Different. Afterwords airs on booktv every saturday and sunday. You can watch all programs on our website booktv. Org. A ton of things happening that are affecting our politics. You know . The way that things get changed in this country, there are many, many ways. My favorite example is since we are in new york everyone is probably familiar with governor andrew como and how hard he fought against raising the minimum wage until the moment when he decide he wanted to take credit for it. It wasnt his idea . No, it wasnt his idea. You had a movement there that started in new york, that started the first fight for 15 protest i went to was right down the street from here. And he was under investigation and was looking for friends. But these things work and we now have an increase in the minimum wage that will eventually get to 15 an hour for the city and most of the state. Something that was unthinkable even two years ago. Right. Right. And yesterday was the fifth anniversary of occupy wall street and people are like where did they go and i am like they are all over the place. I just saw four or five of them at the Standing Rock protest and that pushed the administration to put a temporarily halt and the protesters are still going and looking down to equipment because the temporarily halt is fought a win completely. You can watch this and other programs online at booktv. Org. Cspan where history unfolds daily. In 1979, cspan was created by americas Cable Companies and brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. Afterwards is next on booktv, this week, emerys westacott explores the history of frugali frugality in his book and interviewed by michelle singleta singletary. I am so thrilled to be talking to you about your wonderful book, totally enjoyed it. I would like to start by asking you the simple question what is frugality . Well as i say in the book,