Would ms. Miller have told you about a . It was a 2005 report and i just dont know what happens in terms of the shelf life of these reports. We are responding to the responsibilities that weve got. We have to look at the problem and we obviously have to be fully accountable for it. We must always go back and see what has been done through time. That is why we looked at the report. Who do you report to on Security Matters . It is the deputy secretary. Were you aware of this study . I became aware of it. I joined them in 2000 and. Okay, 2010. When you arrived then, how long was it before you became aware of this . I knew of it a little bit before then. I did not become aware of the contents for probably the first year that i was their. You knew about it by 2011 in the midyear. Did you take any action to inform the secretary that you have this cultural problem that needed to be addressed . I did not take any actions to inform the secretary. I did take actions to address actions. Did you fire anyone . No. Let me ask. Given the studies that i have referred to, the commission did this in 2002. The chief of security clearly shouldve been handed a copy of the studies. Do you not think . That would have been on his watch to know that we have an installation under the domain of responsibility. And we now have a study that talks about these problems. Does it make sense to be given a copy of it . Would you turn your microphone on, please . I would assume that those reports come when they came out, would be reported through the department contemporaneously. And the relevant person would have been the chief of security, wouldnt it have . The organization was different at that time. What i am saying is that i do not know who is the chief of security in 2002 or 2005. The same guy has been there for 20 years. The guy who is the chief of security now it has been the chief of security at the department of security for 20 years. All of these installations fall under his responsibility. My thinking is that if the report comes out and says that we have a flawed cultural security problem, but that should have been presented to the chief of security. No remedies were taken to the equipment and the other deficiencies in that system. Who did the chief of security report to . He reports to the secretary and the deputy secretary. Okay. Just to be clear, that person does not have authority over this. Why not . Because that is the nature of the problem. In other words, we need to make sure that it runs the straight through. So you are responsible for the line of authority . Was the secretary fired . No, sir. I recognize mr. Cooper. Thank you, mr. Chairman. I think we are talking about hhs . Yes. I think we are talking about those that have been there. I was interesting because in 2013, just a few days ago, he talked about staying in the article that he believes nuclear arms complex operated better while directly under the Energy DepartmentsDefense Program prior to the formation in 2000. I think that he means by nuclear agency, he means our agency. It is a Pretty Amazing charge from someone you praise and trust. It has been there a long time. We all rely on his viewpoint a lot. We were wondering if nsa should have jurisdiction here . Enough we have taken a step backward sends 2000. And it might be correct. It might up might not be officially supported by the top brass, but this is, you know, part of the organization that you respect and trust. This is a respected individual. Questioning the function. And, of course, the commission will be established to look into lots of issues anyway. This is a problem. Congressman, we have, all of us, fought long and hard exactly about what the best way to do security is going end of this episode. We will continue to do that and take advantage of the great wisdom of the three experts. We always encouraged the continuing question in attitude and not to be complacent about where we are. We will keep working as hard as began. Observe the chance to keep working at the problem. Ill dig in terms of if i deserve. And trying to address the problem. I feel thats my responsibility. You have hard time the of circumstances that might even lead to levels of state and responsibility. That dont mean to imply that. The problem could not recur bride changing the structure and that all the individuals accountable. Again, we will continue to tear everything we can turn the confidence of this committee. Maybe you could answer with the average card, protective force member makes and when you divide out, one pattern 75 going teach position under the how much taken pay, benefits of the votes actually getting into this amazing some. Penlight federal judges. Their pay like congressman i assure you, able be five months. We will get that to you, sir. Thank you. We dont have anymore questions. The one thing i want to point out, lest through a plant we should just abolish the in essaying a backstabbing everything doe. The foreign intelligence board said that the m bought the scientists added best. Highlighting problems that we have failed to correct, dysfunctional bureaucracy that has am proven it is incapable of performing. The thing and be take away from this is yet to be capable of reforming yourself. Were serious as a heart attack. Be expected to be remedied. We need to know specifically the youre willing to terminate people that at doing that job. The chief Security Officer might be idealist, but we look at serious reforms in the line responsibilities so that if and the help we dont ever have another instance like this, but you can show us so we can see exactly who is irresponsible and that they were dealt with in a prompt and appropriate manner. We not only except by wellcome working with you in this committee and exactly that dimension. We very much agree obviously, there are continued concerns we need to address. We complete the agree accountability is a critical part. However, we dont just have a people problem. We have a structural problem. We have a cultural problem and we need to fix that. Accountability, culture, cleared the lines of responsibility, authority to go with that and with your help hopefully we will get the place where we never do experienced this kind of episode again because it is something that is absolutely as we said from day one unacceptable. Thank you. Additional questions. Who will keep the record open for ten days. I asked you submit questions in writing and as the responses in writing. This hearing is adjourned. Thank you