Facebook. Com. book to the. Throughout the day we will post behind the scenes pictures on all these social media platforms and you can also watch exclusive videos on facebook life. Now, here are authors Jane Alexander and miriam horn talking about conservation. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible] [inaudible] with Jane Alexander and miriam horn. Miriam horn has long been passionate about the environment. Today she works with the Environmental Defense fund and she started her career at the us board services. She took a detour through journalism writing for the new york times, smithsonian, us news and world report as we sit here on the edge of an election which is likely to mean much for our environment i went to note her very first book, which is called rebels and white gloves, follow the life story of that pioneering 1969 graduating class which included a young and determined hillary rodham. For her second book, miriam turned her attention to the environment coauthoring earth, the sequel which looks at policy changes that could allow businesses to halt Climate Change and with Publishers Weekly called, an optimistic view. Not an easy complement when writing about the environment. Marian brings a similarly positive outlook to the Mississippi River and delta with her new book, rancher, farmer fisherman. It received a starred review. This book is on an venture, just in the land and water, but among the people who both depend on and shape the future of our countrys major artery. Miriams ready with a new and hopeful view of what conservationists and what it might be. Jane alexander has done so much in her life that her Wikipedia Page alone leaves me breathless. You may recognize her from her many starring roles in film and theater, among them the rate white hope for which she won a tony and Academy Award nomination and also received awards for her role in kramer versus kramer, all the president s men. She has won eight emmys including one for plane eleanor roosevelt, which she aged from the age of 18 years old, 260. She also chairs the National Endowment for the arts under president bill clinton. During a challenging time, when arts were heavily under attack, not only that, she has been on the boards of the Wildlife Conservation society and National Audubon society, among others. So, not only as a jane a celebrated actor and committed environmentalist, shes a graceful and compelling writer, also. Her book, wild places, adventurous tales on planet earth jane writes eloquently of her passion for the natural world, an abiding love that has carried her to the most mobile parts of our planet where she has seen the most extraordinary of the species that we share this global with. Her writing about our earth ecosystem is among the most rich that i have read. When i was given this honor, emailed both of the authors and said would you please read a little bit of your book for our audience and they both said, sure. I thought well, im a really im a very opinionated reader and i will be able to help guide them and pick up pick out sections, but i think you could open either of these books to any page, like you can see all of my writing send notes and stars everywhere and anything you would read on any clip would be wealth wise and beautiful. , they have chosen since they will read for you and i think÷÷÷ that miriam will go first and then jane will follow. Thank you, julie. [applause]. Think all of you for being here. It is so much fun to be on this panel with jane whose book i adore and with julie whose writing amazing book about jellyfish that i know i will adore. I decided to read my my book is structured as a tripped on the Mississippi River and profiles five people on the way and i decided to read from the first chapter, which is about a montana rancher, since im in ranch country here. The main protagonists in this chapter is a guy named, of course, dusty, but he works one of the extraordinary thing dusty has done is pulled together a coalition of people who are terribly unlikely. They range from eight guy youd call a liberal beatnik who is in the peace corps to a guy who flew several tours and drop bombs in vietnam and dusty himself, most of the people are politically conservative and one of the ranchers dusty works with is also republican, brings those deep conservative values to the way he thinks about his land. He actually ran to the only ranch in montana that borders on the Bob Marshall Wilderness area, 20000 acres and probably the most beautiful ranch ive ever seen. It was homesteaded by his grandfather in 1882. Both his grandfather and his father didnt ever believe in modern conveniences, so even when electricity and water came in they did not have it picked the Denver Foundation by hand. They used went carl was young they did all that and this begins with him, so this is an incredibly hard existence that they lived in, so im starting with talking about his father, john. John drapeau kept his family afloat by trapping leader, maintain muskrat for the European Market and paying cash for land others abandon, never more than 25 cents an acre. He also trapped a lot of grizzlies. He got to realize times were different back then, says carl. Of those guys were trying to scrabble out a living on a 5dollar steer. They had to run every blade of grass they could just to keep their families going and if a bear killed a family milk cow, that was it. Then, the federal government dumped them yellowstone garbage bears up here along the front. Those bears didnt have any idea how to make a living so they went to killing livestock. Everyone come to my dad saying, would you trap those bears . He bought big leg cold traps made for elephants. I still have his new number six, the largest trap ever may. They had grizzly hunting season than in the fall, but the bears were killing cattle in the spring when they were coming out of hibernation. It was illegal to trap them in the spring, so my dad would dump them into a coolly. He killed his last beer in 1959, a big old rogue grizzly. The federal trappers had had been after that bear for three years. That bear killed what are and my dad ran him down in a snowstorm and killed him. By then, there were almost did no grizzlies left. Of the 50000 from the great plains of 1800s, fewer than a thousand remained, just 2 of their original range. In 1975, they were listed as a threatened species. My dad died in 1986, at ainge and 90, ranching to the very end , but before he died one of the last things he said to me was that he felt he had a big part of why the grizzly bear had declined and that was one of the biggest regrets of his life. He wanted me to promise him that the big bear would always have a home on this ranch. So, carl honor that heritage by becoming part of this unlikely posse that first brought back in an effort to drill for oil and gas in Bob Marshall Wilderness and then protected several hundred thousand acres of these magnificent epic private ranches in conservation easements including karls ranch karel nel sees grizzlies all the time. In early 2003, when air survey over his land spotted 15 adults and in 2014, he had half a dozen that would tip the scale at a thousand pounds. Remarkably, the bears dont touch his cattle. That 1959 depredation was the last on his land. Bears were killing calves because this country was pretty well used up. First, by the native americans. When you have a thousand head of horses in one camp is not a paradise. Then, the white man came along and read it harder still. But, there is not a carnivore. And 90 plus of their diet is grazing. If you lead grass to them, run your cattle like this so they can get a free meal they will not spend the energy to kill a calf. They would much sooner munch on grass, roots and berries. Like dustys grizzlies, he also has grizzlies on his ranch. In 2001, carl described to National Geographic how he watched a bear picking up the remains of a cow carcass and slamming it down on the ground like a professional wrestler. Couldnt figure out until i saw he was breaking bones to get the marrow. He pulls out pictures of a grizzly sow and her three cups eating grain sidebyside with young calves. These were taken with a digital cell phone. Thats in the corral. This old girl here raised a set of three cups every two years. Are used to wean the that labor day and feed them with self feeders. She got to where she knew exactly when labor day was and her and her cubs would come across the meadow and move right in and eat with the cows. When pellets would fall down into the cracks, the mom of there would turn the feeders over to shake them loose. She would stay there until i shipped them in december. As soon as the cavs were gone she would head up and hibernate. With these conservation easements i have done what my dad asked. Those big bears will always have a home here. [applause]. Thank you, miriam. Im very happy as well to be here and i could have easily adopted this book that miriam rhodes. We are really very much in sync with with what we have written, but shes writing more about ranching the land and working land and im writing more about wildlife and my trip with field biologists around the globe for the past 35, 40 years. Personally, im very passionate herder, but as an actress i was lucky to go to some exotic locations and at that sort of that began my interaction with field biologists. So, this story im going to tell you right now has to do with conservation and community because every field biologists i had been with now, whatever the species is that they are studying or the habitat they want to protect is all about Community Involvement. You know this right here, if you want to protect something down here in austin, or in texas, you need to involve all kinds of partnerships and math in miriams book as well. This one is about a woman lay named lisa who grew up in brooklyn as an asthmatic kid who was allergic to all kinds of her and ended up protecting a very rare mammal. So, this is about our trip to new guinea a few years ago. In a cloud forest everything is wet, the footing was slippery in the bud smothered my hiking boots, but the riot of ferns and mosses, orchids lacing the tree branches was sumptuous. The field camp was above a little stream, a tarp covered tube was our meal shack where we dined on crackers, soup, rice and greens on placemats of palm leaves. The 10 png fellows did everything with artistic player. They put up individual tents for us and mast arbitrating with a bower of ferns and flowers as if for a disney presents princess. I was glad it was so attractive on the outside because inside the trench was so slippery it took infinite skill to squat. 10000 feet and 40 degrees you dont get the variety of night sounds you do it tropical elevation, but it dawned the song of honey eaters rang out along with cicadas. The thickness of vegetation in the height at which tree kangaroos live made the exact location where they were difficult to pinpoint. The ground was spongy with moss and saturated earth while tree roots crisscrossed the forest for. I had to take care to trip as we made our way through the dense foliage of tree trunks, saplings and fall ferns. One of the guys spotted trish, the tree kangaroo. It took several minutes to find her with my binoculars above 40 feet on a large branch of a tree. Her golden brown tail hung down like a thick vine while her body was perfectly camouflaged in a sunlit leaves where she was munching on a spree of orchids. Not far away was her joey, have her size, never before seen by lisette. He was out of the pouch by 10 months old, so she guessed he was about a year and still going to his mom to nurse. They become independent at 18 months. There are 15 sub species of tree kangaroos, all evolved along the terrestrial kangaroos and wallabies from an ancient arboreal opossum and dryer australia that becomes bigger and stayed on the ground while in new guinea they involved into distinct sub species in remote nations. Every year the battery needs to be changed in the radio collar and trish was due. Her radio collar these past four years had taught lisa and her staff a great deal about tree kangaroos, their range, their courtship, what they eat and the threats to their survival. The area underneath the branch was cleared of anything that might hurt the animals on impact. A young man of 15 elected to climb the tree to induce her to jump your key started up the trunks barefoot like a whole line native going for coconuts, but this tree was so big he could not get his arms around it and his prize was 40 feet up. Trish climbed higher, her little joey following is the boy can closer. Every time she moved up, so did he. We watched in admiration as the boy put hand over hand, foot over foot as assuredly as spiderman and reach the branch below where she finally stopped, 60 feet above us. He noisily beat the trunk and trish moved to the end, arching the tip of her weight while her joey sought to join her. He must have thought better of it because he suddenly jumped, flying through the air for the first time with the true grace of a little round ball of her. He landed on the soft forest floor unharmed and the men ran to grab him. Trish made to fight herself within minutes, 20 pounds of her landing without a scratch. One man grabbed her by the trail, others held her by her neck at her leg. Gabriel removed her old collar and replaced it with a new one. She was relatively calm, having been through this three times before and she was perfectly beautiful. Her plush tawny orange for circled the white belly and her big eyes gazed up as she suffered the indignity of being held upright in a slave position. Her long black nails curled at the end with sharp points, good grip for climbing. Her joey was immediately christened by the new gideons in honor of our collie, george. He was about the size of a paddington bear. The hawaiian peninsula is the only area of the world where the tree kangaroo live in the making one of the more endangered mammals on earth. They are secretive and shy living high in the canopy were mating is a delicate endeavor. A large arboreal pipeline has a fondness for tree kangaroo and they are prized to meet for the native people as well. Hunting and loss of habitat are the main threat to the cc. But, lisa has been educating the villagers sense 1996 about this rare creature in their midst, what began as a Research Project evolved into an alliance of local people, scientists and research institutions. There are 45 villages and more than 10000 people in the region of the one . The clan owns all the land which is true of most of new guinea. They took charge of their own future by creating pngs purse conservation area, formally recognized by the government in 2009, giving the area of the highest protection under the law it to mean that there will be no extraction of resources including mining and logging. The villagers are still able to hunt the kangaroos sustainably in a certain places, but they are off limits and 180,000 acres of protected area. So far, the villages are honoring the rules. The tree kangaroo is a source of pride to them and to their children who learn about the animal in school. The staff of the Tree Kangaroo Conservation Program in the png office are all native men and women, which the program aids in further education. Gabriel, a native, completed his phd at Cook University in australia, and is now a teacher of biology in his homeland in new guinea, specializing in native flora and fauna. The tree kangaroo is his signature cc. [applause]. Cutback cutback. I guess im going to ask if you questions and then i will leave time for questions in the audience. When you get ready there is a microphone in the middle. I will let you know when to lineup, but for my first question given the title of the session, the key to conservation and james wan career onstage i thought we might be a will to a prop. The keys to conservation. We know that the key to conservation is not something this simple. Its much more complicated, so im wonder if each of you will say what the key to conservation actually looks like and how has it changed during your years of studying conservation . Yes, because i would like to followup on what i said before i read this piece about the tree kangaroo, which is today, i watched Research Scientists and field biologists go from pure side in the field study and animal or habitat, from pure science they have gone to protecting the species, which all of them are doing today in one way or another, maybe not the ones right out of graduate school, but certainly the ones that have spent time in the field and know what species they want to make their lifes work. They understand that its all about community. They no longer just drop in, tell them that they have to protect this kangaroo in the area where they find it and it leads. No, its about education for the community. Its about help with the community. Its about pride in the species that is rare and in their community and boy, do they lock onto that. I mean, imagine if you had a very rare species in a remote area like p g. You dont have access to knowing what other people have her have not in areas even in your own country because its so steve in new guinea and thats why there are a thousand languages still. They are in very remote areas. So, this is true wherever you are and im going to let miriam talk also about this because i think we are in sync with this. Its happening everywhere work you need partnerships and you need buyin with everyone. When i think this is where you guys come in because the scientists and organizations that support them can to do this alone anymore. Its too big a job and its to all of the globe, so i would ask each of you to look into becoming a member of an organization that protects and animal or habitat, supporting that organization and signing the petitions that they send out to you. Those petitions really make a difference. Thank you. [applause]. So, i would really echo what jane said. One of the things that everyone in my book has in common is that they see human beings as a species that is a species among species with a right to live, but to be good citizens of the ecologies that they live within and so figuring out how to address these landscape, all of the landscape in my book are working landscape. Human beings are raising food on them or in one case transporting goods across Mississippi River, but in every case the solution, the durable solution