, i think you need to Pay Attention to that. The way i feel is that i am getting screwed on both sides. For that is because too big to fail is allowed to be there. Agenda that you that is way, way, way too copperheads of. If you just start to comprehensive. Just that with a financial system, Everything Else is start to fall into place. Thank you, gary. Ill accept that as a friendly amendment. Three start with the fiscal issues one of which was taking on the big banks. 20 popular. There are almost no no votes. You know, basically, there was a path for populists on the republican and democrat side people like yourself think you are getting it from both sides. What you really mean is the corporations have been funding our political parties, both of them, and as a result, exporting trade deals, lowering corporate taxes and stuff like that. You want someone to fight for you. I agree. Clive iowa, republican line, fill ip caller i have a question for the listeners as well as the guest the listeners, i want to give them a question to pose to progressives. The question is what does a selfdescribe progressive progress toward . What is the mathematical limit that you can say, we are now progressive. We have progressed . What does that look like . What does it look like with regard to private Property Rights and Everything Else . What is the actual goal of a progre progressive . You progress toward something at least to the point to where you reach it. If not, what does that look like . Thank you. Guest thats a great question. I respect the intellectual honesty behind t