Present when you are talking about the president marking the vote and there were 41, not 40 soontobe 42 when we vote on this mark i understand what you say about him having signed them but that still does not take away the fact that it is a signature piece of legislation that came from this president and those that supported it and its not likely that he is going to change his mind in that regard. That is what i dont see or hear and principally what i dont see is an alternative. The question that i have is what your Republican Study Group a year ago or a year and a half ago repeal and replace and repeal and replace used to be the mantra and now the mantra is defund. I ask you, do you and the study group have a plan or would we go back to the status quo . Absolutely we do have a plan. Let me get this plug. We officially unveiled our alternative called the American Health care reform act. The Republican Study Committee has would endorse this bill to comprehensively address the problems in health care. [inaudible] we are seeking cosponsors but we have a number of doctors in congress. I will send you a copy. This is the first time im hearing this. It allows people over state lines and allows medical malpractice insurance and we make sure that people with preexisting conditions cant be discriminated against and protect the lives of the unborn. We allow tax equalization. If you buy Health Insurance that sounds like obamacare. None of that is obamacare. There are few options and they are higher costs. The condition is something that is part of that. We work through existing highrisk pools instead of creating basically a mandate that has resulted in higher Health Insurance costs for everybody. Thats not a solution. They are higher now. We want to Lower Health Care costs and give families more options and that is what i will absolutely give you a copy and i would love to have you as a cosponsor. It will surely fix the problems in health care. Better than that i would love you to beat bipartisan and cross lines and let me be part of your Republican Study Group. I dont know if you would agree with a lot of things that we represent. I will work on you and i will have to switch card that will be available as well. I dont think its beyond reach. When ships are passing in the night there is not likely to be a compromise. I am an optimist. We are open and we think there were way to do Health Care Reform is to include all the good ideas from people of both parties. Clearly that didnt happen with the Current Health care law but it is achievable and we lay out a lot of those principles and we will be happy to give you a copy of that bill. Would the gentleman yield . Off course. If theres anyone out there that wants to shut the government down why didnt they do it for this hearing started . [laughter] i am speechless for the reason that i fully concur with my colleague. The gentleman yields back is time. Is there anyone else that seeks time . Is there anyone else that seeks time . I see a gentleman from florida is recognized. Thank you mr. Chairman. I just wanted to say one thing about almost two and a half years ago this issue was before us on an appropriations bill that we declined to make that amendment. I would just like to apologize myself for member steve king who brought this amendment here very briefly and we didnt make it in order and now we feel we are going to hopefully make it an order. I think he paved the way for this and i appreciate what he did. Thats all i have to say. Thank you. The gentleman yields back is time. The chairwoman is recognized. Thank you mr. Chairman. Isnt there a rule that the chairman is supposed to leave after 8 00 p. M. . That would be after 8 30. [laughter] the gentlewoman yields back are time and the gentleman dr. Burgess is recognized. I do feel obligated to point out seven of those appeals have been signed in law by the president that we forget the seven times the president jettisoned the own part of this law. People can sign up for that because you close the window. Employer mandate we know that was suspended and reporting requirements for Small BusinessHealth Exchanges wont be open until 2015 said they were delayed by a year. The deadline for insurance contracts to be in hand by october 1 that was delayed and then the administrator of the medicare and Medicaid Services promised me at the end of july that all of the rates in states like texas where the federal fallback exchange would be set up would be available on september 15. Mr. Chairman we are going the wrong way from september 15 right now. This amendment is absolutely critical for our country right now and i thank the gentleman for bringing it and i yield out. The gentleman yields back is time. I want to thank both of you for taking time to not only prepare yourself by sitting in here probably for several hours before we got to you but to represent ideas of both of you strongly believe in that will make our country stronger and better and will better allow you to represent your constituency. I hope it will work well enough where you will want to come back at a future time with the knowledge that we care a lot about the ideas which you having can present to this committee. You are now excused. Thank you very much. This now closes the hearing portion and i would acknowledge to our members that we have now to rules that we will consider before the rules committee and i would ask for a motion. I remove h. R. 687 the Southeast Arizona Land Exchange and conservation act from 2013. The rule provides one our general debate divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the committee on Natural Resources and consideration of the bill. It makes it in makes it an order its original text for the purpose of the amendment and the nature of a substitute recommended way Natural Resources printed in the bill shall be considered as read. All points of order against the amendment in the nature of substitute. Only those further amendments in part a of the Committee Report such an amendment may be offered only by a member designee and shall be debatable for the times specified an equally divided and controlled by an opponent and a punish up enough subject to amendment and shall not be subject to demand in question. All points of order against the amendment printed in part a of the report. The motion to recommit with or without instructions. Section 2 of the rule provides for the consideration of h. R. 1526 restoring health for Healthy Communities act under the structured rule. The rule provides one our general debate equally divided by the chair and ranking minority member. The committee on Natural Resources the rule all points of order against consideration of the bill. The rule provides the amendment in the nature that can substitute consisting of 113 two unmodified by the amendment printed in part a. The rules Committee Report shall be considered as adopted in the bill as amended shall be considered as read. The rule at all points of order against provisions in the bill as amended. The rule makes an order on those further amendments printed in part c of the rules Committee Report. Each such amendment may be offered only in order printed in the report and may be offered only by a member designated in the report shall be considered as read. Shall be debatable for the time specified in there for equally divided and controlled by the proponent and an opponent. Zhou mouth not a subject to amendment and subject to a demand for the provision of the question. All points of order against the amendment printed in part c of their port the rule provides one motion to recommit with or without instructions. Section 3 of the rule provides for consideration of h. R. 3102 the nutrition reform and work opportunity act of 2013. Under a closed rule, the rule provides one our debate equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the committee on agriculture to the rule all points of order against consideration of the bill. The rule as all points of order against provisions in the bill. Finally the rule provides one motion to recommit. You have now heard the motion of the gentlewoman from north carolina. Is there any discussion on the amendment . The gentleman from massachusetts. I have an amendment to the rule. I move the committee for h. R. 26 , 687 and 3102 open rules that all members have an opportunity to i just wanted to say with regard to h. R. 3102 im on the Agriculture Committee. There has not been a single hearing issued by snap at all on the committee. There has been no hearing in the subcommittee or full committee on the bill that is before us today. In fact the bill before us today could go to a symbolic markup and we find that entirely direct from the majority leaders office. Given the fact that cbo has made it critically or that a lot of people will lose their benefits here. We ought to have the opportunity to be able to allow members on the floor especially the Agriculture Committee who you offered amendments to this. Those in favor signify by saying aye. Those opposed, no. The nos have it. The gentleman asked for a recall though. Ms. Fox . [roll call] [roll call] im sorry. Ms. Slaughter, aye. [roll call] the clerk will report the totals. Three yeas, nine yeas. The amendment is not agreed to. I have an amendment to the rule. I move the committee make in order and the necessary waivers for the Ranking Member defazio amendment number 42 h. R. 6787 and amendment number eight to h. R. 1526. Those amendments are closely aligned. Mostly pretty much the same as the 8 royalty to pay abandoned mines. I think it would be very prudent to make sure we get that into the bill. So i ask for a yes vote. You have now heard the amendment of the gentleman from new york. Is there further discussion on the issue . Will now vote. Those in favor of the slaughter amendment signify by saying aye. Those opposed, no. The nos have it harriet the amendment is not agreed to. Further discussion . Ivan amendment to the rule. I move the committee give rule to h. R. At 3102 by mr. Connolly and number two prohibit members of congress to receive benefits for subsidies from many agricultural program. You have now heard the amendment by the gentleman. Further discussion the gentlewoman is recognized. I would just like to say i think it may look like it doesnt matter but there are a number of people on the Agricultural Committee and the Agricultural Committee that votes against foodstamp for poor people should not benefit from that. Further discussion . Those in favor of the amendment signify by saying aye. Those opposed, no. The nos have it. The gentleman asked for a roll call vote. [roll call] [roll call] the clerk will report. Three yeas, nine yeas. The gentleman is recognized. Ivan amendment to the rule and i move the committee make an ordering give necessary waivers for the amendment to h. R. 3102 by mr. Conyers and number four which would strike the bill and replace it with h. R. 3108. Extends not cut s. N. A. P. Benefits act. The bill provides a oneyear extension of the current 13. 6 increase in snap and if its for additional year and that temporary increase is due to expire in november. You have now heard the amendment by the gentleman from florida. Further discussion . Those in favor signify by saying aye. Those opposed, no. The nos have it. Mr. Chairman i ask for a roll call. The gentleman asks for a roll call. [roll call] [roll call] [roll call] the clerk will report the total. Three yeas, nine yeas. I have an amendment. I am tempted to read it real slowly so we have can get you to 8 31. [laughter] please note that i have extended an offer and also if you would like to join me. I met the committee make in order to give necessary waivers for the amendment to h. R. 3102 by mr. Kildee which would bring healthy food to those with limited access to fresh fruit and vegetables through a publicprivate partnership. The amendment increases funding for snap programs for fresh fruits and vegetables by 5 million a year which is offset by the increasing the adjusted gross income limit for certain title i and title ii programs. This seems to be something there may be some that would not believe that children dont have apples and oranges in our country but i just mentioned apples and oranges. I guess i need to say grapes cranberries. Trying to touch everybody. What if have you all got an oklahoma quest the government owns all their land. Anyway thank you mr. Chairman. The gentleman makes a good point as a point of discussion. I think its an awesome idea and i know the gentleman kildee wants to further work through the committee and i would say at this time i would offer resistance and would offer a no vote. Further discussion . Was in favor . Mr. Chairman i think the languages in the base bill. This is the Fresh Food Initiative and it was part of the base vote that we voted on the s. N. A. P. Program at the end of the summer so although funding levels may be different i think they baseline is in the base bill. I stand corrected. I just know that sounds like a darned good idea and i know that fresh fruits and that shovels are important to childrens nutrition and would be good for them. I will tell you that my down syndrome son excels because of fruits and vegetables a. Im not a medical bang on this but i respect the gentleman for offering that. Those in favor of the hastings amendment signify by saying aye. Those opposed, no. Mr. Chairman i would ordinarily ask for a roll call vote but in light of your statements and. Your gohmert and assuming that it is in the base bill if it is not then i will come back at another point in time. You are doing the right thing. [laughter] i was trying not to call names. I would hope that the gentleman would provide excuse me dr. Burgess. I would hope the gentleman would provide feedback. I see no further amendments or discussion. Those in favor of the motion by the gentlewoman from north carolinas signify by saying aye. And those opposed, no. The ayes have it. We will now move to and that motion passes. We will now move to the discussion about the manager of the amendment will be myself. Mr. Mcgovern. Mr. Mcgovern will be there and we look forward to seeing you on the floor. Thank you very much. Next we will have another motion prepared by the gentlewoman and the gentlewomans record nice. Mr. Chairman i move the committee grant h. J. Res. 59 the continuing appropriations resolution 2014 close rule to the rule rule provides when our debate equally divided and controlled by the chair and Ranking Member of the committee on appropriations. The rule waives all points of order against consideration in joint resolution through the row provides the amendment printed in the rules Committee Report shall be considered as adopted and the giant resolution as amended shall be considered as read. The rule waives all points of order against provisions in the giant resolution as amended. The rule provides one motion to recommit with or without instructions. Finally section 2 of the rule provides we shall be in order at any time from the calendar day of september 26, 2013 through september 29, 213 for the speaker to entertain motions of the house rules and that the speaker or its designee shall consult the minority leader or her designee on the designation of any matter for the consideration pursuant to this. You have now heard the motion from the gentlewoman from north carolina. Is there discussion on the amendment today . The gentlewoman is recognized. Ivan amendment to the rule. I move that the committee make an ordering give necessary waivers for the amendment by mr. Van hollen. Mr. Van hollen who is the Ranking Member on the Budget Committee would fund the government and nonsequester levels and levels originally agreed to in the budget control act. It replaces the entire sequester which will cause deep cuts to important domestic priorities and defense for fy2014. The savings for specific policies that reflect the balanced approach to the deficit reduction. Its exactly the same thing that mr. Van hollen is trying to get an amendment on for seven times and this is number eight. Our most vulnerable systems protect you from cuts eliminated agriculture direct payments and cut subsidies for and i would ask for a yes vote. You have now heard the amendment by the gentlewoman from new york. Is there further discussion . Seeing no discussions about will now be on the amendment. Those in favor signify by saying aye. Those opposed, no. The no votes the gentlewoman asks for a roll call vote. [roll call] [roll call] [roll call] the clerk will report. Three yeas, nine yeas. The amendment is not agreed to. The gentleman is now recognized. [inaudible] [inaudible] it i thought ms. Holmes nortons words here were very thoughtful and certainly were good to me. I dont believe that she or any of us are prescient and what the senate is going to do or what you all are likely to do when december 15 rolls around. I will make a prediction for you that this measure will go over to the Senate Either tomorrow or whatever day you all vote on it and it will come back next week without the scalise self executed language. And then we will likely cobble together whatever it takes to get it to december the 15th and then we will be around here december the 15th talking about being here until christmas the way we have done so many years foolishly in my judgment. But that said i hope that chairman rogers prediction or his desire and ms. Lowlys desire to finish the appropriations process accordingly is done and in addition that they are able to get an omnibus provision so that we dont have too continued to postpone what all of us know are extremely difficult and complex issues. But i thought ms. Norton will was the least deserving of having the measure and she began her discussion by saying that she would not ordinarily be here on acr and i made the continuing argument and will continue to make it that i dont think mr. Cool scalises language being self