Very briefly, mr. Trump is kind of rising these people with White Nationalist movements being quite decisive and moving quite far to the right. [inaudible] thank you gave trump did not come to the u. K. He came to u. K. Looking for a business cointerests. And was asked a question gave a comment. Rather different in terms of scale to what obama did. Look, i know that since the referendum, you know, theyre one of two people who behaved very badly towards foreign people in our country. They are in any society, some element virtually everybody see with number and absolutely nothing ive ever try to do to inflame that i make it worse. I think what the european project has done by taking away Peoples Democratic right, by willfully trying to get rid of their National Identities that no one recognizes. Why do we have and Neonazi Party . They call themselves may not see. Why are they the third Biggest Party now increase . I will tell you why. If you take away from people that democratic rights, they will move towards the extremes of right and left politics or perhaps even towards violence and direct action. I genuinely believe that getting the democratic nationstate, not only europe guaranteed through doing that, but that is the way we stop. To wrap up on a more upbeat note, almost every other note is happy for me and not me. I thank you for coming. Behind us is the cuyahoga river, with the dark days of pollution in america once actually started on fire. There is a burning record. And shed one and let me know how it is. Thank you. Caught im sure im [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] i want to introduce you to our panel. Kevin madden is a longtime republican strategist activist, smart guy. Any reporter i know would call cap in that purity is a product of kneejerk city. Its a fan of the Football Team in ohio somewhere. He started with the house republicans, worked for john boehner, worked from that romney is president ial campaign ,com,com ma the last ive heard here. Thats the one that didnt take off. Kevin is also the father of three sons and i can attest from the video that one of them has a of a backswing. Jamie south is our Political Correspondent for South Carolina. She has been there he started the rock hill herald, in upstate South Carolina, also mcclatchy paper. She is covered in South Carolina politics from senate races, president ial primaries. She has covered the Charleston Shooting last year, the Confederate Flag controversy. She is one of them must follow political reporters in the key primaries. Jamie south who is in twins, both boys. Jim mauro, veteran Political Correspondent for the Charlotte Observer has covered colorful characters and jesse helme to john edwards. Anything that happens in cleveland is just not a surprise to him. He has seen it all. A lot of great battleground elections in North Carolina for the presidency. A native of chicago like myself. A father of two sons. You are too, you work too and i have three sons. So if two and have two and have for cents on a twofold basketball teams. We need one more for the football squad. We will talk about what nigel farage had to say. Just to start up with what our guests had to say, did any of them strike is being illustrated and do many of us point to what will happen in the next four months . I think a lot of people overanalyze brexit and try to turn it into the united case with this particular election. While there are some parallels, it is not perfect. For sure, this idea that a lot of the elites in washington have entries that are not consistent with the folks out there struggling with the daytoday frustrations of the economy and also worries about National Security and the impact on their daily lives. I think will be seen and trump has six weighted base to visit vantage inside the Republican Party, we will see how well it works in the general election. We have exploited this growing canyon between folks in washington and frustrations we have every day around the country. That is one of the similarities that i thought mr. Farage had pointed out in this election. I think we saw that in South Carolina, too. Trump won her primary with 32 of the vote. If you were on the ground during the Campaign Company public trump rally with dozens of people filling arenas and the other candidates we thought would go further just didnt. He sort of caught everyone by surprise, did a good job of redefining who these candidates were in redefining himself as the guy who spoke to the people. I definitely think that the surprise of the brexit is very similar to the surprise of trump success, especially in early primary states like South Carolina. I think that he was right on about the disconnect between the establishment and the people and he brought a lot of new voters to the Brexit Campaign and in the Bernie Sanders campaign in this country. Theres also lots of nationalism involved in both campaigns. You talk about making America Great again with mr. Trump and they talked about making britain and ireland again. There is still a lot of the same sort of Forum Threads that i think people respond to. This seems to be a great interest among republicans. Not just some of our guests, but he walked around the suite last night and he couldnt get out of bed yet the number of people who wanted pictures and wanted to shake his hand. Its kind of a hero, at least to the right. I want to talk about the convention and particularly Reince Priebus called the autopsy and why they cap losing elections. They couldnt win minority votes come hispanic votes, women coming young people, all the things growing, republicans had to do more together. I like to ask and talk a little bit about how much this appeal of trump to the Disconnected Group of people is also the scene of phobia that, turning off the same groups they need to win. Yeah, well just going back to the autopsy, dallas that they with two of the Main Findings in a worthy idea that first we had to find our party by what we were against rather than what we were for. If we were going to reach out to the fastest parts of the electorate, were going to have to reach out beyond our base if we were going to once again win a national election. One of the interesting parts of trumps appeal is that so much of what he talks about is what is again in what people should be afraid of. Some of the anxieties that they have are things like wage stagnation or immigration and that hasnt been enough really about what he could do differently other than build a wall. As a result of that, we now have an electorate that we are going to see the shared the percentage of white voters probably drop and we will see the share of minority voters and hispanics, africanamericans grow and we have nominated a candidate who has like 17 unfavorable ratings but that part of the electorate. So that is why you see so much resistance inside the Republican Party to the trump nomination. This has not been one of the problems right now with the convention is the conventions as the onehour pageantry. They are performance. Part of the pageantry is to put on a unified face for the country so you can go after persuadable voters. I think it has been hard right now to say we have successfully banished unity and we have spent more time going after persuadable voters than we have rallied base. I think that its going to be a challenge for the next two days. We have to reduce to do this. How much of the same in this convention dry and then more hispanic voters, African American voters, women. Publicly zero. Havent seen any of that. The autopsy seems like a document of a lot time ago. You know, as far as broad and reaching out to groups like hispanics, we see mr. Trump almost go out of the way to do the opposite. I dont think you have heard a lot about appealing to those groups on the podium so far. You know, there is one person who is missing who had been a star in the gop. That is Governor Haley of South Carolina peaches are first Indian American first female governor. We also have neither of them taking the big podium. Hayley was offered a spot, but she declined. Shes keeping it low profile. Of course she was on the stage in 2012. That is definitely a shift. Her absence is probably noticed and phelps given her clout and the rga and nationally as a republican. Thats a big opportunity to talk about the big ten. One of the strategies rather than using emerging stars like Governor Haley to appeal to a wider audience, the strategy has been remind people about the opposition and how dangerous the opposition and office could be. Thats why you saw so much of a focus the first few days on why people the dangers of a Hillary Clinton presidency is. Thats the way a lot of these folks bring together an energized them. Has been overwhelming rhetoric about Hillary Clinton going to prison and things like that. Im curious, do you think this is reaching beyond this group of 2400 people to the people out of North Carolina, florida where theyve got to win some elections. Are they reaching any of the middle . I dont see how right now. All of the messages appeal to the base right now. They are getting chewed unity grudgingly, slowly. One delegate from North Carolina fact yesterday. He said in the paper that trump is a danger to america and he became very quickly hes out of here. They are still working on the unity theme within the party, but beyond that i dont see any. The delegation reporters for mcclatchy particularly in the battleground states have found these delegates arrived pretty split if not dubious since the goal about what is going to give not only against Hillary Clinton, but their own elections this fall. Is that still the sense that we are halfway through the convention . I talked to some ted cruz stance, some who are very skipped the goal of donald trump. I talked to one of our delegates who has said a few times that he think trump is really a democrat. We have a couple delegate that are of that persuasion. At the same time, what im getting us a sense of a lot of talk about how the delegation needs to come together, how the party needs to come together. Talking with marco rubio appeared yesterday she said when the roll call petition pass before her, she said get that out of my face. Not interested. If you want to win the white house we have to stop this right now and get together. I do get the sense that for a lot of South Carolina delegate who are running for those not be for anyone not donald trump would have a chance to be the nominee, a lot of them are staying trump wasnt my first choice, but weve got to get it together now if we want to be clinton. Let me ask you this. Ive been to a few conventions over the years. Jimmys band revue, cap menu and backstage with a few. How does this stack up in terms of how choreographed and disciplined and organized it is . Well, i would say these are always reflections of the candidate and in this sense there is a level of disorganization right now because of that. This is a campaign coming together on the fly. There are people on this campaign in senior roles right now for three weeks ago were not. Thats very different from campaigns of all work done for you essentially have people working for sometimes two years or a verdict on previous campaigns together. The sloppiness of citing published for the second night. It is reflective of a level of disorganization trying to figure it out as they go. I was just going to say i dont think the campaign got the headlines that one of the next day with the subject matter on the morning talk shows today was all about plagiarism that we saw on the floor on monday. I dont think the campaign or the party necessarily wanted any of that. The story about taking not just passages from someone else, but iraq obamas wife. That story has stayed pretty long. I really dominated the whole day of media. It was largely self and looked at the moon. The bar for criticism of spouses and family members is very low. When candidates husbands go up and deliver speeches, they are usually not prone to a higher level of criticism or scrutiny. I think the same goes for children. So to make a mistake that actually generates controversy takes almost after and i think oftentimes the impact the real positive impact you look for during a convention is usually the next day. Like what jim said as the headline, the atomized version of a speech that reflects very positively on the candidate because the people who know him best are talking about him. So that has been the real missed opportunity i think with the controversies we have seen over these two days. Its made up from a two or three hour is how the campaign responded. This is where you have to look at sng voters. People at home that are really strong. They dont care that plagiarism is an issue as more sympathetic. For swing voters, where this is a big risk as it becomes a reflection on the candidate himself to have evidence of plagiarism in the campaign say absolutely not. Theres no plagiarism. That makes people question how would you handle other instances where the facts are plainly in front of us. There was unrealistic and that did not happen when people can see. My Campaign Manager in 2012, but lets take our hit and move on. You can minimize these things but admitted some it was wrong, making a change inside the campaign, holding yourself accountable. Its amazing how you can reduce the level of controversy. The campaign has made it worse by the way they handle it. Social media has exacerbated. Yesterday the internet was full of names about what nobody had trump had said. That just feed. Talking with delegates and i agree that for the folks, this will not be in a big deal. There are a bunch of things i can remember. I dont know why the impacts they had. And then they taught a high level operatives in the party and what he said was he feels like this sort of mistake is definitely one that you can have voip into sending the signal to daughter said highlevel operatives that things are not going well inside the campaign. It may have more of an impact with voting the party moving forward. I doubt anyone will be angry or that its going to linger, but if there is disorganization that goes forward, i know we havent seen the candidate speak yet, but were starting to get a feel for how we will come out of this in all these battleground states. We are still waiting to see the Trump Campaign in our battleground state of earth carolina. The candidate has been there a couple times in the last month, but theres very little sign of an Actual Campaign in the state in terms of operatives come in terms of the people on the ground that the Clinton Campaign on the other hand have a lot of people already they are spending a lot of money on the air a lot with priorities u. S. A. , super pac. So far nothing from the Trump Campaign. Thats what we hear from a lot of the states had no trump cant paint, no operatives. No one to knock on the doors and Hillary Clinton has to be a Grassroots Organization to use your convention to get it bigger. Spending a lot of money. And yet, they are neck and neck in the polls or the national polls. What does that tell us about this fall . They are called battlegrounds for a reason because they are a battle all the way until the end. The big worry i would have if im a trump supporter and want to see him win in november is that when you have a place like ohio and North Carolina, florida, colorado, neck and neck going into the last 25 days, the difference they are his organization and resources as a form of money and volunteers. If you have a really Good Organization and a lot of resources and a very big volunteer network, it is worth three points. So if they are 44 d. Going into election day, that Organization Makes a difference. If you cant flip one of those states based on the map of 2012 and turned from blue to red, then you have a hard time winning. I think thats a big deal. We saw that in 2008 when the Obama Campaign had a major absurd and eight 14,000 vote win. When we were doing calls, every single night we were going out and canvassing what we believed were of the vote in ohio. If we did 1000 calls, it was 501 to 499. We knew that was going to be a tough race all the way to the end. Their organization, which was a little bit better than ours. Ours is very good and ended up being maybe a 70,000 the South Carolina delegation heard from the speakers that you need to get into your car and drive to North Carolina and campaign for republicans or else the party is in trouble. He said you are not willing to do that, then hang it out. I think that is what its going to be about building and getting people energized, go home and just work, work, work good bubble do that . What does he have to say to get them even more excited either about them or Hillary Clinton . Conservatives wan