Government that theyre unfamiliar with and, you know, i think its great that the high number of latino members of your force that you have. How do you make sure that theyre really truly grounded and what it is that these people may be trying to or want to communicate but maybe afraid to communicate to operate under the corridor of law. Yes, we are familiar with the various communities in mexico. At the individual agent level, i cannot speak to that. What i can say is that they are trained to be consistent in terms of how we process people and to treat people with dignity and respect. That is a core principle of cdp. I cant speak to the individual offices of assessment. But i can speak to what we ask them to do. This question is for mr. Jones. And it kind of follows up on the direction in which commissioner yaki has been hinting. But it would appear that the custom and border officers are critical players in this immigration process. And the screening and the selection and the training of those individuals would be equally as important. Id like for you to talk to us please, mr. Jones about the selection, the training, of your officers and the supervision that would go along with that. And then id ask you to detate any e detail any problems that have arisen arisen, the discipline actions that have been taken or could be taken in connection with problems that arise. And then after you answer that i might have another follow up. But go ahead, please. Thank you, vice chair the Selection Process is we advertise for Border Patrol agents, if you will, probably twice a year. We have a federal flaw that we have to have on board at any given time. I think the number is 21364 to protect a few. Is it a ratio . No, its just a flat number by congressman dated that we have a specific number of Border Patrol agents on board at any always. So our turnover is about tweeb between 2 1 2, 3 at any given year. The Selection Process is rigorous. There are structural interviews physical examinations for offices before theyre hired. They have to successfully complete before their e they are assigned to the field. Once theyre assigned to the field, theyre put into a Field Training program for the next two years and the Field Training supervisors are assigned to train them. So it takes over 2 spsz 1 2 years to be considered fully trained to be a Border Patrol agent. How many of your agents are fully trained . Presently, everyone is fully trained, except those who are either in the academy or are still in the Field Training program. So that number would be in the low hundreds at any given time, because of the attrition rate and in the back field. So that number would be low. It would be something we could find, but its not something that we actively track. The next part of your question dealt with performance or conduct issues. I would say that we have the same or similar rate of misconduct as youd find in the general population or general work force. We have a standard of conduct that we apply. We have in our office of internal affairs is assigned along with the office of the i. G. To investigate serious allegations of misconduct, inappropriate behavior. And, in all instances, all allegations are investigated. If they are proven, then corrective action is taken. Thank you. Mr. Landy what determines detention . You mean, who is it that decides no what factors . That you hold a person in detention . Well, i mentioned the priorities that are established when i. C. E. Office was the officers in the interior of the country. They make initial decisions regarding who to am remend based on those priorities. Most i. C. E. Apprehensions within the interior of the program. I think im referring mostly to border crossings. Usually, Border Patrol. Sometimes cvp has poins of entry. And cvp puts them into or sends them to i. C. E. And puts them for i. C. E. To take custody of them. Typically, they are in expedite or removal proceedings by law. It means that detention is mandatory if theyre in expedite removal proceedings. If they are able to adjudicate their claims with an officer. But typically and there are always assessmenteds for humanitarian reasons particularly at the border is placed in detention. I dont have those numbers. Does anybody have those numbers . Would you have those numbers . Would your office or your agency have them . I. C. E. Might have those numbers. Can you secure those and send them to us in the 30 days . Sure. Typically if an adult were released, it would only have been because they were having a fear of persecution. Mr. Franklin jones im sorry, mr. Joans. No problem. Okay. Zero tolerance Sexual Assault policy have the same source of law . It is a restating in the commissioners policy. When you say private contractors for cvp. For detoengs. Okay. Cvp, we dont do detention, if you will. We only hold individuals for the amount of time necessary to process them and transport them to i. C. E. In extenuateing circumstances does anyone on the panel have an answer to that . I can take it. If youre referring to immigration detention facilities, thats right. The d. H. S. Regulations require that prea apply when a detention facility contract is either signed, renewed or modifiesed. That was modelled with d. O. J. Technically, stabd arded are not legally binding. Do you know which ones have not volunteered to take those . I mechxed that 95 of our population is covered. So right off the bat, and the Sexual Assault safeguards in 2011 are very comprehensive. And comparable to us. To the extent in which theyre trying to comply with d. H. S. Standards its not something were always aware of. I would say that would be more likely the case with some of our more larger contracts. I wouldnt site e cite that. Im personally not citing that as an assertion that particular i dont want to give you the impression that i think that thats happening in a particular number of cases. I dont know. I can tell you precisely how many facilities are adocumenting our detention standards. Also, with respect to county jails, theyre also governed by regulations. I dont know how many of those county jails have chosen to comply with that. Theres a detainee whos suffered an Sexual Assault in a facility to have a right to sue o private contractor . I couldnt speak to what legal rights they would have in that situation. Does anyone know . We just have a yes. Ive got a couple along this line. Sduring influx this summer, its my understanding that the city called counties to take as many of these children as they could. Are you aware of that . I dont think i understand the question. I was going to ask when you take the children and place them in foster care and things like that. Is not state or county foster care. Its funded. So theyre still in our custody and still in the o. R. Care provider network. Theyre run through nongovernmental organizations. Not through the state or county fostercare system. If a mother shows up with three or four children and say they have a relative in america and you are detaining the mother and the three or four children are the if the mother wants can the children be placed in determination . We dont see the families. My understanding is that typically that does not happen. Could it happen . Im not aware of it happening. But its possible. I have some more questions, but ill yield. Well come back. Mr. Landy along the lines of commissioner clandy involving questioning of contract facilities and specifically, forprofit. Reports that weve seen show that there are abuses as of 2014 and a number of cca facilities. And those are still under contract with dhs. Reports show that thats not terminating contracts with sufficient facilities. What does it take to determine a contract with an agency that is deficient in these areas of protection of rights . An ichlt c. E. Inspection for two years. I. C. E. Conducts annual inspections of ilgts facilities. In fact, we have several layers of oversight. I. C. E. Has withdrawn from deif he thinks facilities where it was troubled, regardless of whether or not it failed one or more inspections. I. C. E. Hant drawn from deif he thinks facilities whether it was drawn from individual or a serious incident that occur edred. Are there reports that are generated . Of the inspections . With respect to determinations . I dont know if any publicly available reports of when i. C. E. Is withdrawn from facility. But thats not necessarily because they failed two consecutive inspections. In fact, from my knowledge of those instances where it has occurred, more often than not, its because theyve failed consecutive inspections. Its because of concerns that i. C. E. Had. Theres different types of inspections that i said. The inspection is can you recollect theed by the office of detention oversight which is in the office of professional responsibility which is publicly available on our web site. The annual inspections are conducted, as far as i know, are not all publicly available. And if theyre foya, they are available in our foya reading room on our web site. So foya is the process you suggest we use . Oh to be sent to us publicly available now. Thats my understanding if the commissioner made a request for additional reports. Its quite possible that i should provide those. I think were going to request those, which i think contain a lot of information relevant to this investigation. Just a point of clarification your office did initially make a response ind kating that youre not going to take any further action . My hope is that you will take a closer look at these. Was that a yes . Let the record reflect that shes nodding yes . Yes. Commissioner, thank you, mr. Chairman. Thank you. Ms. Vin, id like to more clearly understand the nature of the treatment of the minors, both when brought into kugs day, during custody and after releesz. And, in particular, could you explain how it is assessments are made about what kinds of Educational Needs that these children may have and how those needs are being fulfilled and how you know will these things are taking place. We do our facilities are being run by social workers. Soically nations train staff and they do have the number of assessments that the children go through. We can share with you the various forms in conducting assessments. Yeah, i think wed like that. And then we do have a number for various issues such as trafficking. For children with certain issues, like disabilities or if theyve been subject into trafficking or sexual abuse or a crime, we do do home studies before we release them and require services after their release so that the care for them continues afterwards. And then well be able to provide all of the forms that go with that. What else can i tell you about postrelease services. Obviously, the number of kits has gone up greatly. So were thinking about ways to improve and release the grades that children receive. If a child were not to be receiving the kind of services that he or she was deemed entitled to which they were entitled entitled, is there the ability that someone miekt have to complain about that . Or whats the procedure that one would pursue if one were not receiving the services to which he or she was entitled . Yes, we have a number of levels where were able to go in and check to see whats happening with the facilities. We also have contracted care staff that check on the facilities, as well as the facilities staff and then also site visits and monitoring to follow up on whats happening with the that silties. Theres a number of levels to do what they have to do. There are possibly closing facilities if whats happening is happening on a number of different ways for reporting the sexual abuse. Were developing a new 800 number thats easy for the children to access without anyone knowing that theyre doing the call. Also many of the children also have individual attorneys. We also have Legal Service providers that go into the facilities regularly. So there are a lot of people who are providing here and having an eye on whats happening with the children in addition to just the facility staff. I recognize that there are not these children and as other detainees are not sbieted to the assistance of counsel, which is a fact that i understand that that is the case is there any kind of group of trained add voe cats that provide a series of core supports and postdetained detainee protection for the protection . Yes. We have we have a number of programs in the works right now. So we do have the know your rights presentations. We have a contractor thats going to know your rights presentation. We also have a video that also adds to the information that children receive. We recently started a grant in specific states to provide direct service to the children. I think by this summer we should have a request for proposals out fur Legal Service providers to come in and apply to provide legal representation to the children. Do any of you have any drekt impact on the judges who make the ultimate determinations about the asylum and other topics . Ill defer to i mean, our role is the care of the children. I mean include the Legal Services as part of that. But we dont have any effect on the Immigration Judges or hearings. The immigration within the department of justice, executive aufgs of immigration. Umhmm. Is there any training that they received at your behest or do you provide them with any kind of overview investigation . About the nature of the phenomenon that were experiencing here . Im actually not sure of what provision there is beyond what would typically be happening in the course of adjudications where i. C. E. Attorneys are regularly interacting with Immigration Judges. But thats something id be happy to acquire about. We have 15 minutes left and this is the order on the questions. To what extent do we require, as a matter of law in contract,that the protections that someone would be affording in a federal facility are afforded at a private facility, as well. And i mean by that not just prea. I mean by that training. I mean by that access to records for information that apply to federal, federal agencies. What is it that we require as a part of our contract right now to ensure that people who we send to these private forprofit institutions, are afforded at least the same kinds of rights and protections as they would if they were housed in a federal facility. So i dont want to try to skirt the question. But i will say as a header to what his response might e might be that there isnt a difference in the type of standards that apply. He already responded to you about the legal qualifications. But i. C. E. Applies their standards across the board. Right. So our federal detention standards are established. Federal government requirements. All of our private contractor facilities are here to the most recent, most rigorous level of the detention standards, which i mentioned. And those standards are measured across the board. But we do consider that federal policy. And we consider that agency policy, which is applied to our private contractor facilities through contractual modifications. And that has occurred in all instances. So everybody has to abide by prea and other humanitarian laws that govern treatment of prisoners or detainees if they were in federal versus a private. Right. Well with respect to the private contractor facilities, all of them are governed by our most recent detention credibility eres. Not yet. All of them are not yet governed contractually by prea. Which is the same for the department of justice, private contractor facilities, as well. And, as i mentioned, d. H. S. Prea regulations are more rigorous there that respect in toerms of requiring quicker application of prea. Theres also a commitment that d. H. S. Has made in the preamble of the prea regulations that prea regulations will be applicable or that we will endeavor to make prea regulations applicable at all of our dedicated facilities which includes our private contractor facilities within 18 months of the effective date. Kp you send to us a list of which facilities do or do not have prea as paut o of their contract . Yes. Could you turn your mic on . Yes. There you go. Prosesds of phasing in. These brea rules with facilities that are under contract. And im assuming the basic problem is these facilities are comp sated for their responsibleties. Snen e then you have to increase the compensation. I assume its free to itch leapt the new standards or maybe even do it entirely if they think its apreep rat even before the contract is rene gauched, such that there may be facilities implemented partially or fully, the new standards, even if that here not guilty yet renegotiated contracts. Is that right . Thats correct. And, in fact we have been told by our larger and private Contractor Companies in terms of those that operate more of our facilities, that they had been undergoing and had been understood going to implement prea requirements in advance of the contractual modifications. But its not guilty legally contractually binding until its incorporated in the contract. And youre right, we might have to air dress requests for additional compensation you should the contracts, if it had prea requiring the facility to incur addition nag cost. Are you waiting until theyre up for negotiation . Its required by law if the contracts are rene gauche yated or modified. And, beyond that, we are not required under the regulations to seek at additional facilities. So youre working on it, in other words . Yes. Thank you x mr. Chairman. Mr. Landy, how are you . [ laughter ] i want to get back to the ogbt question. When we were talking about seg regated housing the los angeles facility, i think that was for transsexuals. Is that correct . Yes. Well, for gay, bisexual and transgender individuals. Ive been in i have visited many prisons. Ive not be e been in many. I mean, ive been in them. How is your seg reregated house e housing set up for l. G. B. T. People . We dont consider that seg regated housing. There is what is referred to and most facilities are segregation manening eagement unit which is often referred to as solitary confinement in which they are housed in individual cells. The housing unit im referring to is not that. It has Free Movement within the housing unit opportunities to comingle indoors and Outdoor Recreation among that group. Its just that they are separate from the rest of the population in order to ensure their own protection. And, again, with respected to people transferred into that housing unit, it is voluntary. Its more like a prison as opposed to a county jail . Its the same requirements that apply to this housing unit