Well, Andrew Albany is a publishers weekly. Thanks for the update on this case. My pleasure. Book tv will continue to bring you publishing news and new author programs. You can watch all of our programs sunday on cspan two and online at book tv dot org. And welcome to miami and book tv. Live coverage of the 2022 Miami Book Fair. Youll hear from authors on topics ranging from Foreign Policy to medicine and race in america. This is book tvs live coverage of the Miami Book Fair. And another. Day. Thank you. Steve. So, you. Got. Better. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, everyone. Im nyala harrison, an attorney at the Law Firm Greenberg Traurig here in miami. And its really my esteemed pleasure to welcome you to the 39th Miami Book Fair. Were grateful to the Miamidade College family and the hundreds of volunteers that make this all possible. And for the support of the green family foundation, the batchelor foundation, the meredith and diasporic foundation, aarp, greater miami and the beaches visitors bureau, university of miami, south motors. Leslie miller, saints. The Frederick Deluca foundation and all of the other sponsors. Id also like to take this moment to thank our friends of the fair members. Are there any friends in the room. Good to see you all. Friends receive multiple benefits during the fair week and all year round while helping us to sustain south floridas vibrant community of readers and writers. Please consider a friends membership for yourself or gifting one to a friend at the end of the session. There will be a time for q a and the authors will be autographing books outside a kindly ask you to silence your cell phone at this time. Its now my pleasure to introduce the introducer who we have this evening, who is with the herald. So, amy driscoll, who is an editor at the herald and welcome amy. Hello, im amy driscoll. Im the deputy opinion editor for the miami herald. Im really happy to be here today. Welcome to the Miami Book Fair 2022 taking place online and in downtown miami on the wolfson campus of the Miami Dade College. Ive been coming to the book fair myself for years, but as a Second Generation journalist, i am especially thrilled to introduce these next two journalists and authors. Tony dokoupil is a cohost of cbs mornings. He also anchors the uplift on the cbs news streaming network. Previously, he was a cbs news correspond tonight and a cbs news sunday morning contributor as a correspondent for cbs news, he has written about marijuana legalization, Digital Privacy and the second amendment. From 2011 to 2013, he was a Senior Writer at newsweek and the daily beast. Dokoupil koppel is also the author of the last pirate a father, his son and the golden age of marijuana, a memoir in which he documented his fathers exploits smuggling marijuana during the 1970s and eighties. Katy tur is the anchor of msnbcs katy tur reports. The author of the New York New York times bestseller, unbelievable. My front row seat to the Craziest Campaign in American History. Wonder what shes talking about. And the recipient of a 2017 Walter Cronkite award for excellence in journalism. In rough draft, a memoir, she writes about her eccentric and volatile california childhood punctuated by forest fires, earthquakes and police chases, all seen from a thousand feet in the air. Her parents pioneered what became known as helicopter journalism and became famous for their aerial coverage of events such as the Reginald Denny beating the 1992 l. A. Riots and o. J. Simpsons notorious run in the white bronco. Talk to her talks about her complicated relationship with her father, and she charts her own path from local reporter to globe trotting Foreign Correspondent, running from her past. She also opens up about her struggles with burnout and imposter syndrome. Her stumbles in the anchor chair and her relationship with her husband, rough draft explores the gift and curse of family legacy. Examines the roles and responses, villages of the news, and asks the question, to what extent do we each get to write our own story . Im sure the dinner conversations are fascinating. Katy tur and tony dokoupil. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, amy, as well. And get this microphone to work. So i appreciate all your being here. People who suspect there might be bias in journalism. I can tell you that it is 100 accurate in at least one respect. This is my wife. I think she is one of the most naturally gifted broadcasters on television. I think she is a graceful and stylish writer. I think she has one of the best ears and eyes for language and im so happy that you make me cry. And im so happy shes written a second memoir under the age of 40, which some would say is self indulgent. Because it brings me back to florida and to miami and to this book fair and this is where im from. I was here till the age of ten. Love miami, tiger bay. And we have great memories here as a as a couple. Last time we were here, we just got married. Lets say we were sitting here. Sitting here on the stage with we just been married and and there were stories, believe it or not, even up to i do that we had not shared with one another. And they were primarily stories about our own childhoods. And it was all in a book i had written. And she had yet to write this book. And i got the stories along with all of you when she wrote this. Oh, by the way, i might have come with some baggage i didnt tell you about. And so, katie, ill hand it over to you to introduce the book as you see fit. Okay, so this book, you probably know me from at least that first from unbelievable. And the book i wrote about the Craziest Campaign, which was my time covering lyndon johnson. No. Covering donald trump in 2015 and in 2016. And one of the Big Questions i got after that was put politics aside. How did you deal with that . How did you survive the campaign trail with all of the vitriol and the anger and, you know, he would go after me and why didnt you leave . You know, why didnt you go back to london where you were living . Why did you stay on and choose to keep covering it . And one of the answers is its an incredible news story. And how could you ever give up covering, watching history unfold before your eyes . But the other one is that there was something deeply familiar about about donald trump. And it was something that i didnt really know how to put into words, let alone give that an answer. And so when i was looking at writing the second book and and what i was going to write about, i it was the middle of the pandemic. And that question was kind of lingering in my head. Why, you know, why did i stay on there and the pandemic hit and i thought, well, what am i doing and why am i a journalist . So i, i really want to be a journalist. Am i, i working cable news . Am i making things worse or am i making things better . And if im making things worse, dont i have a duty to get out of this . And all these thoughts were spinning in my head, and it was a very dark place as we all were in the middle of the pandemic, wondering what we were going to do with our lives and i you know, im talking to my husband. My mom sends this giant box in the mail. And inside the box, its like the size of a microwave. And inside the box was a hard drive, like a giant hard drive. And it was so giant because it was filled with all of the videotape my parents shot in their 20 plus years in the News Business, every news story they ever shot. I mean, they shot some real doozies, like the madonnas wedding to sean penn, where she gives the bird to the helicopter, the Reginald Denny beating in the riots, the o. J. Simpson chase, all of the aftermath of the 92 northridge quake. Every Police Pursuit you can imagine. And then also all of my childhood videos. So they use the news camera like it was a camcorder and every piece of my childhood id was documented. And theres also some questionable parenting that was on the hard drive. So we it arrived. I think it was christmas time. And we, we sat down after the kids went to bed and we were we were looking at the tapes and they all out of order. And there was one where a horse had fallen into a ravine. And so there was a kind of an aerial rescue. And katie and her brother are in the back of the helicopter for a while. And then theres a cut. And then suddenly her mom and dad are on the ground and the kids are nowhere to be found. And we called their mother and we were like, what happened there . They were the kids were in the helicopter and then they werent. And she said, oh, we left you with one of the neighbors. We just put you on the hill. We came back. You loved it. They gave you ice cream. They knocked on a random persons door on a cliff and said, can you watch our kids for a few minutes . Weve got to hike down this ravine. So, yes, we went through i was showing tony and it was alternately, you know, me laughing and saying, look at this wild and crazy thing. And then youd click on another video and it would be something very dark and ugly and so i kind of seized up and i broke down and i thought the only way to get out of this, to explain to myself why i did 2016 and whether i should keep doing journalism, was to figure out where it came from and to confront the things i didnt want to confront. So its, you know, its hard, its messy, its complicated. Its also beautiful and joyous and going through it, it made me realize how much i love journalism and the job that im doing and how important i think it is for all of us to continue to have hard hitting journalists out there who are willing to to keep doing the job in the face of all of the ugliness that we are currently experiencing. Do you want to read an excerpt from the book . Because the book has layers. Folks, i would say if youre interested in stories of journalism, journalism history, and then also journalism of the moment, theres that theres also a lot of tough family stuff at the beginning, in particular, the first third of the book is a very cinematic, if you like, miami. Lets introduce you to los angeles in the nineties, in the nineties and the her mother and father built out of nothing. A full fledged video and helicopter journal journalism operation and just this sort of like american entrepreneurial ship. And its incredible as a story. But at one point, my dad walked into a Helicopter Company. Hes 25 years old. He still has pimples. Hes hes beside my mother, who is pregnant with my brother. And theres me. And he says, i want to i want to lease a helicopter. And the guy was like, what are you talking about . And he said, can i lisa helicopter. And hes like, well, do you have any cash . And my dad said, no, but i have this Business Plan and it presented the Business Plan and said this. You know, shes shes the camera woman pointing to my pregnant mother. And they were like, get the out of here. What are you doing . And he went into another Helicopter Company and did it again and managed to get them to hand over 1,000,000 helicopter to him. He had no pilots license, but he was he had so much chutzpah at the time that he went out. He convinced somebody at the Los Angeles Fire Department to teach him how to fly. And he used that license, along with my mom, to to cover news in los angeles in a way that nobody had done before. There had been a helicopter. It was called a helicopter. Ktla had a local station in l. A. , but they used it very seldomly. And it was kind of a it was a bit of a gimmick. And they said the city is giants. Whenever we get to a news event, its over a fire. The blaze is out and you really want to get the flames. A car crash. Everyone has been airlifted or ambulance out of there. How do we get there . Faster so we can see this happening in real time. We got to do it from the air and so they built this business called Los Angeles News Service and they changed journalism as we know it. And this is, you know, at first it was for good. You could see these things happening in real time. I mean, they captured some videotape that held authorities accountable in a way that they had not been held to account before. I mean, there was the chp beating the living daylights out of a group of migrants who had crossed the border. This was just a few miles north of san diego, just beating them just terribly. And that would have never been seen had my parents not been above it with the helicopter and training their camera on it. It didnt make them any friends. I mean, they could capture they could hold authorities accountable in a way that they hadnt been held before. But also, i mean, this is reality tv is news now. So we were they covered the first live Police Pursuit. If its not the first, its the second. And from top to bottom, a guy was a carjacking and a murder and they took this guy took the Los Angeles Police department on a High Speed Pursuit through all of l. A. Up freeways, down freeways, side street walks, curbs, just this wild video of this red cabriolet. What was a license plate . Cruel fate. Cruel fate. Thats where you fate. This is. This is the car you stole a crawfish. And so they captured the whole thing in real time. And the news director says 91 or 92. The news director had a decision to make, do i cut into a rerun of matlock, the station director, which did good numbers or and show this Police Pursuit or do i keep or i keep matlock on and and at the time he made the decision to cut into matlock which was a big deal. And it was a gamble. And the next day the l. A. Times was covering it, and they said it was a marriage of a tragic technology and technology and because they called the voyeurs voyeurism and it you know, it was the beginning of the era when you could carry events live. And it wasnt just an Evening Network broadcast where thered be a 15 second live shot, but there was ongoing rolling live coverage of an event where you dont know at the time you didnt know who was in the cabriolet. You didnt know what they had done, what their motives were. Theyre a good guy, a bad guy, and youre just a voyeur. Youre just observing it. Its context. Its its its without context. And of course, you know, you could argue, okay, its obviously a criminal. Its a bad guy. The cops are on the side of good here. But the principle of taking the coverage without any of the information is the same principle that goes into taking any kind of live political event without any surrounding kind of stealing the thunder of my point that i was going to please. I am a man and i like to explain. Our pillow conversations are a real joy. Anyway. So i mean, it was it was reality tv. The ratings came in the next day. It slaughtered matlock. It did so well. People couldnt get enough of these live pursuits. And so they started covering them more and more and news became sort of entertainment. Reality tv version of whats going on around you. And you can draw a Straight Line to that. Lets just air it without context because we cant take our eyes off of it too. The way that we cover political reality rallies with the way that we covered them in 2015 and 2016, where this is important. Yes, but its also it needs context. Yes, sure. But we cant take our eyes off of it. So lets just air it. Well figure it out later. And thats what we suffered from in that time. And its its part of how we are dealing with the aftermath of what happened in 2016 and the and the the way that it ate away at trust in journalists and journalism. And were trying to now figure out how to how to work back toward that trust. I mean, its very easy to lose trust, and its very, very difficult to earn it back. If i may interject. Yes, please. I youre 1 right about that big national story, but theres also a really good personal story about you and your rise and your relationship with your father. And so the gifts he gave you, thats actually a very moving. So i remember Mickey Mantle supposedly had a father who threw baseballs at him in the crib until mickey, a little baby mickey learned to put a hand up. And thats how you read a baseball prodigy. When i say shes one of the greatest and most naturally Gifted Television broadcasters, her father essentially did that to her when she was a little tyke. He would turn on the camera, turn on the microphone, and he would make her recount in live report or form. What happened during the day . Theres a video. I have it on my instagram. You can go find it of me when i was four years old. Maybe even last. Maybe. Yeah, it was for and my dad is the camera on me and im standing on the sidewalk with my brother and he says, give me a news report. And i look at him and he said, you know, like the lady on the news. And i look at him sideways again. He says, you know, like the lady on the radio, like knx. And it dawned on me and i said, oh, yeah, there was a fire in san diego. Oh, a fire broke out. And all my friends were there. And we went to a party at mcdonalds. But it was the beginning of of being forced to to do these live reports on demand. I mean, we would we would be in the car and he would say, give me a live report about whats happening on our drive to get pizza. And for a long time, it was very fun. And then it as i got to be a teenager, it got to be very annoying. But looking back, it was the best i mean, the best training for the job that i do now because i can i found myself in situations, in local news where youd get to a story 2 minutes before the broadcast. I mean, because local news is run, run, run. And they and they have been decimated financially. They just dont have the resources they used to. Please watch local news. Its good for everybody, but we would get to and read local papers. Miami herald. We get to story in 2 minutes. Before they would they would come