Stephanie trussell. I have the pleasure of introducing charles. Love charles love is the executive director of seeking excellence. Im sorry seeking Educational Excellence a nonforprofit Whose Mission is to empower disadvantage students to reach their full potential. He is the host of the charles love show on am 560 the answer he is the cohost of cut the bull podcast charles is a scholar at the 1776 unites contributing writer at city journal and the author of now three books. The latest book race crazy comes out on tuesday. He has been he has his work has been featured in the New York Post real clear politics, newsweek. And on the Rush Limbaugh show. Yeah, he has appeared on fox news newsmax and various radio programs podcasts and local tv shows. He writes frequently on race politics Current Events and cultural. Issues and its passionate about Solutions Rather than political partisan bickering. It is my pleasure to introduce charles love. Hey, stephanie. Thank you. Let me adjust this because i know some say it needs to be louder and i apologize in advance because i speak a little fast. Is that better . Yeah, im a quick talker. Ill try to be slower, but i want to be able to allow you to ask questions and speak at the end. So what i want to do here today is talk about the book why i wrote it what its about who the target audience is and let you ask some questions and talk about that in the end. But before i talk about the book, i want to talk about how i ended up here. So i like many of you were just a regular guy going about my life seeing what was happening, but not really so concerned with it. And i wrote my first book as stephanie mentioned. I wrote three books, but the first one was just more like starting off as a collection of notes. It was after obama had won and my friends were talking a lot about politics and they hadnt done that before but what they were saying and i kind of like a history book this didnt really make sense. So i wrote the book. Its called logic the truth about blacks in the Republican Party, but it wasnt really an endorsement of the Republican Party because i wasnt a republican at the time then i was and now im not again well get to that but so but i wrote it because i said if you are a liberal or you have liberal ideals and you want to vote for democrats because they align with your beliefs you should do that is with this country is about but i didnt understand why they were believing this boogeyman view of republicans like they were out lurking corners in the out to get you so i kind of wrote that to debunk some myths that they were believing and you know sharing amongst themselves about republicans, but then i just went back to my life. I didnt do anything else and then i noticed the culture was shifting in a dramatic fashion, and i said somebody no ones really talking about this the way i think it should be talked about and so i said i got a busy life and wife and kids and a job like anyone else so if im gonna do this i need to be saying something that other people arent saying so i wrote my last book we want equality how the fight for equality gave way to preference and the point was we used to have legitimate fights and the best proof that things are better now is that people are manufacturing fights. Right, so i i take the things that they say and then i would say but is it true and a different approach that i take too, which is really important. I like many conservatives right about what the left does that i disagree with so ill say they say this and this is wrong and i do the same thing, but i dont do it in an attack mode, but beyond that i have a second argument where i say, lets give them their argument. So lets assume youre right. So now you cant debate me because im not seeing you wrong. So we both agree that always erases or the country is, you know, robin black people. Whatever theyre doing police are hunting down black men. So lets assume thats true. And thats just simply ask is what youre doing going to lead to a solution. Its that simple right . So even if youre right, were still in trouble because youre not doing anything. Youre not focused on a solution. You dont talk about a solution. And so that was the point of the book. So i was fortunate after writing a book meeting some people at five sixty got a radio show and i was the odd man out i was talking about cultural when everybody else on the station was talking politics, right and theyre like, well, why are you talking about this . Im i say its important. We all hear that politics is downstream from culture, but were only talking about the downstream right . So i just kept going about my business pushing on and you know, it was fine until 2020. So now George Floyds killed things, you know erupt and its an Election Year and its very partisan. So everybodys even doubling down on the political talk and here i am talking about the culture and when i wrote that book, i think i wrote it in 17. It came out in 18 and i was saying this culture is going to shift further to the left and its going to be incredibly toxic and about races probably in about five or six years is what i thought and to george thing just kind of accelerated it. So i got an opportunity. I had moved to new york. And so i love to show i was on here and i was like, oh, lets see what i do next and Sean Thompson who you all know had the opportunity to sit in for steve cortes because he went to work for trump. So i took over his show the liberty hour now if you ever listen to his show his show is all constitution and politics, you know cigar in one hand and the constitution in the other hand, so i was like, itd be great to do that. I was doing 13 weeks leading up to the election. The Election Year i said, but i like, you know, im building my own idea when my approach i dont want to shift. What do you want me to do . They say well do the show the way you do the show. So here i am stepping in seans highly partisan political shoes, and im talking about the culture. So people were calling in and like well, why are you talking about this race thing . We already know what to do. We got the blueprint either from the Civil Rights Act and the movement right Martin Luther kings words or from the bible. You know, i love the my neighbor as i love myself solves a problem, but my argument was that that makes sense in its logical but youre not dealing with logic. So if youre not talking about race and theyre talking about race you lose the race conversation. Its like politics. Its like the schools. Its like Everything Else if if youre a republican and you wonder why blacks agree with you on certain issues, but they dont vote for you. Its because you dont go to the black community and all they hear is the democrat in that community telling them what you believe and let me tell you it aint good. Right and youre not there to defend yourself. So i just kept going along with the culture and i said this is whats going to happen the other piece because seeking Educational Excellence. We work on education. So i had a lot of guests on talking about how we fixed the problems in education and we talked about an issue whether its discipline, whether its the curriculum whether the kids the country as a whole sliding behind the rest of the world and they would all say i say get to the end. Its about solutions. So what do we do and they all say School Choice and i say wrong. And its not because im not an advocate of two school. I am and what i said was what youre missing and this is where i become president. I said what youre missing. Is that why youre in this fight and the other sides opposing you so its a fight youre fighting to get School Choice and we had to win in illinois. You have wins another places. Youre gonna win all over the country. Youre gonna say yay. We won this thing and youre gonna look up and find out that because you werent paying attention to the culture. Check this out. Youre gonna laugh because this was two years ago where youre gonna find is that those vouchers you get to go to these better schools. Youre going to be sending these this disadvantaged kids to schools that are just as bad at the schools. They were there to clean her theyre safer, but theyre teaching the same toxic ideology that youre trying to get them out of and look at what were doing today. Look at what the main argument is, and now i shouldnt say because its rude, but i told you so so now what so, you know i wrote i was writing about what was going on. George floyd was killed. I wrote an article about this. I think i called it white woteness about white who felt seek for blacks and theyre saying and they were speaking in extreme matters, and it doesnt mean that theyre not issues in the black community. Theyre not racism and races out there who you know think whatever they think or some things in the system that needs to be changed, but they were all absolute. They were like all blacks are being hunted down all blacks are are being shot in the street. All blacks are in the criminal Justice System and theyre wrong. Even if you think theres an issue, so i wrote this article and i was upset at the time. So i just started writing and this one just went viral and they picked it up and then the major newspapers picked it up and Rush Limbaugh. Read it on the show. And so then i said, okay. What is missing . How do i address this . So thats where race crazy came from . I wanted to talk about what i call in the book the Progressive Racism Movement and i always say dont put adjectives in front of the thing because when you put an adjective in front of it you change it right so you cant say social justice if you want justice you just want justice. Why do you need social in front of it . Its justice when you put social in front of its different, but this is kind of a play on that. I say progressive racism when really its just racism, but i call it progressive because in their mind they do the same thing. So the races from 1840 said i am white blacks are inferior. So we must separate them and we all say thats racist. And the guy today says well whites are inherently bad. The whiteness is being centered everywhere and we need to break that up and we need to separate that us the country from that and we need whites to admit that their guilty and own this guilt from 50 years ago. So saying that theyre genetically different is the same thing that the other people were saying. No, no, but its different because our intent is different. Were doing it from a good place. So its not racist. So i say okay fine. Its not racist. Its progressive racism. Thats what it is and i figured the two best examples i can use would be blm and the 1619 project. And blm, i wrote about first and i took the same approach. I said blm is wrong. I write in the book about how its a false premise are there issues . Yes. Are we being hunted down . No are the police just indiscriminately shooting black men. No, can you prove it . Yes, are there black people in jail . Yes, because you complain about mass incarceration. So i say, howd they get there . Because if the Police Wanted to hunt down the black man, the easiest ones to shoot would be the ones who break the law yet somehow they end up in jail. Why are they shot before they get there . Because no ones hunting them is simply not true. Now if you want to fix the problem, this is why its important because how you go about fixing a problem is dependent upon how bad you think the problem is if we think that yeah, we have a problem. Its not, you know taking over the whole country, but it needs to be addressed we can get heads in the room and we can think about what works and we can work on it, but if you think the country is wholly racist and its hunting down black people and killing them for no reason. Of course your solution is going to be the burn the whole system down. So thats why i point out why theyre flawed. But beyond that i know my target audience is really conservative to because i may say i agree with you, but i think you need to try a different approach and actually liberals and i know some conservatives dont agree with me, but i think there is a difference between liberals in the far left. And so liberals dont like republicans. They dont like most people in this room. They dont like your politics they disagree with you. They have a different view of government. However, they love free speech. And they dont like the fact that theyre being called races right now if you dont believe me go look up Brett Weinstein and and bill maher and and look at the things that they are saying, right . Theyre liberals. They didnt politics didnt change. They just like, you know, i was on your side left and now you call it in todays left. Im a racist. Its silly. So we need to talk to them we need and because the media is not on our side. We need more foot soldiers. Its not enough of us physically. Theres many of them. So if they start to go out and speak it, you know, makes it easier because they can talk to an audience that we cant talk to. So to them. I say i give them the argument so all blacks are being hunted. So we agree on that. So lets not, you know debate that what we can do though is say if thats the case. How do we solve it . Because the far left is saying burn it all down. Right, you dont agree with that in the liberals. Like of course not so why dont you join us in solving this cultural slide and this racism and then and its radical left and then, you know we can argue about issues after the fact so thats what i do in the book. So from the 16, i mean from the blm standpoint, i explained what they really believe because thats a george floyd was killed. We had people giving all this money people feel Bad Corporation signed on were gonna give new holidays, were gonna give them all this money and many people saw that and said, this is crazy. Look at how much money they get it and theres a problem. And wheres this money going . Im like we can look for that for days and i explained the book why thats gonna be hard to do kudos to rand paul if he can pull it off, but i doubt it, but and i talk about why in the book but what i say is forget about where the moneys going thats a hard fight. But what we can do is we can go to the people who are giving them money and clearly explain what they believe and say if you believe this after knowing what they believe and you still want to give them money by all mean do it, but i dont think they do like i dont think they know. That for instance the police. You heard the debate between defund the police and people on the right would say thats bad. Itll be itll lead to dangerous neighborhoods. And the people on the left said well, we dont really mean to fund. Thats just a euphemism. We really just mean, you know reallocates resources and give them some support and bring in some some social workers to help them go to domestics not true in their own words. We are abolitionist. We want to abolish all prisons jails immigration detention centers. We dont want police in school. We dont want security guards. We dont want surveillance kind of hard to you know, take those words out of context. But most people dont know that because its not on the blm website when i was doing this research for the book originally it was gonna be like debunking the blm movement finding out what they say, but i couldnt find anything. Anything. Im like, this is weird. So in doing research i found this article about a Group Getting a hundred Million Dollars over five years, but it didnt say blm the article said the headline said blm, but in the article, they didnt talk about it was this organization gives it to this philanthropist which gives it to creates the black lead movement bond, which takes that money and gives it to the movement for black lives. And so i looked up all the organizations and with you if take you take nothing else from this when you leave look up m4bl. Org the movement for black lives. I found it and it was a treasure trove. Its insane. They have acts that they have written that theyre ready to give congress once they move far enough to the left. They have a preamble like a constitution. Its all about, you know, all the things that they believe all the demands that they have and its anticapitalist. Its a reparations for migrants. Its lgbtq gender focuses. I think they use a word that they made up. Im good at it now, but i couldnt read it at first called sis heteropatriarchy. Multiple times in a book we stand behind we push to the front of our movement gay trans lesbian queer queer affirming gender nonconfirming, uh precariously housed cash poor all the stuff, but its not about whether you agree with it or not. You just have to ask is that Police Brutality . Because i thought thats what your movement was about. Right, its simple. So you say that to a liberal you have them read that you know, they might be like oh, so the goal is really baby steps. Stop read this stop giving them money. We work on the rest later. And then the other piece is the 1619 project. And this really bothers me. So again, you know the crt movement and i talk about the only thing i say in the book about crt is why i didnt write about crt. And the reason was mostly that the conversation surrounding that was really starting when i wrote the book, but it still doesnt matter because and im not against that fight chris rupaul writes a blurb on the back. So its not that i say dont have that argument. Theres different ways to attack a problem. But the issue is if you notice you watch the news, what do you hear you hear crt is terrible for our children . Were not teaching to crt. Yes. You are. You dont even know what crt is. We just want to teach black history and then you go nowhere. Right, they cant do that with the 1619 project. So i take three approaches why cr the 1619 project is more important than crt one. No ones going to tell you. Theyre not teaching in schools. The project was written at the end of the summer in 2019 by the fall that was in 4500 schools, dc baltimore and all of chicago had adopted it. So its in the schools. Theyre never theyre bragging about it. Its everywhere. You know, its in the school. So you lose that piece of the argument it falls away. Two in my mind, technically. Im kind of a literal guy. Its worse than crt because crt says, you know race is important and endemic to