You can hear what we call the ringdown in the actual data. You can actually hear it shed away, and thats one of the things thats so stunning about the prediction that its a final black hole. Thank you so much for being here. Im a High School Language arts teacher, and i love to integrate science writing into my classroom, but i am fighting with my boss at the moment, and i was hoping you could give me the best line to say to him. [laughter] the issue is there is, of course, an enormous emphasis on s. T. E. M. Instruction in every school district, and i would never dispute the relevance and the essential role that has in education. In my particular situation, the higherups are stripping funding from Language Arts and humanities to fund even more s. T. E. M. Ive told him that you cannot separate science instruction from the importance of narrative communication. What would you add . Do you have a, do you have a thought . I mean, because, you know, so much of what maria does is a synthesis awe cross so many dis across so many disciplines. I think its hard to answer to a systemic problem that already separates science from the the rest of culture and the rest of knowledge. But one thing i think thats important for people teaching science and also for the administration of departments that teach science to communicate and to understand is that we live with these higher keys of information which needs to be transmuted into knowledge, which needs to be transmuted into wisdom if we are to get anywhere at all. And science is at the base of this pyramid. Without the curiosity that leads to the discovery of information and without the people who are able to draw knowledge out of that information and the communicators who are able to transmute that into wisdom, we would be primitive. And so i think making sure that this is understood, that its inseparable and that language and science together are how we move through that hierarchy of understanding, thats really important. I would also just responding to that say that its just very sad to take away from one to think that thats the way to do it to give to the other. Its like people who only have bread and water and saying we can give you more bread, but you cant have any water. And the fight shouldnt be between two essential aspects of human development, it should be that those arent the two things that should be competing with each other for funding. So its just very sad that one is coming at the expense of the other. Thank you. [applause] so how common an event is this . Is this something thats very common and we just got lucky, or is it widespread and we finally have the tools to start to detect them . So the beauty is you really have to observe the universe to know the answer to that question. So many people believed that black holes would not even be detected until 2020 because people didnt think that two black holes, pairs were monoenough. Now everythings common enough. Now everythings been black holes. There was three events, two were very, very significant. The first one that was announced and also on december 26th there was a second detection, also two black holes colliding, and it was beautifully recorded. And then theres a third event earlier in the data thats not quite as loud, so its a little bit noisy, so you didnt hear about it, but its this. So it looks like its all black holes. Its just amazing, were very excited. So the answer is much more frequent than we previously thought, which is fantastic. And if you think about it, you cant see black holes. You definitely cant see black holes colliding. The reason we think they exist is we see what theyre doing to their environment. But we dont see them bare. So these two black holes are very dark. Theyre not doing anything to their environment, theyre not tearing apart any stars, theres no other way to detect them. And so it means that theyre more populist than we thought which it might be the case that we detect black hole connections every month that lygos operational. And theres a really wonderful larger point which the book speaks to this question between what is unknowable versus what is unknown. Right. And when einstein first envisioned this, a lot of this was unthinkable. It was not known, and experiment is how we given to see that its knowable and that we have to keep looking. Astrophysics, to me, is so fascinating because its, it arises from the most elemental nature of reality are, but its so rife with metaphor for so much. Yeah. And i think we are, we did evolve under a sky that we can see. I mean, its part of our evolutionary process to be conscious animals that reflect on what else is out there. Its just part of our nature. I want to close with this beautiful line that you have. You say the golden age of relativity encouraged a day dream of a cosmos plentiful and unforeseen. Maybe the sonic universe will be as bountiful as the viewable universe. Lets hope. Thank you so much. Thank you. [applause] it was a wonderful and stimulating conversation, and we thank both of you for coming and being with us. [applause] dr. Levin will be signing books out past the elevators and around the hall. You can purchase them from books and books right around to the left. If you have a ticket for Tommy Hilfiger who is already in the house, you may stay in the room but have your ticket out and ready to be scanned. Otherwise, if youll please vacate and let our new group come in. Thank you so much for being with us. [inaudible conversations] and booktvs live coverage of the 33rd annual miami book festival continues from the campus of miamidade college. A couple more hours of lye coverage live coverage coming up. Youre going to hear from Colson Whitehead and susan flutie as well. But now were joining on our booktv set by author and the five host, dana perino. Heres her most recent book, let me tell you about jasper how my best friend became americas dog. A lot of people would take issue with you calling your dog americas dog. Guest i dont blame them. But i dont call him americas dog because i think hes the number one dog in america. Everyones dog is number one in their life. It was a nickname that was given to him on red eye which is a show when greg gutfeld was hosting it one night, he became americas dog because i share him with everybody. Host this is from your book. Just when it feels that we are so polarized as a country between right and left and we cant get along, remember that we have a few things in common, and for millions of us, thats our love of our pets. Guest its true. You know, 67 of american households have a household pet. Most of those are dogs. Not to disparage cats. And ive even seen that in my own life, certainly at the dog parks in washington, d. C. And now in manhattan, we have some rules at the dog park, and we dont talk politics anytime there. We just all talk about dogs. And weve made so many good friends and connect with people in a way where you dont have to talk about sort of the news of the day or any of the vitriol. Its just all about good fun. Host and these are people those are not two republicancentered areas guest not necessarily, yes. Host but you come in with jasper . Ing actually, theres so much understanding that our work lives are separate from the time when we go there. You know in your life every human being searches for those periods in their life where they can feel serenity, where theyre not worried about yesterday, theyre not concerned about tomorrow, but theyre just going to be . And so when i have a chance to go to the dog park or even if im home alone with jasper or even with peter, i should say, my husband peter, thats when i feel my most serene. Host lets show some pictures from the book. Guest okay. Host what is a vis la . Guest a lot like the german shorthair pointer. Those were, in fact, two breeds that were bred together in order to produce the visla. Actually in the after world war ii in the postworld War Soviet Union sort of expansion, one of the things that the stalin folks did was to try to demoralize people in hungary by exterminating the breed. And be up until then, the hungarians had been very reluctant to send any of their dogs outside of the country. But there was a small group of people who got together, and they figured out a way through an underground sort of system to get the dogs out, and thats how they survived. Host once you get attached to a certain breed, do you stick with it for life . Guest i think so. I admire people who have rescue dogs, and part of the proceeds for this book will go to companions for hero ares which is a group that matches up rescue dogs, mostly dogs, some cats, with Wounded Warriors. And they do all sorts of things. The vaccinations and a little bit of pet insurance and some food to take care of those first three months, some training sometimes if its needed. But, yes, i do think if youre a person that loves pugs, youre probably always going to have a pug or A King Charles cavalier, german shepard. For me, thats a veer la. Host your first book, and the good news is, talking about your experience as White House Press secretary and, by the way, were going to put the phone lines up if you want to call in and talk with dana perino, host of the five, former White House Press secretary, 2027488200 in the east and central time zones, 7488201 in the mountain and pacific time zones. But why a book about dogs . Howd you sell this to devil, your publisher to twelve, your publisher . Guest well, the good news is, thankfully, the first book was a success. Weve when i wrote it, i wasnt a natural long form writer, and my first draft when i turned it in, the editor on almost every page said more, more, more. So i take my assignments very literally. I work my butt off all summer, and the editor says, oh, no, now its too long, and i had to cut 10,000 words x. It was already very tightly written, and there was a chapter on dogs, and it was about 9500 words, and i said, okay, you can have the dog chapter back because it kind of didnt exactly fit in. But i didnt know i was going to get a chance to write another book. And sean said i think youre making the right decision, and i promise you that one day there will be a dog book. So that was the beginnings of this. Obviously, i wrote a lot more. And then i added the illustrations for this book because i figure that made it a little bit more unique. Host and jasper is posing quite a bit. Guest yeah. So these are an interesting story. You know, a lot of people are unhappy with social media right now because its so vitriolic. One great thing that came out of twitter is i met this guy, five fan photo shop. He is selftaught in the art of photo shop, and he would take pictures id post of jasper and put them into these different scenes. So theres an entire gallery in this book of his amazing work. Host what have the last five months of your life been like . Guest well, ive worked a lot. The election certainly took up a lot of time, and i got to be a part of not just the five, whichs the show i do on fox news, but also the election coverage so with bret baier and megyn kelly, brit hume, Charles Krauthammer, steve hayes, george or will, a. B. Stoddard, people ive admired for so long. We worked a lot of hours together, chris stirewalt, another one. I did a podcast as well. We worked weekends. And also it was just an amazing, fascinating story to cover. If you waited four hours, there would be a new storyline in this election. It was just so wild the whole time. Host whats your take on the result . Guest well, i think america spoke very, very loudly. The map looks totally different. Donald trump was able to do something that a lot of people, including me, looking at the numbers didnt think he could do. And kellyanne conway, the president elects campaign manager, said the cues and clues were there all along. I remember in 2012, i sort of bought into this idea that the polls were skewed and that romney was actually going to win, and that turned out not to be true, and i promised myself i would never do that again. The National Polling was largely correct. The state polling was absolutely off. And the wave of change that donald trump was able to achieve is quite remarkable, and the republicans keep the house and the senate. And a year ago no one would have thought that was possible. So now the republicans have this opportunity. I should mention its not just actually in washington where republicans will hold power. All across the country. In 2012 president obama im sorry, 2008, president obama inherited 62 state legislatures that were in democratic control. Today in 2016, 68 of those state legislatures are in republican control out of 99. So that is america saying we want some change. Now, the popular vote went to Hillary Clinton quite decisively. But in america you go by the electoral college, and thats why nate silver calls his web site 538. Host page 51, id never said in public what my personal opinions were before i joined fox news as a contributor or, and whiles it is somewhat freeing to do so, its a bit like walking on a high wire without a net. Guest yes. So i was a spokesperson for somebody else my whole career, so you could ask me what george w. Bush thought about the war or the financial crisis or legalization of marijuana, and i could tell you what he thought or how he came to a decision on stem cell research. I knew exactly how hed come to that conclusion. And i would say that i largely agreed with it. Then i get to be on the phi, and all of a sudden the five, and all of a sudden its what do you think about the legalization of marijuana, and i kind of choked because id never gone out on that limb before. And i really give credit to the fox news executive that gave me the chance and also my cohosts. They were really instrumental in helping me know that it was okay to be myself. And i think i also worried that if i gave my own opinion, i could never go back to doing sort of spokesperson work because then people would know. And i was worried about that. And i remember finally about eight months into it i relaxed and thought i dont want to go back to that. I like this new career path that im on. So finally felt a little bit more comfortable. But still if you give your opinion, you are the target of criticism. And before the target of criticism was somebody that i worked for. So it wasnt personal. Now its personal, and ive learned ive had to learn to try to deal with that. Host were you a nevertrump camp person . Guest i never said that, i never labeled myself that way. But i did make it clear that i was uncomfortable with a lot of the things that he had said. Now that said, i am very excited about the policy going forward. I believe that paul ryan and Mitch Mcconnell will be able to work hand in hand with the white house and create some really good policy that could do some great work around the country. So the next two years or maybe four, maybe eight could be really good for the Republican Party. Host dana perino, what do you think of the book tour circuit . Youve got a lot of people around here, youve already spoken. Guest well, i had a chance to go to lots of different places. Went home to colorado and wyoming, cheyenne, wyoming. Let me tell you something, if youre an author and you want to go someplace where youll have a great turnout, cheyenne, wyoming, barnes noble, absolutely a great place to go. There were 300 people that came on a sunday night to see me, and it was wonderful. Thats a good tip. Caller when coming to san antonio so i can meet you . Guest i would love to go there appeared to hear the riverwalk is amazing. Host is that all youve got . All right. That is pete and san antonio, texas. Have you found the nonfox regularly venture notoriety has changed . Yeah, and i would say in a great way for the most part. There are certainly people that dont like fox, but they dont come to your book signings. Host as a republican woman in manhattan, have you ever been harassed to be none of a dog with you . Guest no, i havent. People are not as partisan and person as they might be in social media appeared i also have this george w. Bush library jacket. I love to wear it and i saw Shepard Smith in elevator year ago and he said while coming above him. I said i do. I love him. I think people do a double take once in a while. There are more republicans and conservatives in big cities anything. They are just quiet about it. Speaking of which, george w. Bush has a new book coming out. Guest he has undertaken a project under the last couple years where he is finishing painting the portrait of 98 Wounded Warriors who served under his command. A very emotional and moving tribute to these men and women in a very personal way of thats not been done in the history of the world. That book will come out in february and i hope the tv is a chance to talk to him. Host linda and chesterton, indiana appeared no ahead with your question or comment for dana perino. Caller hi, dana. I love people on the side and mimic on how dog lover. I never miss your show and congratulations. Youre never in size including mine. Guest thank you. You thank you. You have a question as well. Caller know, wanted to tell you how much we like you. Guest im so glad i came today to hear that you thank you very much. Host so far this is an easy show for you. October 30th trend is that i feel adrift as republican woman. Maybe a woman at a party. I dont know if i belong anymore. Guest i dont necessarily think im alone. Republican women came to the party and voted in large numbers for donald trump. What i am trying to tease out in my own life, which is the case, which Ronald Reagan talked about the big ten. Maybe the 10 is bigger than i think it is. Im not making any sudden moves, but also i have evolved professionally for mbna spokesperson to being somebody who analyzes and comments on the news. I think people are more willing to listen to me and what i have to say based on my experience and analysis if i can not be seen as an advocate but as somebody who understands the issues can base my comments on something i experience on capitol hill are at the white house. Host is Manhattan Island when it comes to opinion and perhaps getting isolated a little bit . Guest you know, obviously i work at fox news i hang out with people of diverse opinion. Juan williams and i are good friends and the libertarian conservative type guy with strong conservatives are right now they would call the populace. My worklife is very much oriented towards talking about politics. Ive been surprised because when i lived in washington d. C. , your whole life tends to be politics. Even in your social life youre in politics and thats not the case in manhattan. And it took me a while for new york to grow on me, but it really has. I find it kind of refreshing to be there or you can be anonymous or you can be and as much as you want to be. It is a place i think that welcomes a lot of diverse opinion. I dont think its as partisan as its made out to be. Host johnson at harbor beach, michigan. You arent the tv with dana perino. Caller good afternoon. Guest high, how are you . Caller ensign. Conservative guy from michigan. My wife is her liberal and myself. To be fair and balanced, she makes me watch these liberal channels which i do. I guess my question or my comment is ive seen since the election that they just seem the other side seem to just scrutinize everything that donald trump does its not a good dating. I was wondering if they are just going to slam everything this guy does for the next four years. Guest well, i think well have to see. One of the things that has been unfair if they have to own a little bit of this. Additionally right out of the gate, and the transition from one of frustration to the next. They did basically move Chris Christiaan on a bear, put pants and then you had all these stories as saying at the transition was in total disarray. There was a little unfair. Barack obama did not even nominate somebody until november 28th of that month. Donald trump has plenty of time to make some good decisions. I think a surprise then that he met with nikki haley who initially was for marco rubio. And then you have met from a meeting with donald trump yesterday. Everyone just needs to settle into it a little bit. But the other thing as donald trump is able to speak to radically because of his use of social media on facebook and twitter in particular. So how the media covers that will also be a story and actually a story about how they cover it. Plenty of new coverage to go around. Im looking forward to the coverage of the policies because there is a lot of need air. Its not just slim pickens. Theres a lot to chew on and im looking forward to that. Host you mention mitt romney appeared here is jasper in the 2012 republican convention. Do you know that romney and what we should think about him being part of a Trump Administration . S. To the picture youre holding up as the first ever photoshop has poor talking about the mystery speaker from the 2012 election and no one knew who that was going to be an event that being clint eastwood. I met mitt romney. Yes im a fan. I give credit to donald trump for listening to people who are very much against him, but also to that romney for being able to go in may. I felt adrift at the end of october. Im willing to wait for a second because perhaps its bigger than we thought. Host next call for dana perino comes from zachary at long beach, california. Go ahead, were listening. Guest caller you said a moment ago you thought the next two years to be good for the Republican Party but what about the masses as a whole . An anchor when they take a political stand, do you think that is industrywide or do you think its not like tom daschle is able to be as White House Press secretary i felt fully that are not that most of the reporters and not Briefing Room try their utmost to be fair and i appreciated all the work they did. I knew they had a job to do. That relationship between a press secretary or the president and the press is naturally adversarial, but it does not to be angry or mean. It also can be mutually beneficial. Its a good point when you say the policies will be good for the Republican Party. You are right to point that out to me because im a person whos grownup in smalltown wyoming and colorado. Ive always believed republican policy and conservative ideals are better for the country as a whole. I dont want any republican policies just republicans. When i was a press secretary i never thought of myself as a press secretary or republicans but to all of the country because theres an rnc spokesperson and that is for the party work was done. Theres something exciting is about to happen as well. For so long, for the left and right osama seen as a treasonous act to come to the table to make a deal, to compromise. I dont think thats going to be that way anymore. In fact, one of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trumps agreements was on an infrastructure bank. The big difference, donald trump was spent twice as much money is Hillary Clinton. Thats not a traditional republican view. Paul ryan and Mitch Mcconnell might have to be pulled along to accept more spending, but at the same time come to a deal on Corporate Tax reform. I think chuck schumer, the Senate Majority leader will be willing to cut some deals and im hoping that both the left and right will allow both parties to come to the table to make some agreement to move some of these issues forward for the country. Host your first book on the good news is im a conservative because Everything Else seems easy by comparison. Guest xray. Free college and Bernie Sanders during the primary touch of a free college. That is the word is somebody has to pay. Those are harder things to come by. Host james is calling in from spokane washington. Go ahead. Caller i had to crash ends and one is a little bit offtopic. The second one is about jasper. So what do you think about the Supreme Court becoming political and that just really bothers me . The second question about jasper is as people become more isolated, and caring about something thats actually really important and id really like to hear what you have to say about both. Thank you. Guest the Supreme Court is near and dear to my heart. I was a spokesperson for chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito when their confirmations were being ushered through the sad. I was Deputy Press Secretary at the time and learned more about the quarter because of that work. Heres what i think about the justices. He saw this after antonin scully had died that you find out behind the scenes they are actually very good friends. Doesnt matter their politics. The court has a way of simmering things down and i dont think it will be as political. The process is super political. I think one of the reasons donald trump is able to convince so many republicans to go attend if they had reservations because they blew the Supreme Court would be a better hand if there was more conservative court. I hear your point of view it should not be political. President obama has suffered several executive action to feed by nine to zero and the Supreme Court now do we get someone else concerned. I dont think its as political when it finally gets to the court, but the process is super political. Your other questions about dogs. They spoke to companions for heroes is exactly that reason. Posttraumatic stress can make people draw inward. One of the things the rescue dog can do is help you get outside. I remember when my grandfather died and this dog was by her side and gave her so much joy and boy did she spoiled that dog. When you kicked around and have a bad day, ive met so many people. They never met, but you cannot advance social media. I agree with you. The only thing i caution people as younger professionals are anxious to get a dog, but it is important until you have the means to take care of it because the guilt can sometimes undermine the benefits of having one. Host did you bring jasper on tour with you . Guest i have a felt jasper. He got to go to the book signing to new york where he could drive around. I havent got to the point where i got one of those service stocks. I dont think i could get away with it. When henry by previous geisha flew from london to colorado when we first moved back and i was a total wreck. He was fine, but every time there is turbulent ive never put a dog on a plane again. Host michael in clearwater, florida. Go ahead. Hello, and day now. Im looking forward to dog sitting for my niece over the holidays. Of course i share your strong affection for dogs. I love their conditional blood and forgiving nature. Getting the extreme polarization taking place in the country ideologically right now, i was wondering if maybe both parties could learn a little bit from american, you know, mans best friend. This is in no way an endorsemeendorseme nt of the insane tendency towards therapy dogs on americas campuses. All kidding aside, do you think maybe petting the dog occasionally minded kind and a little more towards political compromise . Guest i dont know about political compromise, but i do know there are studies of scientific benefits to being a rabid dog. If you have hypertension, it is shown if you pet a dog, that will calm your heart rate. And also we know therapy dogs clearly work not just for Wounded Warriors but all sorts of people. We know there are dogs that can help parents who have maybe a child that suffers from epilepsy or diabetes. Dogs have that connection with us. I am all for utilizing dogs both as their companions and also medicine. I would also say if you feel like youve been ostracized from friend or maybe you can follow people on facebook because of politics and im not suggesting going back to back, but go to your local dog park and just watch and just watch the joy and reconnect with what it means to have this limited time under. Its not worth it to be upset about politics and dogs can help us get back to the feeling. Dana perino alcee of our producers paid attention in washington. I just saw on mr. Graham a picture of george w. Bush or more of bush with the local Animal Shelter for a fundraiser and came home with the dog. Guest eight months ago as the president bush and we were at a Barbara Bush Literacy Foundation event. One of the people next to me was Jean Rhys Jones and she runs he built the spca building in dallas and is top notch. I saw the president say to her, i want to combine into or the facility and we would get some good press for you. I said to him, you cant go to the shelter and not come home with the dog. I dont know if mrs. Bush was ready for a new dog or not, but sure enough he went and they got a new rescue puppy named freddie. Laura bush wrote that pats made the white house a home and that is why barney and miss beazley and andy dekalb are great in president obama and mrs. Obama had the most beautiful portuguese water dog. I dont know what the president elect is planning to have a dog down there at all. Doesnt sound like theyll spend too much time, but dogs make a house a home. Host when youre there, kick out the picture to show everybody on mr. Graham. When youre at the white house, did the dogs have free reign . Do they come by the office . Guest he was sometimes what viacom and their gross barney. He didnt like many people that the president. He loves the president. He was kind of grumpy. Postcode katzenbach strings, georgia. Youre in the area cannot paris now. Guest great. Thanks for calling. I just wanted to ask you to give jasper a kiss for me and maybe shrub mafia. I am celebrating 30 years as an Animal Rescue foster rob. Guest thats amazing. There are so many great ways to help dogs including if i had a house in the yard i would do this. Do you know that you can rescue or foster dogs while their owners are in deployment overseas . Theres another way to help the military. Guest we do that as well. Guest i think thats amazing and i look forward to doing that in the future when i dont live 33 floors. Host we are becoming more attuned or relaxed about having pets. Analyze, correct . Guest some people are surprised when they see jasper loves to go to the bank. You walk by a bank he knows. On the Upper Westside dogs get to go win and they have a treat for them. He can go into columbus circle. They just change the law in new york state that outside eating areas are allowed to have dog sitting there. Sometimes theres a barrier and the owners will say you can have the dog outside the barrier. That is not happening with jasper. He would be so upset if that happened. People are becoming more relaxed. If your business, great way to spend money. Host karen, North Andover massachusetts. Go ahead. Caller good afternoon. I am so happy that you wrote the book. I have not yet seen it, but i will read it soon. I was furious at two things quickly. I have worked with eric peete animals or children in schools and read would you say to be a good idea to have more animals to tamp down as far as bowling and maybe reading books better. The other question is what you think mr. Trump would do well to have a zoned out for therapy animal . Guest i think dogs are great for everybody. I have a say that every dog needs a kid and every kid needs a dog. It does soften your heart and teacher responsibility. It makes you have that is. Especially if you get a dog at seven or eight years old, you live with the dog until you go to college or beyond and theres nothing like that kind of love. You always know that dog is yours and i think the kids how. It sounds like youre more of an expert than i am when it comes to little children what they might mean. I think of course having dogs in schools, i grew up on a ranch and i think when it comes to allergies and things like that, being exposed to more things when youre a kid though im not a mom of a child or maybe im wrong on that. Having grown up im for more dogs and donald trump would benefit from having a dog because theyre also really good companions. Harry truman said if you want a friend in washington, get a dog. My good friend Charles Krauthammer said get to encase the first one turns on you. Host what are we looking at here . Guest my mom and i are on the first part is that as our, my first pet and he lived to be 17 years old. He died when i was a senior in high school. He had taken in. Hes gotten to the point where he needed care. The other pictures for my grandpas ranch. By kevin wade was one of our dogs. There was a lot of working dogs and my grandfather i dedicate the book to and he taught me about patriotism, dignity and a love for animals. He taught us to never, ever let them suffer. When i write about the passing of henry, our first dog, i have to say i was the stronger of the two of us. Peter was collapsing and died. Host your husband . Guest yes, peter. We walked in the room and they were going to bring henry in. We were distraught and that that comes in without henry and he said he passed away as soon as he walked into this room. I really think he was waiting for us to say goodbye. Host audra, pensacola, last word. Caller i just want you to know that you bring to convert every time i watch you on fox five. You seem to be the grownup as to the time at the table and i enjoy a little bit of my