Look for them to air in the near future on the tv on cspan two. Stop harassment and take your power back. Gretchen carlson is the author. Ms. Carlson what are you trying to stay with this cover . Guest to be fierce. To encourage all women feel like they been put down or subjugated in any way to speak up and have a voice. Its not just about harassment in the workplace. Its about any avenue in which women feel they havent been heard. It says early on for some girls going to school, some of on the college and have a huge problem with and we move into the workplace and many of us are confused and surprised to find out that we are not necessarily all treated equally there with equity and other areas and unfortunately many of us will also be harassed so the book is about empowering women in all aspects and sharing my life lessons and what happened to me along the way. Also, what we all need to do to join together to be fierce and to take back our power. Host it was pretty wellpublicized that you left box. Can you tell us why . Guest i can talk specifically about my case as i reach a settlement. But what really inspired me to write this book was that i heard from thousands of women across this country immediately after that happens and when i jumped off the cliff myself last july i had no way of knowing if there would be any kind of a safety net at all. What really surprised me was hearing from these people. They were sharing with me their own personal stories of Sexual Harassment and many of these women have never told anyone else. They felt like they could talk to me and they knew i would get it. They started thinking of the stories in my home office and there were thousands of them and i said to myself i have to do something with this. That was really what the purpose of the book was. Giving a voice to the voiceless. Whats amazing is that so many women have felt victorious and they never had their stories heard so many ways and they feel that the public funds that i took was a victory for themselves. Host i think i read in your preview 70 of women have experienced some type of harassment. Guest that would be a low figure. When i speak in thousands of people are lessened to raise their hands and unfortunately 2017 almost every single woman has a story. Its unbelievable to me. We think weve come so far and i have two children their 14 and 12 angela, i want to change this for them and i know so many parents across the country dont want to fathom the idea of their daughter going to work and having to Say Something like this. Its really about coming together and deciding how were going to fix this problem in the book explores so many different angles about how well do that from talking about how we need meant to help us, talking about parents take a pledge together to raise our kids with gender neutrality and power boys girls and boys. Theres a whole chapter on the playbook of helping them navigate the waters that they do find themselves in in a situation like this at work. Theres a ton of information in this book about picking people up and saying enough is enough and will do something about it. Host you also report that up until the 1970s, the term Sexual Harassment potentially didnt exist. Guest yet, look where weve come in society. We made Great Strides with regards to civil rights and with the quality of women but we still have work to do. When you look at it from that perspective you say its 2017 and yeah, we have made progress but what i found out is that we still have so much more to go. One of the biggest issues is the mess that surround this issue of Sexual Harassment. What we need to really get past is when women finally get together, come forward and Say Something about why are they penalized and what i found out was the majority of women who actually find that strength to do something about it in many cases, and up getting fired, the perpetrators and stay in the workplace and the women never go back to their field or profession. Thats wrong. So, we need to get rid of the mess that if you speak up youre a troublemaker or that youre trying to cause problems and you dont get along or you cant take a joke. We need to celebrate the women finally have strength to come forward and try to eradicate this myth that is still out there. Unfortunately, its hard to believe but its deftly still out there. Host you also report that women almost feel guilty because of that. Guest yet, because in some ways women are still raised to feel like they are to blame things that happen in our lives, even things that are out of their control. So much of this book is how women shouldnt feel guilty anymore. A lot of us are raised to be producers and were raised to be perfectionists and while that has been handy for me in my life as far as accomplishing goals that i set my mind to i like to call myself a recovered a perfectionist and im trying to teach myself transfer kids, specially my daughters, to not be a perfectionist. Youre setting yourself up for failure. We all make mistakes and thats when we learn from our failures. Especially on the pleasing side, that inhibits some women from having a voice, from being able to afford because they dont want to make any waves. So, that goes to the parenting chapter of how we can try to raise our kids to not be that way. Host what constitutes Sexual Harassment . Guest its really comehither. Im the first one to say that i am not a lawyer so i dont want to get any legal advice but its unwanted suggestions or advances that is actually two kinds of Sexual Harassment in a hostile Work Environment or quid pro quo which is basically mean that your asked to fill some sort of sexual obligation to keep your job or get a promotion. So, i explained all of this in the book and consulted legal experts so that people could get the knowledge that they need while reading the book but it comes down to the objectives. Whether or not a woman or man feels as if theyre in an environment that doesnt feel comfortable for them in the workplace. Host did you hesitate before you jumped off the cliff . Guest yet, i talked to sensibly about my feelings other than the most important thing for me was my children and making sure that theyre okay in all of this. Host when the final copy of this book comes out in october, will it include some of the women that you heard from . Guest extensively. It will include heres the interesting thing, i interviewed workers, wall street bankers, politicians politicians were currently serving and being sexually harassed, doctors, teachers, it runs the gamut. That was what was astounding to me. It isnt just in a couple of professions. Its everywhere. I think thats why so many women have felt courageous and hearing my story because mine was so public and maybe theres never was but again, they felt that power in my voice and they felt the victory that they might never have had. Host people stop you on the streets. Guest they do and in my unscientific study in new york city actually more menaced on me than women. I take great pride in it. Host what would the men talk about . Guest most often they would want to shake my hand and say thank you for doing this for my daughters or my granddaughters or my niece. If men have children, specifically daughters, they are very grateful because it goes back to what we talked about earlier, who wants their child to eventually go through Something Like this was like no one wants that. Thats why we all need to be invested in this issue. Host you opened this interview and this is just a preview of the book in october but go back to minnesota and shut the hell up, gretchen needs to let it go, she brought it on herself. Grow up, move out, stop whining, youre a dumb old, never as been, hope no one hires you think. Et cetera et cetera. Guest my twitter feed and my facebook posts yeah, it comes with the territory. Host is it hard not to take it seriously chris mike. Guest well, you know, but luckily for me i developed thick skin a long time ago and also in my past resume of life i was mse through that experience it was my resume of being valedictorian and graduating from stanford so i that was illustrated and i was also a classical violinist. I had to learn early on when i was 22 years old house suddenly people attack you and dont like you for no apparent reason. I remember going to my father insane dad, coming from minnesota which you understand the minnesota night thing, why do people not like me just because . He gave me advice that i think about every day. Its been helpful this last year which is you try to accommodate as many people as possible and you keep trying with those but in the end, if they dont decide to come to your side you have to let it go. That advice has been paramount to my life in the last year. I dont expect to please everyone with what i did or what this book but i do know that im going to empower thousands of others who want to learn more about this issue want to have their voice heard. Host you refer to yourself as a recovering perfectionist. What is that mean . Guest i thought i was gonna be recovered at 40 and that kind of happened but i recently turned 50 and now im on very proud to say that im on the road to recovery. I think its important to achieve as much as possible in life and that takes great and determination and that fighting spirit and yes, perfectionism but it can also lead to a tremendous amount of unhappiness because no one is perfect. I think we should celebrate our mistakes a little more in this world, especially with our kids. Stop giving every kid a trophy and make them learn something. Make them fall on their face. When you get into the real world, you have to know how to handle yourself when mom and dad are not around. So, perfectionism, and proud of it. Host gretchen carlson, be fierce stop harassment and take your power back comes out in october of 2017 and this is a preview on it but tv is meant to. But tv recently visit capitol hill to ask members of congress what they are reading this summer. There is one book that i am reading now and i just about finished is sebastian youngers book called tribe. Hes the author of perfect storm. I chose is a book about ptsd, reintegration of our veterans back into society so is a great book. I recommend that you read it. I serve also as a cochair of the literacy caucus here in washington and one of the things that i encourage everyone to do is read the summer obviously, we read a lot of boring things here in washington, papers and policy papers and all that but just for fun this summer im going to read david baldacci, im about two bucks behind and i read every book that he has ever written and im starting with his first one and have never given up on him. Hes a great writer and also im going to read the introduction book. Andrew jackson was the first person to hold my congressional seats. In tennessee, where i live, the district i live in had two president s and one of them is Andrew Jackson and andrew johnson. 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